A pro-Palestine Jewish activist group has had its bank account frozen in Germany for the second time in seven years, after the bank requested a full list of its members’ details in what experts believe is a breach of German law. The group suspects the move was triggered by its involvement in a forthcoming pro-Palestine conference that has attracted intense scorn from the German mainstream.
“Germany” = a German bank
“seizing money” = temporarily frozen bank account until a legal dispute is settled“seizing money” = temporarily frozen bank account until a legal dispute is settled
I didn’t find this term in the text (ctrl+f). Why do you have it in quotes?
Apart from that nowadays if a bank freezes a person’s account, it’s really hard to live/survive in many places in this world and Germany is one of them. Unless you use crypto, and not everybody does.
“Germany” = a German bank
Banks often freeze accounts in order to follow governmental policies, often of protesters. Meaning, one way or another this move is backed by the government.
seizing money" = temporarily frozen bank account until a legal dispute is settled
I didn’t find this term in the text (ctrl+f). Why do you have it in quotes?
It’s right there in the headline
It’s right there in the headline
Oh the title. I read the article after a sneak-pick at the comment section and yours made me wonder to the point I did the ctr+f thingy.
Well, the title has a quite different quote and that’s what makes all the difference due to the historic reference. I think if you don’t like the title, you should hate the article because of what it is describing in relation to what is happening in Germany to Jewish people, and not about how this
articletitle is written.Do you deny that Jewish people suffer again on German ground, due to German policies using the argument of defending zionism?
Do you deny that zionism is historically related to fascism?[edit: oops I thought I was replying to @Tarte and not @rimjob_rainer. Well the questions are for both of you or anyone who cares to answer them. Just to not suffering is a spectrum, I am not claiming that Genocide is happening again in Germany, but people being targeted to the point of having their accounts frozen is a punitive measure to make people suffer]
I only wanted to point out that it’s written in the headline. I have no opinion for myself because the topic is too complex and convoluted and I don’t know enough to take part in the discussion. I don’t deny anything you’ve written but I also can’t confirm.
“The biggest insult to the memory of the holocaust is not denying it but using it as an excuse to justify the genocide of the Palestinian people.”
- Norman Finkelstein
Germany deciding who is a Jew again.
They really have been an embarrassment. They are trying to gain penance for their sins by enabling another genocide. I’m not even sure they know what they think they are doing.
More specifically deciding who is “the right kind of Jew”, same as in the old days.
I’m sure they have lists.
The bank demanded a list of the names of all of the members of Jüdische Stimme and their addresses, signed by members of the board by April 5 before adding that they were freezing the account immediately “as a precautionary measure.”
MBFC link for Novara.
MBFC link for Times of Israel
Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: Israel
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MODERATE FREEDOM
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
LOLWhen covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, they usually are objective and cover both sides fairly, such as this: IDF strikes fresh Hamas targets after 2nd rocket fired from Gaza Strip. However, during the conflict of 2023, they were less objective, focusing on the objectives of the Israeli military. In general, the Times of Israel is factual with a slight left-leaning editorial bias.
Lol why is mbfc taken seriously by anyone?
Love how they don’t go into any detail on why they have bad sources
I didn’t post the link because I have a problem with the source or the story. If I use MBFC to look up a source and the link isn’t in the thread, I’ll post it. If I use an archive link to read an article and it’s not in the thread, I’ll post it. Reading their MBFC page, there’s not really anything wrong with the source. Aside from having an extraordinarily terrible headline – probably written by an editor, not the author – there’s nothing really wrong with the article. I upvoted the post.
As much as people whine about whatever thing about MBFC they’re weirdly obsessed with, those pages contain a ton of useful information collected in one place. Do you have a good reason why we shouldn’t know what country they’re based in or press freedom issues in that country? Should we not know who owns the company, their publishing history, or how they’re funded? Are we better off not knowing that they haven’t failed a fact-check in the last 5 years? I don’t think it speaks to their credibility at all, but it was interesting to learn that they’re luxury communists and I don’t feel worse off for knowing that. Do you have some other way to get all that info in a single click?
It’s just that there doesn’t seem to be any actual logic or publicly published citations for why they mark some sources lower or higher.
For example in this case they say there’s been no failed fact checks in the last 5 years, yet they then mark them all the way down to Mixed simply due to sources with no examples of said bad sources other than they have a left bias
Failed Fact Checks
None in the Last 5 years
Overall, we rate Novara Media Far-Left Biased based on editorial positions that favor anti-capitalism and the promotion of Luxury Communism. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of poor sources and one-sided hyper-partisan perspectives. (D. Van Zandt 05/08/2022) Updated (02/21/2024)
Taken together it continues to seem the owner Zandt just wants to have their site used to check bias while we all have to ignore his bias.
