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  • GrandChicken@sopuli.xyz
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    2 年前

    I figure its fair to charge for access if you pay the moderators and the contributors.

    Seems like they are taking over the moderator roles now, by force. Maybe the mods will also be the main contributors soon?

  • remi_pan@sh.itjust.works
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    2 年前

    Like the author of this paper said, for me it’s not really about third party apps. The problem is that reddit try to monetize a content that is our collective property.

    • nude@kbin.social
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      2 年前

      Is it our property though?

      Intellectually speaking yes, but legally speaking? Probably not. Chances are if its stored on their servers, it belongs to them.

      • ___hulk@kbin.social
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        2 年前

        Legally, currently, yeah. Needs to change though. I’m ok with monetizing the presentation and delivery but if you want to use collective property you should still have to make that available as part of the deal.

        • Parallax@kbin.social
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          2 年前

          Replacing “comment” with “artwork” kind of helps illustrate it. If we all made tons of artwork for Reddit, then they started gating it behind a paywall and while painters and all the behind-the-scenes painting staff earned nothing – well that’s kinda where we are today.

  • ZeroEcks@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 年前

    I am not sure I agree entirely with this, while I do think there should be third party clients, we have entered the age where allowing API access is giving free reign to very valuable LLMs to train on your data, which also IMO violates your users privacy. I think it’s better to have it be gratis but not libre, perhaps some kind of app approval process or some such.

    • PenguinTD@lemmy.ca
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      2 年前

      I think it’s possible to have a middle ground, just by putting properly formed license terms like foss projects. Ie. Specify that the AI/bot must be following certain rules(ie, fetch the comments but not the user IDs), because if we don’t provide data for open and free alternative, there will be no good AI tools for common folks. And the top dogs are all hoarding data with sneaky ToS.

  • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦@rblind.comEnglish
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    2 年前

    I also think it is the greater good to let AIs train for free.

    I’m not entirely sure about this. Freely available AI’s, sure, maybe. But corporate closed source AI’s that charge per token? I’m not saying no, but I’d love to hear someone justify the thinking behind why this is “the greater good”.