Avast, the cybersecurity software company, is facing a $16.5 million fine after it was caught storing and selling customer information without their consent. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced the fine on Thursday and said that it’s banning Avast from selling user data for advertising purposes.

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    8 months ago

    that is one of two reasons why I stopped using their software.

    Too many scare-ware screens and too much bloatware that you have to be mindful about not installing.

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    8 months ago

    I wonder what other uses there are to sell data that is not for advertising? My second thought goes to what is in place to stop a middleman from saying that they would not sell information for advertising purposes, but selling the data for “quality control of data acquisition” purposes. If you are getting a service for free, you are the product.

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      8 months ago

      Political campaigns? A political candidate may want to know his opponent’s supporters and may think he can do a more targeted wooing. 1 may say it’s advertising too.

      Also, he can send bots to the political discussions that folks participate in. The bots can start nasty political arguments.

      A greedy religious figure may want to encourage more to join his religion. More members, more cash.

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    8 months ago

    If the software is free, but not open source, it’s harvesting your data. How else do you think these companies stay in business?

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      8 months ago

      I dislike this sentiment. Just because something is FOSS or open source, doesn’t mean it’s not harvesting your data or doing something nefarious.

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        kinda wrong sentiment to get from the statement. statement is only saying if

        if free and NOT open source > data harvest

        it doesn’t necessarily imply that

        if free and open source > doesnt data harvest

        at all. its just you have the ability to find out via code of they do or not. thats more or less in the boat of logical paradoxes you can make.

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        A good example would be Yuzu (the Switch emulator), it was open source and collected so much telemetry that Nintendo might go after their users.

        This might be fear tactic but it shows you that you aren’t safe

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          I don’t know about Yuzu’s data collection but they were destroyed because they existed.

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      8 months ago

      So companies like Proton and BitWarden are harvesting your data with their free tiers?

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        I haven’t looked into Proton, but BitWarden is open source both server side and client side.

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        Yeah I love it when people say “if you don’t pay you are the product” as if paying for youtube premium, google one, reddit premium or spotify will stop them from harvesting your data haha that’s how naive we were back when we thought data was collected only for ads.

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      8 months ago

      Free my ass! Avast charges money for that service. Hell they make you subscribe to use any service outside basic virus scan. So customers paid to have their data stolen and sold.

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    8 months ago

    this, i prefer the service based on Free and Open Source Software,

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    8 months ago

    This is fucking garbage.

    When a company gets caught with their hand in the cook jar, it’s not a punishment to put one of the cookies back.

    Fines should be ten TIMES what the company made from their misbehaviour, not ten percent.

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    8 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Avast, the cybersecurity software company, is facing a $16.5 million fine after it was caught storing and selling customer information without their consent.

    The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced the fine on Thursday and said that it’s banning Avast from selling user data for advertising purposes.

    From at least 2014 to 2020, Avast harvested user web browsing information through its antivirus software and browser extension, according to the FTC’s complaint.

    “We are committed to our mission of protecting and empowering people’s digital lives,” Avast spokesperson Jess Monney said in a statement to The Verge.

    “While we disagree with the FTC’s allegations and characterization of the facts, we are pleased to resolve this matter and look forward to continuing to serve our millions of customers around the world.”

    In January, the FTC reached a settlement with Outlogic (formerly X-Mode Social) that prevents the data broker from selling information that can be used to track users’ locations.


    The original article contains 398 words, the summary contains 155 words. Saved 61%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      “While we disagree with the FTC’s allegations and characterization of the facts, we are pleased to resolve this matter and look forward to continuing to serve our millions of customers around the world.”…translation, we regret being caught but look forward to the opportunity of exploring alternate ways to exploiting consumers for profit.

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    8 months ago

    who the f*ck uses Avast in 2024? I get it you use Windows for reasons but anti virus software? really?

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    8 months ago

    Can’t believe a company with a notorious history of spying on users is at it again for the 234th time!

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    8 months ago

    Jesus Christ.

    Remember when Google’s Motto was “Don’t be Evil” It was supposed to be a jab at Microsoft, but it feels like every year tech companies find news ways to just be fucking evil.

    PS. Google kind of fails to live up to that motto too, I don’t even know if it’s still an official motto.

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      8 months ago

      Google execs knew this motto will just get in the way of maximizing profits for shareholders, so they dropped it a few years ago.

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      8 months ago

      Kind of? They would happily sell your mother heroine and auction off her house. They fail at not being evil like Antarctica fails at being hospitable to palm trees.

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        No, they didn’t. Alphabet was created as a parent company in 2015 and uses the similarly vague “Do the right thing” in their code of conduct. Google itself still has “Don’t be evil” in their code of conduct, unchanged. Google needed Alphabet to not be Google (or they’d get fined to hell) so having everything identical wouldn’t have been a smart idea.

        That this easily Google-able myth is so pervasive is a wonderful microcosm about online gullibility and laziness.

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      8 months ago

      I’m all for crapping on large publicly traded companies but lumping Google in with companies that sell your data isn’t honest. Google does not and never has sold user data. They sure as hell use your data for their own ad network but they do not sell that data wholesale. Meta and other data brokers sell your data and this Avast company sells your data through a product they claimed stopped tracking. I’m not pro-Google but to compare their business model (which is very transparent about how it handles your data and how it’s never sold) to Avast’s business model (which is to completely lie to the end user while literally selling everything that user does) is not an honest comparison.

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    8 months ago

    Five years ago, I posted on Reddit about how Avast had installed a browser without my consent and set it as default while I was out of town and away from my computer. That post has had comments added to it several times a year ever since, meaning that they’re still trying that nonsense. They stole my data without my consent by importing all of my browser data, and now it’s come out that they blatantly sold it without my consent as well.

    I said it then, and I say it now: If you install something without my knowledge or consent, you’re a virus, plain and simple.