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When Boost for Lemmy went live, I didn’t even hesitate to uninstall Reddit.
Fuck reddit! I’m never going to contribute to that website.
Thankfully Boost came out the same week Relay went to monthly subscription only. I actually forgot I had set Boost to install automatically when the app was released.
I spent the few days before Boost was released giving the official Reddit app another shot, and remembering why I hate it so much.
Boost making it easy to sign up and get started was the final step on my path away from Reddit.
Same thing. I specifically waited for Boost for Lemmy to release in order to create an account. It feels familiar enough, so no problem.
What is Boost? Searching for it pulls up a bunch of different things.
I stopped using Reddit the day boost went offline.
Boost for reddit still works fine
Not for all
You just need to be moderator of a sub, so just make one
Same here
Old.reddit.com, ublock, VPN. Good luck, spez.
Until they kill old.reddit
I think there was some reasoning that this would be a long way off due to technical reasons, but still, until then.
Given that spez went full Elon and negated years of precident with the API, I wouldn’t be surprised if he started unplugging random servers to see if Reddit still worked
What happend to reddit? I only know that most 3rd party apps shut down because of the API costs
50-50 shot lemmy devolves into a fascist hellsite
With the sheer number of @[email protected] liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to “dae both sides” justify the presence of nazis, I’d say the chances are higher than that.
Liberals get bored and leave, and if that happens we outnumber the fash
It depends on the attention span of the ‘ex’redditors
Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don’t, won’t be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.
in the scenario I imagine, and am seeing definite signs of, the ‘federation’ will fragment into 2 camps: one that tolerates fascists and one that doesnt, and the one that tolerates them will become a new reddit except this time its not directly run by the FBI/spez etc but has the same bad habits and same bad apples
It’ll become walled gardens. I mean, I’m not that worried easy come easy go in my view, hexbear will continue to truck along whether the lemmiverse falls to fascists or just becomes fractured due to their influence.
can i be in the one without hexbear
Liberals pounding on my door screaming “yes I would like to sit at the nazi table please!”
you’re already on your way
Yes you can be in the one that tolerates fascist if you want.
Lol, I knew this post wasn’t from my home Lemmy. I find that your people’s customs are strange and endearing.
@ZWho63 Can I comment lemmy posts from mastodon?
My findings so far:
- Can I edit it? (Yes I can)- Pictures attached on mastodon don’t show up on lemmy.
- Some replies don’t show up on lemmy.ml, but visible on fosstodon.org and https://pawb.social.
- Link to pawb.social is not linkified without https:// prefix.
An example of two attached screenshots that are visible only on fosstodon: https://fosstodon.org/@abcdw/111152102681928222
You’re exaggerating a little bit. Reddit is more alive than alive.
Still have my account, even though I haven’t logged in for months.
I just deleted my account because I was inspired by this post this morning. I hadn’t logged in since the last drama here, so fuck them. I’m getting by just fine with Lemmy.
I might be biased but I find that reddit has become insufferably right wing in it’s userbase, especially since the last fiasco.
I just lookevery once in a while and it is full of the most reactionary, nationalist shite
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16tqihd/settings_updateschanges_to_ad_personalization/
Reddit just decided it was a good idea to REMOVE the option to disable ad personalisation. Good job u/spez. We know what you’re doing.
reddit has ads?
Yea, ublock always blocks them on old Reddit. So this technically won’t affect me.
I’m sure old.reddit is on its way out in the near future.
Reddit is ads.
Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like “How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?”
Wouldn’t affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.
I think this is the removal of the opt out of selling my data to advertisers?
It still means they’re selling your info to advertisers
Neat, so they are monetising your activities on the plattform. Isn’t that great?
They’ve always been doing it, they’re just gonna stop hiding it now.
Corporate does corporate things.
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For-profit company exploits userbase for profit. More at 11:00.
I’m surprised you’re surprised that others are surprised… because no one is surprised about this.
This really doesn’t sound legal.
I hope spez has good GDPR lawyers!
I was going to ask as well. Doesn’t it like infringe on a law madd by California or the EU or some shit?
Time for a new influx. Everyone still on reddit needs to advertise lemmy.
And not join-lemmy.org, that’s confusing. Just pick one of the larger servers like lemm.ee or fedia.io and tell people to browse it and click “Sign Up” if they like it.
I’d recommend a smaller community to help spread the load. I originally signed up on .world but they were having some growing pains (And a disgruntled idiot ddosing them) so I moved to .ca which helped tremendously.
I went to iusearchlinux.fyi and came back to .world about a week ago. It seems to be doing very well now.
I really disagree. For learning lemmy for average people, big instance is best.
There is a point where people who stick around are likely to make a new “real” account on a different smaller server, after they know what they want to browse.
Basically big instances should be like training wheels.
Yeah tbh this is how I did it and I consider myself tEcH sAvVy - still started with .world because I didn’t know where else to go.