As another user pointed out Zandt has no issues with Times of Israel being left and factual. There’s also others, such as daily mail and Fox News with same factual rating with numerous issues listed so again calls into question why Zandt should be used as a reliable source for anything.
Germany to Israel: “It looks like you’re trying to do a genocide. Can I help you with that? I have some experience with that sort of thing.”
Israel: Please email us your CV.
Hey now it’s because it’s antisemitic to support Palestine!
You can support the palistine people but you need to reject thare goverment and hamas who are using them to wage a ridiculous holy war agsnsed anyone who doesn’t think like them
There are more than 30,000 people who have been killed by Israel. Are they all Hamas?
Hamas has been launching missile attack since late 2001 its 2023 almost 2024 palistine knew what they were getting into Israel has a right to defend its self and put a end to the attacks pepole are dying on both sides someone needs to put a stop to it and Israel ending its retaliatory mission isn’t going to stop hamas from killing
So are you saying all 30,000 people who died are Hamas?
Notable that you avoided the question entirely.
Thare might be civilaian casualties but that happens with any and all milltary incursions also Israel gave ample warning for pepole to leave the war zone before the fighting started i don’t think hamas gave any warning when they started bombing all what about all the casualties of the 20+years of constant missile attacks and thos who were brutly murderd by hamas
To me, the thing that makes this statement particularly ironic is that the dictionary definition of “Semite” includes just about anyone of middle-eastern descent. As such, purely based on the dictionary definition of “Semite”, it is Israel who is being antisemitic for conducting a genocide against Palestine.
Granted, the specific definition of “antisemitic” only includes Jews, but imo that’s an oversight that should be corrected.
People get very angry when you point out that Arabs are Semites. I saw someone claim that it’s like a gotcha argument from a 10 year old lol.
My response to that would be that just because it sounds like a “gotcha argument from a 10yr old” doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It just means a 10yr old has more sense than they do.
Ooh you’re good! Can you move into my head? There may be a vacancy available.
You don’t want me in your head lol. Mine is a mess.
Look and see mean roughly the same thing. Overlook and oversee have opposite meanings. Then there is oversight…
Such a weird language.
It’s Latin, Greek, Germanic, and a whole bunch of other shit just thrown into a pot. Raise to boil, let simmer, and season with regional slang no one fucking understands to your tasting.
The Nazi spirit in Germany never went away, hence why they’re both pro-Zionist (who are the modern age Nazis) and anti-Semite.
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Founded in 2007, Jüdische Stimme is a group of anti-Zionist Jews in Germany that primarily organises pro-Palestine protests, becoming increasingly prominent and expanding its ranks significantly since 7 October.
The bank demanded a list of the names of all of the members of Jüdische Stimme and their addresses, signed by members of the board by April 5 before adding that they were freezing the account immediately “as a precautionary measure.”
Multiple legal experts who spoke to Novara Media believe that the request for members’ data is unlawful in at least two ways: a breach of their contract with the bank, to which they had not consented to give this information, and EU privacy law, specifically general data protection regulation (GDPR).
Many of the group’s members have been arrested at protests, as part of a wider crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism which has included outright blanket bans on demonstrations, the designation of “from the river to the sea” as outright illegal (in some states under the same law which criminalises displays of the swastika), a ban on wearing Palestinian keffiyehs in Berlin schools. Many of the group are middle-aged or elderly Israelis.
Germany of all should know a genocide when it is happening. Watching this all unfold is maddening. It doesn’t matter what happened. Oblitering a city off the map and leaving an entire people without a nation is not an acceptable retaliation in our current world and time. Don’t anybody come back with “if someone nukes you… if someone kills your mom…” This is death on a biblical scale, this is what brought Europe together in the 1940s. It doesn’t matter if the death camp’s walls are Palestine’s borders. They are not going to survive without intervention.
Germany of all should know a genocide when it is happening.
Oh they know. The problem is west germany just never went through denazification
Fully 77 percent of senior ministry officials in 1957 were former members of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party, a higher proportion even than during the 1933-45 Third Reich, the study found.
Zionism is just the new form. Same goals (getting Jews out of Europe, and imperialism and colonialism; this time in the middle east instead), and similar methods (weaponizing and exacerbating antisemitism). No wonder then that nazis and zionists worked together.
west germany just never went through denazification
neither did the east. AfD is strongest there.
Germany was cursed to not once be correct about things pertaining to jewish people and genocides.
Nice… media that openly cheered for Hamas attacks is telling lies again and like the good little sheep most are nowadays people blindly believe it in rant about imaginary German nazis. The brain-rot induced by social media combined with a complete lack of media literacy gets more impressive every day.
