• Kumabear@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Pretty positive this is going to end up being a DNS level block that will be as simple as setting a dns server outside of the UK to bypass.

    Because anything else would create an unbelievable amount of administrative overhead.

    Also imagine the spike in identity theft this is going to cause.

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    9 months ago

    Headlines next year: “VPN subscriptions in the UK up 42069% for some reason”

  • Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 months ago

    Discounting VPNs for a moment…

    What if one person made an account with ID and then the entirety of the country just happened to know the login?

    Usr: admin Pass: admin

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    its always nice that they want your official id associated with your porn. i just want to see what happens when that database gets hacked.

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    9 months ago

    I mean, the government could tackle homelessness, or end child hunger, many appropriate subjects. But instead they want to regulate jerk-off material. Sad.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Porn perusers will soon have to prove their age by uploading an identity document like a passport, registering a credit card, presenting their face to AI-powered scanning technology, or using a handful of other methods outlined in draft guidance from the regime’s regulator, Ofcom.

    Although initially missing from the U.K.’s next attempt at internet regulation, pressure from children’s charities, age verification providers and vocal parliamentarians persuaded the government to revamp the defunct regime through the Online Safety Act.

    Many videos depict graphic and degrading abuse of women, sickening acts of rape and incest, and many underage participants,” Tory MP Miriam Cates, a strong advocate for the legislation, told the House of Commons in September.

    Research indicates younger kids who stumble across porn accidentally can find it shocking and disturbing — although the majority of young people surveyed in a 2020 British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) report said this didn’t impact them in the long term.

    But the issue is complicated: the BBFC report found that older teens said they watched porn for educational purposes, due to a lack of information about sex in schools, or for gratification, while half of the LGBTQ+ respondents said it had helped them understand and explore their sexual identity.

    “The squeamishness associated with pornography has made it nearly impossible to have a mature discussion about the technical feasibility, trade-offs, and effectiveness of age verification mandates,” says Matthew Lesh, director of public policy and communications at the free-market think tank.


    The original article contains 2,313 words, the summary contains 245 words. Saved 89%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      Although initially missing from the U.K.’s next attempt at internet regulation, pressure from children’s charities, age verification providers and vocal parliamentarians persuaded the government to revamp the defunct regime through the Online Safety Act.

      Ah, good ol’ “think of the children,” once again doing the heavy lifting for the morality police and state surveillance.

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        pressure from […] age verification providers

        I think this is the tell that it’s much stupider than any of that. It’s just another corrupt Tory handout to their mates.

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    This might be a big nitpick, but “Child Protection Groups”, vs “Privacy Warriors”, sounds sleazy.

    As positive connotations as possible on one side, vaguely negative on the other.

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        To conservatives, children don’t have rights. You protect them like you would protect property, by putting it under lock and key.

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          Yes, they see them as property to be used.

          But even in that stupid, dehumanizing framework it still ought to be one of the issues of “parents rights” they love so much. Your child’s privacy being violated is a violation of your property rights. YOU didn’t consent to that child’s privacy being compromised, and they are a thing that belongs to you and can only exist according to your beliefs and rules, so that was an attack on you.

          So the real truth is that to conservatives, there is no coherent ethical framework they can turn to to reliably make judgements. It is the politics of being a cruel and obstinate asshole.

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            I agree that their logic isn’t consistent, but in this case I would say their solution isn’t to improve the privacy of their childrens’ porn access, their solution is to lock down their childrens’ behaviour so they cannot ever see porn.

            The suggestion that online privacy when accessing porn is something that will affect their children would sound like an admission that you want to show their children porn. If you point out that their kids are going to find porn on their own because that’s just how the world works, they won’t investigate that. They’ll just fall back on their overdeveloped disgust reflex and attack you for it.

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    9 months ago

    I hope this encourages children to learn an important life skill that will help them in numerous ways: Piracy.

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        I was looking at porn by 11ish, so sure. Imagine making people wait until 18 or 21.

        Do you also have issue with them watching action movies with people dying?

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            I watched Apocalypto for a school paper at age 15 (from a list of options given to me), and honestly I think some softcore porn would have been better. Some rated R stuff is fine for a kid to watch, Apocalypto definitely wasn’t.

            Also that same year I researched and did presentations on Chinese history (was a prehistorical to maybe a couple hundred years ago timeline) and at least in my research I covered things like the foot tying thing (to make feet smaller) and that didn’t prepare me for the scene in Marco Polo (I think on Netflix) where that happened (and I didn’t finish the episode or continue the series because it’s just too fucked up).

            Porn can be fucked up, some porn is definitely NSFL, but there are a lot of things that are so much worse than the average porn site.

            I wish they actually tried to “protect the children” but the politicians are very clearly not.

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        One should be vastly more worried about people who when they think of children think of porn, or vice-versa.

        Normal people might think of children and think of playground safety or maybe how SUVs should be banned because they’re so much more dangerous for children on streets than normal cars.

        People whose top concern when it comes to “children” is “porn” are emotionally invested in a certain kind of association that normal people don’t usually have in their minds in such strong terms.

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        I think he just meant that children are the most likely to uhhh, find a way.

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        I watched porn as a teen. Look, maybe in America you’re all puritans or whatever, but I started looking at magazines when I was 13 and then later found online porn (and hell I was LATE to the game according to my classmates). This is a reality y’all have to come to terms with. Teens watch porn.

      • sylver_dragon@lemmy.world
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        I was beating my meat like a boxer with a speedbag to the Playboy magazines I found when I was 11. And that was well before the internet was available. Kids are gonna find something to whack/flick it to, get over it.

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          Remember those mail-order catalogues? Specifically the women’s underwear section. Horny teenagers are going to find something. And they have a vivid imagination.

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      It’s honestly stupid. They just go to less moderated sites, or if you’re lucky, learn how to use a VPN and bypass all this nonsense anyway.

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      It is life changing really. I don’t recall ever paying for digital content. I still go to the theatres for an exceptional movie but that’s it. It has made me learn more about computers, be a bit savvy in tech. I can’t count how many times that has helped me get through my job. It really is an important life skill

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    I’m in the US so I’ve always needed a passport to watch porn (or anything else) in Britain.

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    Porn perusers will soon have to prove their age by uploading an identity document like a passport, registering a credit card, […]

    Ah, mandatory account creation with linked credit card being the most widely available and likely easiest option?

    No wonder the porn sites aren’t fighting this too hard!

    (…or are they?)

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      9 months ago

      My guess is that some companies will greatly benefit from this regulation because they can somewhat monopolize the market. I also wouldn’t be surprised if those were the ones who lobbied for this.

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    In case anybody needs a reminder, the UK Government’s response to the Snowden Revelations that showed even more widespread surveillance of civil society in the UK than in the US was, unlike in the latter country, to pass laws that retroactivelly made the whole thing legal.

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    I’m really happy these prudes have nothing to do with the EU anymore.

    Ps not talking about the general British citizen who are suffering from this but their conservative leadership that used to have a voice in our EU legislation and no longer do.

    It’s like the Victorian age is coming back there.