You need to know the special password for .ca
I’m Canadian anyway, so I have it memorized.
Hello Canadian, I’m maple syrup!
We may be related, I’m 40% maple.
I see! I’m actually 33% polar bear and 66% maple, we may be not so distant cousins!
Is it “sorry”?
„Eh“
Dot see eh?
maybe start posting links from lemmy like what happened with digg (i think? wasn’t there for it)
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Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?
Because other people are there
Network effects are real
I think the average person is not willing to take 5 minutes to figure out how Kbin or Lemmy works.
Kbin, at least, for the end user is just as simple as reddit.
Before I left Reddit, I searched for alternatives and saw that people recommended Lemmy or Kbin. But I didn’t know what those things were. I assumed they were just Reddit clones hosted by someone else. I didn’t know that I could create an account on Kbin and interact with other posts in the Fediverse. I didn’t even know what the Fediverse was. So I was stuck with this decision of “do I try Lemmy or Kbin first?”
When I decided to try Lemmy, the first thing you need to do is sign up on an instance. People recommended beehaw.org, but that required filling out an application to join. That seems weird, since I never had to apply to read Reddit. I decided to try another instance (sh.itjust.works) but was worried that I was missing out on what people had recommended about other instances. Maybe I chose the wrong one? Maybe I should make an account on Lemmy.world instead?
It took me a little while to grasp the concept of federation and realize that it made no difference as an end user which instance I chose. I stuck with it, as did everyone reading this, but I think it’s fair to say that the average person has similar barriers to entry. We’ve overcome them, but many, many people will not.
True, the concept of the fediverse is probably what confuses people, it’s never explained clearly. I hope it’s growth helps spread information about it, how it works and why you want it.
The app situation is getting much much better. The website UI is inferior to old reddit or the apps. I know some servers support the old reddit UI but it’s not discoverable. Stuff like expanding images needs to be easier to do instead of clicking a semi-hidden 10px square each picture.
Sync and Boost are great, though I’m still not happy with the iOS apps (I like Avalon and Mlem, but I don’t live either of them, whereas the Android apps feel fantastic).
Boost is lovely and polished and you can see that tons of work has gone into it.
Tell you what though: while I was waiting for Boost, damned if the Voyager (fka wefwef) PWA came out of nowhere with (I think) some of the nicest UX of any of the contenders, plus an insane release schedule because they can just push changes whenever. Voyager is honestly what has kept me here. (…he says, posting from Boost)
you joined early on, you had to work at understanding the fediverse. now there are plenty of places that explain everything.
Hating Reddit is the usual Reddit routine, the one you may be rewarded for with Reddit’s updoots.
They should come to Lemmy to complain about Reddit, like the rest of us.
Yup ads and posts on reddit are becoming even more indistinguishable, the “organic community” is just a selling point for marketing because you can embed yourself in it, basically just exploiting their users. The metrics to gauge ad performance is based on things that make the site shitty as well. Reddit, at least the big subs, haven’t been organic in this way for a long time, it’s basically a simulation of an organic online community at this point.
Just migrated from Reddit to Lemmy. This was my final straw.
Welcome to the club
Same. I was super frustrated with the killing off of Apollo. This is more than frustrating, it should be illegal. Oh wait, it is is some countries just not the US…
I missed it this time. I left in June.
Care to summarize what happened?
damn. well, just opt put of google personalized ads and block/isolate cookies and it’s fine. But what a weird (and greedy) thing to do of them lmao
will not result in seeing more ads or sharing on-platform activity with advertisers
…yet. We’re taking steps to limit your privacy, but don’t worry, we’re not going to do it any more. I super swear.
Lol
Thanks, although I haven’t used the boost Reddit app for a while, this is finally the final reason for me to uninstall it and never look back.
Never mind. I seen it further down.
I really hope that reddit will shut down
It won’t shut down. I see it more going the way of Yahoo - a once juggernaut that stumbles along a shell of its former self.
no, it won’t, nor will xitter of facebook. it’s delusional to think multi-billion-dollar-platforms backed by big money, the content industry and several clandestine consortiums will cease operation because a single digit percentage of users decided that some hobbyist internet platforms held together by tape and a hail marry are the future. we’ll be lucky if places like this are still around in a few years.
then it wont contain the toxic users
Not until people stop using it.
Pretty much this. As much as l love the fediverse, there’s still way too many people on reddit giving it way too much activity, especially in gaming: two of the biggest communities I’ve frequented over the course of this year are still only active on reddit.
Other platforms, like lemmy or discord, either have little to none activity on certain topics like the former, or are poorly designed and lackkng to allow its users to search for stuff properly like the latter.
These days I’m much more diverse with my Internet activity, which is good, but man I wish more people just dumped reddit, especially from the communities I needed to drop it the most.
