Sorry
These things happen. Try not to do it again.
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If it’s very effective for this strain, it might be like 90% effective at not getting it. But there are more strains that will have less effect. As others are saying, symptoms should be more mild if you do get it.
You’ll come in contact with it probably. The vaccines help the immune system catch it earlier before its taken hold. That’s why covid is such a hard disease to fight naturally, by the time your immune system sees it it has to ramp up to 1000 to fight it off, and then the worst symptoms are what your immune system is causing. (Fever is just your body trying to make it inhospitable to the virus after all).
Vaccines are an early detector, you already have antibodies so it can say whoa whoa whoa I know what you are, gonna get you out now before you take hold. Some people will have it gone before symptoms start. Others will have some symptoms but a milder version.
I personally had the vaccines and got it and it felt like the worst flu I’d ever had, and the main symptoms lasted about 3 weeks.
Like all the vaccines do far, they will likely reduce your risk of catching it and reduce your symptoms and risk of hospitalisation or death. None have eliminated the chance to catch it or get symptoms.
That’s not to say they don’t work. That’s how they work. They make your immune system better at dealing with them. Each new variant and time increases your risk again.
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I’m of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses. It just is now. We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this. But also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth. If only they bothered to actually read what I wrote.
The covids have unexpected health consequences that are way beyond the scope of the flu, including heart conditions, and chronic respiratory problems.
Yeah, long COVID seems to hit people randomly, and it seems even vaccination status doesn’t make a huge difference.
And before you know it you’ve spent a year in bedcare.
It’s not totally random. I’ve noticed it affects self-centered and narcissistic people more frequently, almost like it’s one more justification to be a perpetual victim.
Didn’t think I’d see the “disabled people are just looking for attention” card being played on Lemmy but here we are.
You know what’s wild? My alzheimer’s patients almost always have the most healthy bodies and rarely complain about pain. They’re not overweight. They don’t get CHF. They pass through COVID and other illnesses with mild symptoms.
Your simplified strawman contains a seed of truth.
Ah yes. Your tiny sample size.
From a disabled person. Fuck off. COVID sucked and continues to affect me.
You don’t know my sample size. I promise it’s much bigger than your twitter samples.
I read it as anti-vaxxers, COVID conspiracy idiots, and maybe conservatives in general, not disabled people.
Why would anti-vaxxers or COVID conspiracists be talking about having Long COVID? They’re more likely to represent it as a minor cold, not talking publicly about being disabled by illness.
Because once it actually significantly affects them they’re more likely to suddenly care about it.
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I think they’re saying that unvaccinated people are more likely to get more severe cases of covid and therefore are more likely to get long covid.
“I only hear about things from people who talk about things”
It’s true that the narcissists love to post about their long COVID too. It’s like being a celebrity.
It seems that way if you don’t know anything, yes.
This seems to be mostly debunked, at least regarding to heart conditions:
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219
Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021.
Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.
The original strain, yes. The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it. It’s become a minor cold to the vast majority of the human population.
Did you post the wrong link?
You can’t just say some bullshit then post a link and think it backs up what you’ve said. That paper explores the genetic predisposition to COVID susceptibility and not:
The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it.
Is there like one sentence in that paper you’ve latched onto that you think justifies your bad take?
I don’t think you read enough of the report. It goes into showing those genetic markers of that patents of covid. That means that those groups are who should be far more careful than groups without those genetics.
And you originally posted:
The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it.
You’re jumping to your own incorrect conclusions as that is NOT what the posted article says.
You are correct in regards to 6% of the human population. I’m talking about the 94%.
Did you read the article you posted? I read the overview and intro and really didn’t seem to support your statement.
They say the same thing for every variant, but of the 300 deaths a day 90% are 65 and older. It’s on par with the flu now.
We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Just because something isn’t reported on everyday doesn’t mean it isn’t important
I don’t think you deserve the downvoting. I do think it’s semi-newsworthy but you’re right that people really don’t care anymore. We aren’t going to mask back up, most people won’t get vaccinated, much like the flu, shots are going to be available but just not common. Your overall sentiment is echoing most peoples so I think it’s entirely valid despite what the internet justice warriors think
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COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it’s just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they’ll effect people and spread. So it’s not really a concern, it’s just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we’re still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it’s good to keep people in the know.
