• Rogue_General@lemmy.world
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    Am I wrong in thinking this is sad as hell? Like seeing an old faded billboard with the same “your ad here!” text that’s been there for ages.

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    Having tried to use Reddit advertising for business (a national company), it really wasn’t very good. They had very poor targeting and algorithms.

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      Reddit has attempted, multiple times, to reach out to Andrew Tate to partner with him on advertisements, including twice while he was imprisoned.

      I know this because their numbskull marketing folks can’t proofread the email address they’re sending outreach to, and I received the outreach emails as a result. Thanks, Reddit!

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    They really thought that meme was appropriate.

    But here it is, being posted, so maybe it worked?

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        It’s an unfortunate reality but that’s probably going to have to happen. Instances can’t be expected to grow and maintain on pure goodwill. Some might get by with donations but it’s pretty known that Mastodon servers that couldn’t support themselves on donations vanished. It’s a huge ask for someone to pay money, time and effort to run a server for perpetuity. Usually you can only ask for 2 out of the 3 lol.

        We already saw the original lemmynsfw get overwhelmed and just want to shut it down and hand it to someone else because they were having to put in so much work.

        Hopefully because Lemmy is opt in in every sense, instance owners can do an ad setup that isn’t intrusive or over bearing.

        Otherwise it’s just the big instances that are donation covered that stay and grow and Lemmy just becomes centralized around 5 servers or something.

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          archive of our own does a fundraising event, and asks for donations until they get to their target. I could see Lemmy instances following the same model; if they do it right and get themselves listed as a non-profit, they can even get fundraising functionality into an app, and set it up so that Apple doesn’t take their 30% cut.

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            This works if you have an audience already though. Small instances won’t have that already but they’ll be expected to federate and hold like 40 servers worth of data/content just to start up and not seem dead. Then try to grow their user base, and without ads as the norm beg them to donate as they scale up. Or just do it at a loss for a long time which really reduces the pool of people willing to run a Lemmy instance that isn’t a shithead.

            There’s already another reply saying if an instance runs ads just leave it. And this exact stance is why so many Mastodon servers have shut down. In some cases apparently when servers started showing ads to their users, other servers defederated them as a show of force against it. And then they withered and died.

            As onboarding costs get higher and the amount of new users signing up dwindles instance growth is going to stagnate then probably go negative. Unless everyone can be chill about stuff like ads like I said we’ll end up with just 4-5 big servers who let’s be honest are just early adopters not necessarily the best places. Or Facebook who can spend money like no other, shove their users in, and will just control the whole thing.

            I don’t want ads but we’ve seen how mastodon failed and users retaliating against them was a big issue.

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              Don’t forget you can always self host one’s own instance and access the larger fediverse from it, without Ads. So because it’s open source, itll always be easy to access the fediverse with an Ad free experience. A personal instance doesn’t need to grow, scale, host 40gb of data, or have any content at all either so it doesn’t come with the issues of a public instance.

              Or Facebook who can spend money like no other, shove their users in, and will just control the whole thing.

              This just doesn’t make sense at all. IF Fb ever added ActivityPub support (it would take a huge rework of their format) but instances would just defederate from it like they did with ad supported instances. And then what is even the point of FB ActivityPub support if their exiled.

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      I’m fine with ads. It costs money to run servers and build out the platform.

      I’m not fine with the absolutely sleezy way spez handled the api changes and the ridiculous price. Utterly disrespectful to the mods, third party app devs, and Reddit users.

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          I honestly don’t even mind targeted ads, just sleezy ones. Targeted ads means I get ads for GPUs instead of health insurance.

          What really annoys me is how many shitty off-the-mark ads I get from Google, despite the fact that they ought to know literally everything about me. LIke, if you’re going to massively invade my privacy, why aren’t you even using that information?

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          I love the lack of ads, but I suppose I could live with them as long as they were clearly distinguished from real user content. I hated those reddit ads that were from a reddit account and looked like just another post if you didn’t pay attention to the flair.

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          Problem is that such isn’t a stable source of income.

          Though I guess Wikipedia makes it work. So I dunno.

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        Just because things cost money doesn’t mean that ads are the best way to pay for them, or that we have to accept advertising as part of the process. I ABHOR advertising, but I don’t mind signing up to support someone on Patreon, like I’m doing with the developer of the instance I’m on.

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    This is embarrassing.

    What a weak revenue stream. Imagine being a business, investing in a subreddit, only for the subreddit to be inundated by bots.

    Reddit is going the way of Twitter and it’s astounding to watch.

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        When the surviving 3rd party app users hit their limit for API calls you will absolutely get this message and probably an option to upgrade for $$$ too.

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          The Narhwal dev said this is how he’s approaching it. You get so many calls with a subscription and then have to top off with more if you hit it. So Prepaid mobile plans are coming to your favorite 3rd party apps for a website that’s free! People are desperate to give Reddit money even after all this.

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    I wonder if advertisers have been leaving Reddit and if so, how many? I’ve honestly never seen a social media website/company ask for advertisers like this tbh.

    I’m not a lot on social media to begin with, so I’m not sure.

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    I logged in to reddit on my computer the day after rif went dark, and there were noticeably fewer posts on the front page. I think only 8 or so posts were above 10k upvotes. I wouldn’t be surprised if advertisers are pulling their ads in response.

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        Weird subs are dominating r/all. Bunch of guys shaving their heads, delivery drivers complaining, “am I hot” subs. Weird and boring, the soul is gone.

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        I didn’t and don’t expect Leddit to die a quick death or anything

        Was the ‘Let it’ joke intentional, or a happy accident?

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        I always thought a scary amount of undetected “guerilla marketing” was invading Reddit. And I’m convinced bots were ginning up conversation in the comment sections of those Reddit posts. And bots were downvoting me when I cried manipulation. And all those voices I always hear were very against me.

        And here I thought I was crazy.

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          Same, some of it was pretty obvious. Also a ton of bots spreading propaganda.

          Oh look here’s Friendly_Box3916 with a 2 month old account and a hot take on a political issue.