Hell, there’s too many people on Lemmy giving reddit too much activity. I blocked a couple of bots that were literally just yanking posts from reddit. They even left the links right back to reddit giving them the actual traffic. We can do better people. If I want shitty reddit content I would just go there.
These bot posts are awful for Lemmy engagement.
People see bots posting massive amounts of content, which zero people want discuss in the comments.
There’s a couple of instances that seem to be dedicated entirely to reposting bots. Every new person who joins Lemmy either is put off by all the bot spam without users, or they have to block several dozen bots and communities to make a usable experience.
It’s no wonder it doesn’t grow any faster. I get the idea that we should take a cue from Reddit on this one, and curate a “new-user-friendly” set of default subscriptions for guests and new signups.
Or maybe defederate from nom.mom to get rid of like 75% of this nonsense.
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
I’m technically from elsewhere in the fediverse, but I’m also a Reddit migrant (back in June). Thank you for setting the community up, I’ve missed it from Reddit days
IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.
But yeah, we don’t even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps’ feed and, rarely, their browser’s default start page. They don’t choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.
I literally only switched because of Boost. Also, since Boost for Reddit still works for me, I continue to use that as well
and why would they? … they are pretty happy with what they have now.
Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who’ve setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.
My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn’t too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.
But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it’s expressing.
The meme doesn’t mention the Fediverse at all, it just calls out reddit for sucking (again).
It’s also likely that most visitors don’t go to the sub directly so the stickied post is easily missed
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15wi75l/rfuturology_is_now_in_the_fediverse_at/
It’s hard to know exactly how many people see them from the stats Reddit gives Mods. Reddit gives a figure within the post for views, which stands at about 160,000 for the post I mentioned. That includes the times people have been served the title in their feed & and the times people clicked on it (sadly Reddit doesn’t differentiate further).
The fediverse site has been going for 6 weeks and has about 620 subscribers. My guestimate from looking at addresses in comments is that maybe 100-150 are reddit migrants. So roughly speaking 1 in 1000 r/futurology people who saw something about our fediverse site were motivated to join.
A sobering thought for people who think the fediverse is about to crush reddit.
[email protected] and some others are also a good places to promote your communities.
Those sub numbers don’t include federated subscribers, from what I’ve read. And a lot of people seem to just browse All all the time and block communities they don’t want to see. Still doesn’t match any numbers in the millions, but things might be a bit more impactful than you think.
Yes, its hard to understand. On the other hand our results on cloudflare look way too good to be true. They say the fediverse site had 180K unique visitors in its first month and almost 3 million of what it calls “total requests”.
It’s hard to figure out what this means in terms of how many people on the fediverse are seeing the content, both from our site, and where its coming up in federated instances.
This is still the early adoption phase. You can’t expect all of the general populace to swap over. But it has been strong enough to start building the fedoverse into a real alternative. The “replacement” of reddit at large is far in the future.
Even the head mod of piracy subreddit was ousted from the subreddit for attempting to migrate the sub to a lemmy instance, and the redditors that remain there actually cheered! It’s wild, you would expect pirates, who always at risk of having their subreddit shut down, would understand the need to migrate.
The quality of content in /r/piracy is shit nowadays when compared to [email protected]
Those remaining were probably the leechers. Just there to find content but not give back to the community.
So, good riddance?
People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn’t care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.
There are a lot of people that are actually too dumb to change platforms and assume apps like Reddit are the actual internet.
My father had a doctorate of engineering. He was a brilliant man. When I saw him search for Google and then follow the search link to google.com, to then search on their home page, I started to tell him he should search from the address / search field in his browser. He was instantly becoming confused and so I said, “nevermind,” because his way got him satisfactory results so why bother. Some people aren’t dumb at all. They just don’t care about the same things you or I mighty enough to learn them (beyond basics).
For what it’s worth, I was on Reddit for over a decade and I think I clicked on a stickied thread from any subreddit maybe twice in that whole time. I think a lot of people’s eyes just automatically skip over them. Plus, stickied threads disappear under some sorting options. Posting the occasional meme about it might be more effective.
Literally swap the word Fediverse in that pinned post for Lemmy and you’ll get more engagement with it. Because you’re right, even if the current reddit user has heard of lemmy and mastodon, they still most likely don’t know what the fediverse is, don’t understand the site linked to is a lemmy instance / reddit alternative. Subbed to [email protected] btw, if the current activity there can be sustained I think it’ll shape up to be a nice community
I don’t even know what fediverse means
What happened this time?
Have they implemented it yet? This is literary against EU law
The subtitle of the article literally says some countries are exempt and in the article the author said they are waiting for confirmation that the EU is exempt.
It appears I suffered from “being a dumb dumb and only reading the headline” syndrome
I think it’s for the US.
Oh.
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Yes, it was 2 days ago. What happened? I don’t care enough about reddit to open it and find out myself.
Wait, I am dumb, somehow I though it’s already November…
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