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      Yeah, this seems like the kind of thing they’d try to push on Business/Pro+ users, where management is willing to fork out absurd amounts of money monthly as long as the per-seat price can be vaguely justified. Doing this for home users would just be dumb. Plenty of people would see the monthly subscription and go “eh I don’t need a computer, I can just use my phone.”

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      But… But… But… Russian propaganda! Microsoft bad, Linux good!

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    I’ve been enjoying Windows 10 with some of the shite stripped out and will probably be sticking to that for the foreseeable future. Still, cringe.

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        Or make the switch to Linux. Been running Mint on my old Dell and it’s waaaaaay snappier and better performing than Windows ever was - all for the low, low price of free!

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          idk, I’ve never been able to make it work well. always some issues with drivers. imma blame it on dell putting some shitty proprietary hardware that no ones written drivers for yet?

          I’ll try again when I build a new PC without any proprietary hardware

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            I heard more recently Linux has been making strides in driver support, so it’s making me consider Linux for my main rig. FWIW, it’s been working perfectly on my Dell laptop but that doesn’t have a dedicated GPU, only an iGPU, so I’m with you on blaming it on drivers :p

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    Y’all really need to actually click the article and read the first sentence. This has nothing to do with Windows 12, and even Neowin has clarified that right at the top in an update.

    Microsoft is a bad company, but it’s a little worrying when someone can just say some random things in a title and have it be believed without question, just because it paints Microsoft in a negative light.

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      It’s more that MS has leaned into the subscription model with Office 365 and such.

      Windows is already kind of a “Freemium” OS, so I’m expecting them to continue in that fashion. Your are right, the article is mostly pointless speculation that was refuted anyways, but I’ll admit it sounded a bit off to me anyways. MS wants people to be running Windows, so they can seem then GamePass subscriptions, Office365 subscriptions, and whatever other services they can think of. As such, I expect the core OS to be very free. Just what constitutes core functionality versus Premium features might change.

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      It is very worrying that they’ve detained destroyed their reputation so much that any negative news about them is automatically believable.

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        Let me introduce you to humans; tell them anything and at least one person will believe it. Get enough of them together and you too can have such crazy beliefs as: sky daddy is real and you make him angry, the earth is flat, the earth is a doughnut, the earth is hollow, you have 5g chips inside your body that allow you to be mind controlled, lizard people.

        Need I go on?…

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    90% of all techbro “innovation” is one or more of the following:

    “Put it on the cloud!”

    “Make it a subscription service!”

    “Put it on the blockchain!”

    “Add more surveillance!”

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      I guess I gotta be the basic bitch here.

      Try mint, particularly with their own DE, cinnamon. It really is a great overall experience. I’ve run it on something like five or six different PCs in my own home, plus two laptops. Zero issues in years. Right now, the only thing in the house that isn’t running it is my audio PC, because musicbee is a pain to get running on Linux at all.

      That’s the only downfall for Linux currently. There’s no good audio programs that are Linux native. At best, stuff like clementine and similar options are acceptable players, but they’re shit at anything else.

      My most recent laptop, it was as easy as popping in the usb drive, installing, and putting it to use. But that’s a ThinkPad, and they’re super Linux friendly. Mint has the important stuff on it to begin with, so unless you need specific programs, you’ll be functional faster than with a fresh windows install. Even if you have a handful of other programs you can’t live without, you aren’t going to run into major issues.

      Mind you, any of the other distros mentioned so far are pretty much just as plug n play too, but mint seems to play well with any hardware at all. Plus, cinnamon is such a damn nice DE

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      I’ve had a very good experience with Fedora for the past few years, but I’ve also heard good things about Endeavor OS for an Arch based experience

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      if your looking for something super beginner friendly, i would reccomend Mint (ubuntu based). if you want something slightly more work to learn, then EndevourOS (arch based, similar to manjaro), because it has Pacman and the Arch User Repository. both have good support and community, and many editions (different desktop environments preconfigured), i would recommend KDE or maybe Cinnamon (better for Mint), though it is not as big of a choice as distro (you can change DEs). KDE has a lot of awesome features out of the box, so its a great choice for beginners

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      Like the others say, Linux Mint. If you wanna spend a bunch more time configuring everything and solving issues then you can use other distros like Arch and Debian. For new users though, I suggest Linux Mint.

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    Cool, even more reason to stick with 10 as long as I can. Enshitify everything, who even cares anymore?

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    Will win 7 be the last ever usable OS from Microsoft, or will Windows 13 turn out decent? Only time will tell.

