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    What could be wrong with camps to just concentrate these folks into a single area? That just makes it easier to implement a final solution once it has been found. We can let them earn gold stars to identify outstanding individuals. I think this would be a great experiment. Can you not see?

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      We also need to build large rooms with no windows and single entry/exit points for these folks to take showers

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      The problem is getting everyone there, maybe railroads would work but Biden likes those so they’re out!

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      That shit started under Obama tho…

      Him and Biden literally built cages for migrant children, that was a real thing.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/

      trump didn’t get rid of them, neither did Biden.

      So if your line in the sand was camps…

      America crossed that line a long fucking time ago. Hell, WW2 we did it based on ethnicity even if they were a US citizen.

      Everyone should be pissed off at camps like this. But if you’re pissed it might happen, why are you already ignoring it happening?

      Fight to stop it from happening now.

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        This take is a mile wide and an inch deep.

        Yes sometimes migrants and asylum seekers travel with their children, or they just send their children alone, and so we can’t just detain those families and unaccompanied kids into the same place they put all the adults, right?

        Obama didn’t “start this,” it has always been the case.

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          Were you making this same argument when it came out that Trump was keeping kids in cages? I don’t understand how people are so quick to flip their viewpoints when it’s “their guy” being criticized.

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        Respectfully, it feels like you have something on your mind and you used my post as a ramp to launch into your spiel. I haven’t been silent. I wasn’t aware when they started under Obama. I don’t know enough to speak on that subject. But I became aware when they permanently destroyed families, tracked girls’ menstruation, and overcrowded then with little to no resources. Perhaps they were created with the intent of humane treatment as a temporary measure to address immigration applicants who would otherwise be homeless and vulnerable, but I don’t know that either.

        What I can observe is how the camps were used by conservatives and draw parallels to camps used similarly by the Nazis (and while the parallel isn’t quite the same, I acknowledge also by the US against Japanese citizens).

        And it’s really weird that you address me like this is the first I’ve spoken out about this. Unless you tie me back to my Reddit history (which I’m certain would be difficult since I changed names) you couldn’t possibly know what I’ve said or not. But for the record I’ve vocally opposed inhumane treatment of immigrants for years.

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    “You’re talking about officers in tactical gear going into communities, being videotaped in the streets, putting kids in car seats, carrying baby formula. Then what do you do with those families?” said Jason Houser, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s chief of staff from January 2022 until March 2023. “Are you going to go into neighborhoods in Philly, New York, Baltimore and start tugging people out of communities? That’s what they want. It puts law enforcement and the communities at risk.”

    People were infuriated by children being separated from their families and put in cages, but it was all happening “elsewhere,” so there was a disconnect. Militarized mass deportation will be very different. Trigger-happy feds targeting families and dragging them out of their homes en masse. Shootings, violence, and the sheer terror of it will all be happening in every community and not just at some distant border.

    Even some of the “cruelty is the point” crowd are going to have misgivings when they see this policy in action.

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          Dems: If we speed up the trolley people will suffer for less time while it’s running them over! They won’t have to agonize as long while the trolley approaches to snuff out their life! Progress!

          GOP: Surely more people on the track means more profit! Can we start stacking them up to fit more?

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      I just don’t see this happening at all. Scouring neighborhoods to find illegal immigrants like this sounds horribly inefficient and dangerous (not to mention awkward and shameful for the people who have to do it?) Even building a giant wall across the border sounds more realistic than this.

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      People were infuriated by children being separated from their families and put in cages,

      They were?

      Who’s organizing the massive caravan on track to hit the US Border, just in time for the Election?

      -Pat Robertson

      [Jesus] did live in Egypt for three and a half years. But it was not illegal. If He had broken the law, then He would have been sinful and He would not have been our Messiah.

      -Paula White

      Let me know if you need more quotes from prominent Christian leaders endorsing children in cages.

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    And he has the Christian vote. Multiple Christian leaders have stated that it is the will of God for him to be president and you can not be a good Christian and not vote for him.

    Once again we will see the churches be an active helper in the process of oppression and democide.

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      Pretty much forever.

      Obama built literal cages for children.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/

      But I’m sure GW was doing something similar, and wouldn’t be surprised if Bill Clinton did too.

      Lately people want to act like if Trump does something, we can’t be mad at anyone else who’s done it, however we still have to be mad at trump.

      Somehow saying everyone needs held to standards isn’t popular with either party now.

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        Obama built detention space for families and so did every other administration.

        Trump started a specific policy if taking babies and children away from their families and housing them separately on purpose. What a moron to try and “both sides” this one.

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          Not quite. Separating children from families started under Obama, after the courts ruled that family detention centers were illegal.

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          They were talking about camps…

          Camps aren’t a new trump thing that may happen if he gets a second term.

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              Did Ellis Island lock them in literal cages indefinitely?

              We’ve don’t that too, during WW2 to Asians, that still doesn’t mean we should accept bad shit because at some point it was or may be worse

              That’s the whole point of what I’m saying…

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                Nah you were trying to both sides standard practices, blaming Obama for some reason, and you are falsely conflating practices nobody really has a problem with with Trump’s policy of wanton family separation.

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                  No, someone asked about camps…

                  I’m sorry I can’t explain this in a way you can understand, but I dont think repeating it again will help, have a good life tho.