I’m thankful it’s still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I’m glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I’d been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there’s long COVID, we don’t get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I’ve felt worse since getting it.
So it’s not just as easy as saying but the flu. They’re two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there’s still stuff being written about it, be thankful it’s being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that’s akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn’t acceptable before this covid, still not now.
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“Some of you may die, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take” – @[email protected]
With the ability to leap that far you should consider the Olympics.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
Why is death your only metric?
There is a metric for sniffles?
So the only two possibilities for COVID are “sniffles” and “death?” No other possibilities?
Really bad sniffles? It’s not anything to worry about anymore. Nature will do it’s thing and the human population moves on.
COVID used up all of my sick time when I had it earlier this year because I was out for a week. It gave me symptoms that are still ongoing. I can’t get a full night’s sleep because I wake up coughing every night. That’s “really bad sniffles” to you?
Being the 4th leading cause of death in 2022 is far from “posing no issues”
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
The bulk of “unintentional accidents” are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I don’t really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.
Unintentional Motor vehicle accidents: 45,404
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Unintentional Poison deaths: 102,001
First you post:
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023
Then you post:
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Which most certainly includes “Slipping on a wet floor” but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!
You’re obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don’t necessarily die to it any more doesn’t mean it “poses no issues”.I don’t think anyone is saying it doesn’t pose an issue with 6%, they are saying it does pose and issue for the other 94%.
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn’t suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that’s the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn’t kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine
we should. you should be made aware of new things that can affect your health and well-being. we would all do better if we were informed.
But we do though. And we are informed. Just like there are news releases when there’s a new flu strain, or vaccine or anything.
What I said was specifically ‘at this level’. It doesn’t need to hit the top headlines for the day.
Oh, I don’t agree with that. There’s no news release for new flu strains or new flu vaccines (there’s new ones every year, you know. It’s not a once a decade thing)
Do you actually believe it doesn’t need to hit ‘at this level’ because people would be just as informed if it wasn’t? Or do you just not want to see it anymore.
The NHS here is always sending out press releases to the population to remind those that are vulnerable to get their seasonal vaccines (inclusive of flue, and COVID).
There is information out there about new flu mutations and flu shots, but with those applicable going for yearly vaccinations it really is irrelevant.
So, to go back to my original point, which people seem so adamant on willfully misreading so that they can have something to be outraged about, it’s not news worthy on the scale these articles want to suggest that they are. There are countless things that change or develop that various different subsections of society need to know about.
if you really truly believe that any information about new flu viruses gets to “the population” then i’m sorry, you are very very very very very very very wrong.
I know what your original point was, i don’t care. my point was countering it with “we should have more exposure of health impacting news”, you just think that it’s not needed because you think that the NHS is delivering this information to “the population”, which again, is very very very very very very very wrong.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I’m travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don’t get paid sick leave), knowing what is “out there” is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there’s usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
You’re an idiot. A neighbor down the road just died of it last week. 45 years old with a 6 year old little girl. Fuck you.
Hey look, it’s one of those “This doesn’t affect me, so why should I give a shit?” types! With enough training, they evolve into “Why didn’t anyone warn me??!?” types.
All hail *cough* Discordia!
23 skidoo!
I see at least one fnord
I’m having a hot dog, anyone else need one?
At this point I’m treating COVID like the flu. Every September I’ll get shot combo for both and go about my business.
I had Covid and other than taking away my taste for a while it didn’t really do much to me. The vaccine is what knocked me out. I had an allergic reaction to it and got a 103°F temp, body aches, and severe flu like symptoms so badly that I had to go to the ER.
Me too (I don’t care about flu)
Vaccines don’t protect you from Long Covid. Only masks and leaving the air with CR boxes and ventilation do (avoiding infection)
Source?
His ass.
Normally I’d agree, but these COVID vaccines put me down for 24-48 hours and the flu shot has never done that. Its very weird and difficult to schedule myself 48 hours of ‘sick time’ for a vaccine recovery.
Edit: I’d like to clarify that I’ve always gotten them when available, so I’m 3x boosted or whatever, I just wish they had options for people that react like this.