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      Win 10 was decent, perhaps better than Win 7 in many ways. It doesn’t hold a candle to Linux though. I’ve been almost entirely on Linux since Vista, and the last time I booted into Windows was last year to get Minecraft Bedrock set up for my kid so he could play with his friend (that friend flaked, so we haven’t bothered since).

      My kids have pretty much only used OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (my Linux flavor of choice) and ChromeOS (at school).

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      Now that after two long years Windows 11 exited the alpha stage and now has an usable taskbar in beta, it starts to be decent. Since they finally allowed “never combine” in the taskbar last week I’m using it as my main os and I plan to upgrade all my win 10 machines (unless on older machines because I’m not going to bother with the artificial limitations and install checks, those will just go to Linux)

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      I think we already know. It’s not the technology but the business that spoiled everything since Windows 7. Technically, Windows is probably better than ever today. But for user experience it has never been worse.

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        I could see that. It felt like a weird thing to say. Oh well. My next OS is going to be Linux if I ever get around to buying a new computer. I’ve been “doing it soon” for a few years lol.

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          You don’t necessarily need a new computer, you could get a new SSD, install Linux there and dual boot for a while.

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            Very true, but some context, I have a 3080 or 3070 GPU but a CPU from 2009 and a 5400 RPM hard drive with steam games. I’d get like 20 FPS in Elder Ring on lowest settings. My CPU has become a major bottle neck. Over the years I’ve upgraded everything else but that because that essentially means an entirely new PC

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        I reread that quote (in context) many times, and I’ve concluded that it was a poor choice of words. He meant “latest”. He was talking about Windows 10, the latest Windows OS, in a time where XP, 8, 8.1, Vista, and 7 were still maintained to some degree. I wish so much that Win10 would have been the last Windows OS…

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        I remember reading about that and it is some subscription fee to get replacements. I always wonder if someone is still paying lol

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    didn’t they say windows 10 was going to be the last version of windows? hence why they jumped to the number 10 as it’s nice and round.

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      I’m pretty sure they used 10 because 7 was build 7xxx, 8 was build 8xxx, and 8.1 was 9xxx, making at least the initial versions of 10 10xxx.

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        IMHO that’s a coincidence of the build counter. 7 was 7600, 8 was 9200 and 8.1 was 9600. Then they changed how often they redo a build, so now it’s over 23000

        But at the time of win 10 release I saw on Twitter a screenshot of a decompiled ancient Java setup that did a check “if Windows 9*”…

        Can’t find that again

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      I thought they jumped to it because ancient, poorly made software would check for Windows 9* to cover 95 and 98, and could now potentially catch windows 9 as well

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        Java was one of those poorly made software, but it seems stupid to program a check like that. What’s the chance that after Windows 98, Microsoft would release Windows 99? The check should just used the version number. If Windows 95 was 4.0 and Windows 98 was 4.1 should have done the check as “4.*” as a future compatible version could have been 4.2 (win me was 4.9) while one with so many changes that it might need a newer version of the app could have been 5.0 (windows 2000)

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      Seriously. I’ve been using Windows for years and every time I’ve tried to move it’s games that stopped me. Proton is literally a game changer. I’m not a hardcore Guild Wars 2 player but I play daily. The game ruins flawlessly with Proton.

      Valve 👏

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      VR Support is sorely lacking, though. And no, the Quest standalone is not a solution - it’s an android phone strapped to your face.

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      First of all they’re going to have to release a distro which actually has, shock horror, proprietary drivers installed on it, because your average user isn’t going to understand how to install them.

      I’ve said this a few times but no one wants to hear it, I understand why they can’t have proprietary drivers, but the fact that they don’t have them is a major reason as to why Linux isn’t more mainstream.

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        I understand why they can’t have proprietary drivers

        Who can’t have them? 90-some percent of Linux distributions make them available to those who are unfortunate enough to need them.

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        Good thing Linux ships with AMD drivers by default, no install necessary. Nvidia will have to get off their asses and make their drives less of a pile of dog shit though.

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          So some drivers are not installed like I said

          I’m not casting judgement on whether the drivers are good or not I’m merely pointing out that they’re not preinstalled and a lot of people don’t even know what a driver is.

          If Linux isn’t out of the box simple easy like Windows people are never going to switch to it no matter how terrible Microsoft become. They will go to Apple before they go to Linux.

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            Hang on…

            Some distros (mint, Ubuntu) prompt the user to install proprietary drivers during the installation process, it’s very easy.

            On Windows you have to download the latest drivers from the manufacturers website and install them manually, that’s crazy!

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            So some drivers are not installed like I said

            No, you said:

            First of all they’re going to have to release a distro which actually has, shock horror, proprietary drivers installed on it, because your average user isn’t going to understand how to install them.

            You’re moving the goalposts.