• wilberfan@lemmy.world
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    I totally believe this. Exactly zero of the 11K subscribers of the sub I mod have followed me over to the fediverse–despite a third of them ‘supporting’ the idea of keeping the sub dark.

    Still deciding if I should just be an ‘absentee mod’ (not post anything personally, but keep things reasonably orderly) or let someone else mod it and move on. I just cant, in good conscience, ‘return to normal’.

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    2 years ago

    I’ve cut out Reddit, if lemmy dies my social media use dies with it.

    I’ll be here contributing to the community as long as everyone else is.

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    I don’t really care. I like Lemmy more. Reminds me of early Reddit from over a decade ago. I’d rather have smaller and closer communities than gigantic ones filled with astroturfing and bots like on Reddit.

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    It’s going to dip again when third party apps are shut off. Personally I’m still browsing Reddit to check in on the drama on /r/ModCoord

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      dunno, but third party usage were never that high IIRC. that’s why them targeting third party apps is a weird decision

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        Apollo has 25m downloads, I can’t imagine that the various Android 3rd party apps are any lower than that in total, if not individually.

        Officially they make up a small amount of traffic, but amongst power users who both create and comment significantly is much more commonly done through 3rd party apps.

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      Yeah exactly this. Most of the subs I used to be active in are still restricted or just meme subs now. I’m checking in to watch the drama until I can’t use RIF anymore, but it’s all lurking for me now and I just don’t have any interest in engaging there anymore.

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    I was an active member of reddit for over a decade. That ended during the blackout and I refuse to go back. I have blocked reddit at the router level to ensure they see no traffic from my network

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      I had 11 years there. I do miss the interface and pure volume of content (235 subs as of a week ago), but I’m enjoying the conversations here which is the part that meant the most to me. I hate to see it go, but the fact is their app is shit and I use mobile, so when RiF goes im out.

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    I always said, redditors are good at complaining, but do nothing else.

    r/workreform is one of the most popular subs, yet reddit’s userbase can’t even protest online properly.

    Your work reform is never coming, plebbit. just saying.

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      Sadly, I think this is widely true about people in general. Actually commiting to change is so much harder than expressing dissatisfaction with your current state.

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        except this is not “I gotta threaten to quit my job if it doesn’t improve”, “stop eating meat”, or “switch to a bicycle instead of a car”.

        This is a “I gotta open a different app and start lurking there daily and occasionally post”.

        Switching to lemmy took me an hour. How difficult is this protest, really?

        I mean, how much hope is there for humanity with that level of indifference/apathy.

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        Occupy Wall Street comes to mind.

        The George Floyd protests eventually brought about justice to the killers, but so many protests never pan out unless extreme violence and complete revocation of the current system takes place, which has never happened in American protests due to the general populace’s sense of comfort.

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          Occupy Wall Street

          Was that failure organic or due to sabotage from a modern COINTELPRO, though?

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            It smelled like a barn there when it was going on. No plan whatsoever to deal with hygiene. I talked to them a few times and listened. They couldn’t even set up a basic organization structure or even agree to decorum in voting like Robert’s Rules. Plus they couldn’t stay on message. I spoke to a person who identified themselves as a spokesperson who continued to say over and over again “I can’t speak for others about that”.

            You don’t need to invent a plan by the CIA to destroy that. It is like every single idea of how to organize a protest was thrown out the window and replaced with well nothing.

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              COINTELPRO was an FBI thing (not CIA), but never mind that. Maybe the problem was that they were scared of such infiltration, and over-corrected by trying not to have any hierarchy at all.

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      “I did something about it! I liked someone’s angry tweet!” Then they watched Netflix, distractedly fondling their purity and lovingly sniffing their fingers. bOtH pArTiEs ArEtHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe

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    I’m more curious about how the numbers will look after they nix 3rd party apps. There’s bound to be a dip after June 30.

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      Are there a significant number of users using third party apps? Would be interesting to see.

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        I’ve seen an overview from a popular sub a while ago, as far as I remember a third were using 3rd party apps at least part of the time. Many people use multiple ways to view Reddit though, apps on mobile, old Reddit in a tab at work etc.

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        Last I saw they account for something around 10 000 0000 users. But that number is dwarfed by the official app.

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          Yes, but many of the “power users” (ie, not lurkers who downloaded the official app because its the "official app) are the ones making content which drives enagement who are using 3rd party apps, as well as the majority of mods AFAIK.

          All we can do now is speculate until the price of API access pushes our 3rd party apps in July.

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    I went on Reddit yesterday for the first time since the strike, whilst trying to debug a code issue. Almost every post from years old questions had the replies deleted by the users. I think the real damage will be the deletion of content and the change in tone from redditors. Most useful discourse will be gone and it will turn into a place only for arguing, memes and shit posting. Advertisers aren’t going to want to pay to advertise on low quality content like that.

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      I truly feel most of the 3rd party app users were the more level headed folks in the userbse. For the most part we were users there since before reddit had an app when good discourse took place. We’re taking that discourse with us and i anticipate further deterioration of reddit. More akin to Facebook style toxicity and echo chambering. I’m sad to see it because overall that’s a net loss for humanity/the internet. But I like it here.

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      Punishing future searchers is what has me conflicted about wiping everything. I have an 11 year account. I have no idea how many times my troubleshooting was correct for various issues or howany times my anecdotal incidents could match for someone else.

      xkcd: Wisdom of the Ancients

      https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wisdom_of_the_ancients.png

      Rollover: “All long threads should have a globally editable post stickied to the top saying” DEAR FUTURE USERS, here’s what we’ve learned so far"

      Since I didn’t figure out image embedding, here’s the regular link https://xkcd.com/979/

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          That will just get you buried under the hordes of SEO garbage. People add “reddit” to their searches because regular search is useless.

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          It’s not realistic. I’m not THAT helpful. I just know the value I’ve found in ancient threads myself. I can’t really sift through my own shit posts in any meaningful way and I can’t bring the entire discussions with me.

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          It just feels dirty. The odds of someone coming across an old thread vs them posting + me seeing are very disproportionate. I’ve seen a lot of sites turn to shit and it hurts to actively contribute to that. I’m a tiny fraction of it, but part of it nonetheless. I feel like Roy Batty in his rainy monologue in Blade Runner as I reminisce among what I’ve seen. I’ve seen Facebook become the #1 social site and allow beautiful groups to flourish, only to collapse under it’s own weight and greed and become an unsearchable stream of consciousness. I’ve seen photobucket gain titan status among image hosting, only to allow greed to permanently destroy decade-old archives among forums. I was there when forums changed formats that would break 15 years worth of inter-thread link formats, shredding the web-like connections between dormant discussions. I remember the adorable, embarrassing exchanges posted to MySpace bulletin boards as an embedded video played over an audio stream with clashing text colors before that was eclipsed by the clean, mature format of Facebook. And now, we’re in another wave of Reddit degradation as so many users wipe their data in spite of the poor executive decisions. We thought the internet was forever, that anything posted was eternal. We feared sharing anything sensitive due to the viral nature of the web. But, as it turns out, it’s not so permanent. Those critical viral moments spread like fire on flash paper and were forgotten just as fast. Corporate greed and poor management has proven again and again this is all temporary. All of those moments, those posts, lost in time like tears in rain.