I feel like I shouldn’t complain as much after reading this.
I have the same mild reaction to COVID and flu vaccines. I feel shit for about eight hours. The only COVID shot that put me down was the second of the two moderna shots. That hit hard. None of the boosters have hit hard.
Yeah that was the same for me, the second one in quick succession hit me, but the following ones that were months (year?) apart didn’t really affect me thankfully. Just an incredibly sore arm for a couple days, but that’s standard for me and shots.
You’ve had a flu shot every year and never had any side effects?
Nope, I’ve never had anything more severe than some malaise for a couple hours that evening. With the moderna shots I’m usually down for 36 hours and on the mend for another 8. the 2nd booster that happened in quick succession gave me a 102 degree fever before i started taking tylenol for it but i consistently run 99-100 even with tylenol dosing.
Yeah same. The flu shot usually makes me feel a little bad for a morning. The Covid vaccine makes me feel flat out sick for 24 hours.
I just had a doctors appointment on Friday where they offered me the newest booster and I had to say no because I had full days of work the next 3 days.
Yeah better to plan it out. My wife and I take it on Friday and then we take the Saturday to just be lazy, usually it’s conveniently timed to rewatch Star wars
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I guess it’s because any negativity to the vaccine.
The same thing happened to my wife. It was much less the for the boosters so it will likely get better in the future. I never even really felt bad. A little bit of a headache the first time but I’m not even sure that was related honestly. And I’ve gotten a little bit of a drained-feeling with the flu vaccine.
yeah in hindsight i probably should have elaborated more on the perspective of yearning for the dosing or something to get better for people that have severe reactions.
Each one of the shots made me feel worse than the last (multiple side effects) so I stopped at 3. The one time I got sick with covid was a lot worse than the shots mainly because it lasted for about 10 days, but the intensity was similar to the shots’ side effects. It was after my 3 shots were all completed. Now I’m fine fortunately but I don’t want any more covid shots.
I never actually got sick with covid until I stopped wearing a mask. N95 masks work well against covid and pretty much everything else. If you don’t want to get sick, get some N95 masks and use them wherever it’s crowded.
For me both the COVID and flu vaccines make me feel sick for about 24 hours. I just get them at the same time now and plan for a day on the weekend to just laze around and watch movies or something.
Feeling sick for a day or two after the vaccine is a small price to pay to avoid long COVID. Some people never recover, see Physics Girl on YT.
I had it for three weeks and that was long enough, and for a couple of weeks after still I couldn’t enjoy coffee or chocolate or anything with floral flavors. Definitely sucked hard, I can’t imagine having it longer
I don’t disagree at all, I should have elaborated in my original comment but I guess I was more yearning for better suited vaccines for people that get hit hard by them. Maybe we could take a smaller dose or different cocktail?
Which one did you take? A lot of people I know who took Moderna got hit hard, but only one person I know who took the Pfizer did. My family all took Pfizer and didn’t have any symptoms besides the usual soreness at the injection site.
thus far mine have all been moderna, ha
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Post viral syndromes are phenomena that have been well documented long before COVID. You can find any number of scientific papers on the matter if you only cared to look.
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Can confirm. Had COVID twice since 2020 and it absolutely fucking sucks. Never felt anything like it.
COVID took me out for over a week last time. I’m good with 24-48hr if it means I won’t be as sick the next time I catch it.
Last booster with moderna was a half dose. If you had Pfizer it was a full dose. Not sure what the next ones will be but make sure you check and see if there is a half dose option.
That’s good to hear that even though the vaccine is targeting the last big Omicron variant (XBB.1.5) aka Kraken, that its still effective towards the new Eris variant as its similar enough.
I’m 2+1 and just tested positive for COVID yesterday. I had COVID previously in 2021 as well. Symptoms are mild with runny nose, headache, fatigue, and a light cough.
Catching it again has me comparing the environment then and now and made the COVID apathy more apparent. Most co-worker responses have been either “That’s still a thing?” to “Throw a mask on and come back into the office.” I’ve elected to isolate to not be responsible for more spread. The frustrating thing is looking for guidance and most articles are dated in 2022. The pharmacy had fewer stock of masks and COVID tests were in the back now.
