I mean, “serverless computing” has always only meant that it’s “serverless” for the customer who buys the compute power in the sense that they don’t have to bother the slightest with the architecture or managing it. Not really anything to reveal there…
Yeah, but the joke is somewhat funny still
I think the “Cat Looks Inside” meme would’ve been more appropriate, because the “# Let’s See Who This Really Is” (a.k.a. “Scooby Doo Reveal”) meme is more about revealing something that is actually different, while the CLI one is sarcastic. Like “Wireless device. Look inside. Wires” isn’t revealing anything serious but makes fun of the misleading nomenclature. A good SDR example would be pulling the mask off a KKK member to reveal a cop, while they are supposed to be on the opposite sides, they are one and the same.
On the meme spectrum, SDR sits somewhere in between CLI and “They are the Same Picture”.Thank you for not coming to me MemTalk.
Tans there we have it folks, the suffix “less” is now redefined
As with everything marketing, words mean nothing they just sound cool.
I don’t think it is. it’s what you use if you’re serverless yourself.
This naming also came from a time when most people bought/rented servers where they would SSH/FTP into to update their software.
Yeah, and the big selling point for serverless is that you only deal with the code you want to run, none of that “server management” stuff. It’s a perfectly reasonable name based on what’s appealing about it.
I still think it should be called server-transparent instead of serverless. Makes it a little clearer.
Wouldn’t it be server-opaque though, bc they don’t see the server details?
In computer science, “transparent” means that you don’t see something, i.e. internals are hidden. Like you don’t see glass.
All I’m hearing is that it still runs on servers 😡
MySQL: you set it up, if the server fails, you have to fix it. You set up replication, replication fails, you have to fix it. It’s your alarms, you get up at 2:00 a.m., you set up backups. You deal with IP changes. You deal with your two+ boxes and their patches. Those servers are your responsibility. If their hypervisor needs an update you’re stuck with the boxes going down.
Aurora serverless: you don’t deal with any of that.
Saying they’re the same as like saying that a self-driving taxi is the same as leasing your own car. In both cases there are servers involved, But in one of the two cases you don’t have anything to do with the server.
So serverless means the same as buying it as a service?
Pretty much.
You can install serverless frameworks on your server though. Best of both worlds
As someone in the ISP/hosting business, i can tell you that there are plenty of companies incapable of sufficiently managing actual servers. For their own safety it’s probably better to let someone else manage it for them (despite getting ripped off then)
I’d like to take the stance that: If you can’t manage your own data, don’t start a business. But that seems like a shaky foundation to plant a flag, so I will instead say, “I hate Oracle.”
It just means that they’re not your servers.
A VPS in not my server in the same sense then
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I was under the impression that “serverless” was marketing speak for “it has servers, but it’s more opaque, and we will charge you a lot more”.
It’s more like “it has servers, but you don’t have to manage them, or hire someone to manage them, and we will charge you a lot more, but maybe you’ll save money because you don’t have to hire someone”.
It may also be cheaper because they only run (and acal) when needed, instead of having a few extra servers running “just in case”.
Until you get a random ddoss attack or bug and get a 1000 times higher bill.
Correct
This is what happens when a technical field gets infiltrated by business bros. Remember how openai was talking about AGI helping humanity or smth? Their definition of AGI was leaked recently, its “making $100 billion profit”.
That’s it, thats what will help humanity achieve its true potential, by openai making $100b in profits.
That’s it, thats what will help humanity achieve its true potential, by openai making $100b in profits.
Yay capitalism! We did it!
Not really. Serverless is “you don’t need to manage the servers”. For some businesses, even managing a VPS is too technical a task. So, you could either go out and hire someone who can do that, or you can go serverless and pay a bit more for that, but save by not needing additional expertise.
We all are disagreeing on the naming not the functionality. It used to be the case that names in tech were descriptive, just by reading it out loud you can understand the tech (e,g. SQL, OOP etc.).
“Serverless” is a marketing term. A better name would be “server agnostic deployment” or many many other ways to describe it.
The fact is, this name was created by the people selling it not the people using it. And i am sure the idea is not new, but the serverless name tries to make it seem like a comparatively recent thing so people would buy it more.
page 196 of CompTIA Security+ SY0-701 Cert Guide
Serverless
Another popular architecture is the serverless architecture. Be aware that serverless does not mean that you do not need a server somewhere. Instead, serverless archi- tecture involves using cloud platforms to host and/or to develop code. For example, you might have a serverless app that is distributed in a cloud provider like Amazon Web Services (AWS), Microsoft Azure, or Google Cloud Platform (GCP). Serverless is a cloud computing execution model in which the cloud provider (AWS, Azure, Google Cloud, and so on) dynamically manages the allocation and provision- ing of servers. Serverless applications run in stateless containers that are ephemeral and event triggered (fully managed by the cloud provider). AWS Lambda is one of the most popular serverless architectures in the industry.
Me before opening this thread: I bet it’s a weasel term for cloud bullshit.
Fucking marketing dickheads.
The amount of ACKTUALLYs in this thread…
