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AWS and Amazon are pretty separate as far as how they treat their employees.
AWS likely got the contract because not many cloud service providers are FedRAMP certified.
The contract the article is referring to JWCC which was a multi award contract. All of the vendors will essentially compete for the workloads under that contract throughout the entire contract.
It was created to replace JEDI which was single award and got so bogged down in legal challenges they gave up and replaced it with JWCC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Enterprise_Defense_Infrastructure
AWS also has or had the only top secret classification cloud.
go through union instead of your supervisor or manager
So they’re threatening workers with a good time? Interesting strategy.
My union dues last pay? 30 dollars. My union just got the government of Ontario, the shitbag conservatives, who tried to illegally withhold raises from us, and won. My union guarantees I get a set wage because they bargain for it.
My wife’s union costs her $8 a paycheck.
It also gave her 9 more PTO days, better healthcare, and negotiated to triple any outside-of-work calls because the company used to do a thing where they would send you home, and then call you back later. Wtf.
Typical Amazon… I hope American workers are smarter than this and don’t fall for it.
This makes me want to re-watch the based as fuck Deep Space Nine episode (Bar Association) where Quark’s bar staff go on strike.
The union dues from my last pay period was $32.
My pay and benefits were hard fought for and won by my union, including back pay through arbitration when we got stiffed on pay for a particular part of our job for a few years.
When I have a problem, I go to my supervisor. Usually things get fixed. If they don’t want to fix it, I go to my union rep and things usually get fixed fast. If they don’t, I go to my union grievance officer and things definitely get fixed fast. The last thing my supervisor wants to do is deal with the union rep, let alone the grievance officer, so having those 2 backing me up goes a VERY LONG WAY over just dealing with my supervisor by myself.
Don’t believe the propaganda from people with a vested interest against your rights as an employee…
100 percent true. Going to the union is the last thing I want any of my people to do. It just complicates things.
Fortunately, I and my fellow supervisors are all union members too and we all know and are on good terms with the union officers down at the hall, so even if someone does go straight to them, it’s usually worked out with a phone call. The key is to be fair and not be a dick.
Dues deduct from your paycheck
So does every other subscription “service.”, but we don’t talk about the vileness of a Netflix subscription do we?
No guarantees on pay, benefits, or work rules
This is just a lie. I cannot find another angle to it.
Even without a union, there is no guarantees on pay, benefits, or work rules. So the point is moot. It’s like saying “Anything is possible” and walking away like you said something sagely.
Typically must go through union instead of your supervisor or manager
Most people wouldn’t understand why this matters unless you’ve been apart of a job where your manager has defended you against your supervisors. Very few people have had this happen, but the idea is that you will have people that DEFEND YOU from your supervisors getting power hungry.
It’s not even like your supervisor can’t bring accusations against you, it just means that complaints would have to have merit.
Should I subscribe to Amazon Prime?
- Fees deduct from your paycheck
- Delivery not always any faster
- You see fewer ads but we spy on you anyway
- No guarantees of the words “One-Day Shipping” having any relation to reality
Must go through Amazon instead of retailer’s own website
Wait wait, you PAY your unions in the US??? I thought I already heard all
Yes. Union staff needs to make a living too. It’s also how we pay members when we strike.
My union is also in Canada. How do you do it in your country?In Spain, union staff is company staff. They get paid by the company. There are some rules about how much staff time a union gets depending on company size. If I remember properly it was about 1 full time employee per every 80 workers.
For striking, in Spain people just take the cut of that day or, depending on the sector, there are arrangements where workers strike and company still pays the same. Usually transport workers.
Interesting.
It sounds like you have a completely different system from that which exists in the Anglophone countries.
Here in the US and Canada we would never dream of having our union reps on the payroll of ownership.
That makes zero sense since it would mean that they would be relying on our signatory contractors for their paycheck when what we want is precisely the opposite; an independent union that can bargain on behalf of the membership
Having our unions funded and paid for by the membership is precisely the point since it means that it’s our union, not the company’s.
But us unions are some of the weakest in the civilized world. Maybe that system doesn’t work that well?
Surprised this brazenly says to vote no. Usually telling people how to vote is the line they dance around with all the negative “facts”
Always love it when the people in charge know something is bad for THEM but good for US and they just throw a tasteful graphic spouting some bullshit on a page to change minds. They did this in Columbus about Issue 1 like a month ago, saying how upping the Majority Vote to 60% for state bills was just a good thing, even though it was just to prepare for issue 1 in November to repeal backwards ass Abortion Laws. It was obvious too since it was like all the pamphlet talked about
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There are some serious issues with unions. For instance sometimes workers are tricked into signing papers that allow the union to have control over the worker. I’m not condoning Amazon but to say Unions aren’t always great.
As always you should make up your own mind
What kind of fucked up unions do you have there? Unions are there to help the worker by negotiating better pay, vacation days, etc. It’s like your local political representative that actually does things you want and gives you money when you’re on strike.
That’s a lie
Fuck off Jeff
Why sleep in cotton sheets on a spring mattress for $1 in dues when we can offer this manure-soaked bed of straw for only $5 in wage theft?
Exactly how soaked?
This much
Given how big a shitshow Amazon is, both in fulfillment and corporate, I’m shocked that they weren’t the first tech company to fully unionise.
Well, I say that knowing that there are lots of people that are extremely anti-union, even those that have suffered due to RTO/RTT, or Amazon’s infamous PIP culture.
And I say this knowing that Amazon workers could happily form a union with 250k workers, and Amazon would happily fire them without a thought, even if it actively harmed them.
I’m from France where unions are kinda everywhere and workers rights well protected : what the hell is this ? Is it real ?
It’s real. Welcome to America! We rebrand the idea of slavery every 100 years or so to great success!
In Spain it’s mandatory to have unions for companies with at least 10 employees.
Dunno if this image specifically is real, but anti-union stuff is common in the US.
I worked this one job where a couple of the employees tried to unionize. It had gotten far enough where there was going to be a vote.
Well the company sent this snake woman around that personally gave almost everyone one on one talks to convince them that unions are bad and they should vote “no” on unionizing.
For some reason none of my coworkers took even a second to wonder why the company was so hell bent on getting everyone to vote “no” that they set up one on one personal meetings with some random anti-union lady.
Yeah, enough people voted “no” that we didn’t get to unionize…
The one other thing I will say that was a bit baffling was that at a prior job I was working minimum wage and it had a union where I had to pay union dues. Wtf was the union doing where I was making less than minimum wage?? Not much apparently.
Fellow French - wait until you realize their unions only apply to one company and not a whole industry so they can’t actually do anything on a large scale. This broke me.
Can’t say if this particular one is real but this definitely tracks in the USA. I’ve worked for companies that have mandatory meetings where anti union consultants will play out this kind of propaganda in real time.