I’m all for continuing to receive regular vaccinations like I do for the flu. If anything to continue to keep the symptoms mild.
Well I appreciate your sanity
Make sure you take time to rest. I had a mild case last December and went back to work in the like 5 days they say. I ended up with long covid and I’m still not all the way better. Not resting is a big risk factor for long covid.
Thanks, appreciate your concern. I’m trying to rest, but unfortunately soundly sleeping has been challenging. My nose is congested but still dripping if that makes sense. My mouth dries out and I’m waking up constantly. I’ll try to get some reprieve beyond the 5 days.
Many of the free COVID tests are all expired now. They issued an extension but finding an at-home test has been really difficult. I went to 3 different pharmacies/grocery stores before I was able to find a test.
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Fuck no!
I’ll bet there’s not going to be any lines this fall when I go to get this shot. Even by the 4th round during the pandemic I had no trouble making an appointment. Lots of people just decided COVID’s over once they got any number of shots (1 in some cases).
You must live in a low science believer area. When I was near Seattle they were always running out or you have to book a couple weeks in advance. Sometimes walkins are lucky.
I live in a city with LOTS of liberal voters. Even a lot of them just aren’t as concerned about COVID anymore. Folks will get the shot, but a lot will wait until closer to the holidays.
Or maybe they live in an area that uses technology for better appointment systems and stock management. Let’s not try and assign beliefs to comments that aren’t about it.
We’re in fucking Florida now. I’ll be lucky if I don’t have to drive to get it.
Will be getting it as soon as possible. My last one was almost a year ago because they haven’t authorized any more for the general population.
Cost is going to determine if a significant number of people get it
This is what I’m running into, also. They know the jab is only good for a few months, but will not authorize another until its been 12.
I’m about to try to get mine early since I have international travel coming up. I’ll pay out of pocket if needed. I just want the good stuff.
That’s what I did last year, got it done about a month before a plane trip I had coming. I still got sick despite wearing an N95 on both flights, but it tested negative for covid.
I just want one that’s bad enough to wipe out at least half of us. Nature says we need to go.
I’m against extinction, actually.
As a Discordian and literal Hellenic pagan Eris worshiper, it’s a BAD IDEA to name things after her.
Even if you don’t believe in Chaos, invoking Chaos will cause, at a minimum, panic.
I’m kind of curious what kind of evidence you’ve seen that has convinced you to believe in, and worship, Hellenic pagan dieties? What is it about this specific diety has convinced you that it’s not only real, but worthy of worship?
Hope this doesn’t come off wrong, I’m genuinely curious.
I originally became a Pagan at the age of 18. With Paganism, you choose the god that fits you best. You don’t alter your moral compass to fit into a god’s ideals lie one would Christianity.
I eventually found myself attracted to being a general Chaosist and specifically a Discordian
What convinced me was reading the holy book Principia Discordia. It teaches that life is all about perspective of the individual and that what you see with your own eyes may not be what others see in theirs.
I also see Chaos as the ultimate creation force because if everything was static and unmoving, we wouldn’t be here right now.
I also had a near-death experience with Eris, where I saw here when I had a heart attack at 29 due to a genetic condition that I have.
So there’s not a lot of physical evidence for only one specific god or many, but I like to make sure that I notice the things that shouldn’t have gone statistically in my favor. That hopefully is sowing something watching over me.
Good god these comments are cancer.
Actually they’re Leo. Cancer is in late June and July.
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I’m sure that the disabled, elderly, immunocompromised, and just plain unlucky are happy that you’re volunteering them for death.
Is their comment editing going on or did you reply to the wrong comment or is my app glitched? The comment you replied to seems to say:
That’s good to hear that even though the vaccine is targeting the last big Omicron variant (XBB.1.5) aka Kraken, that its still effective towards the new Eris variant as its similar enough.
Which obviously doesn’t make sense for your comment (which I assume was meant to be a reply to an anti-vaxxer or something)
What?
I’M SURE THAT THE DISABLED, ELDERLY, IMMUNOCOMPROMISED, AND JUST PLAIN UNLUCKY ARE HAPPY THAT YOU’RE VOLUNTEERING THEM FOR DEATH!
THANK YOU. YOU LOOK NICE TODAY TOO.
