youtube getting more aggressive… i’ve got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I gave up and got premium. It actually works out because we’ve cancelled Disney+ and Paramount+ and switched from the Spotify family plan to the Youtube Premium family plan and we’re saving money, but I’m annoyed that I’ve resorted to this.

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      1 year ago

      I actually don’t mind subscription services in general. I would rather pay a monthly fee and not get any ads.

      The issue is of course with Google is that your subscription cost is not only the money you pay per month. You’re also giving them your data and many YouTubers end up putting ads inside their videos anyways.

      Really what we need is a sort of Peertube service with a model that uses ads and optional subscription service (to remove ads) to generate revenue.

      This revenue would first pay for all expenses to run the service and then the remainder be split between all content creators relative to how many views or subscribers each content creator manages get.

      The issue with current Peertube is that video hosting is expensive. Video hosting at scale is even more so. However, with enough subscribers the math starts to even out. I don’t know at what # this becomes viable.

      Open source and transparent services ran by non-profits

      I would be more than happy to pay a subscription for this. I donate regularly to lichess and Wikipedia for this reason. We need to support these projects because they’re the only viable path forward, I believe, that doesn’t end in inevitable enshittification.

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        1 year ago

        many YouTubers end up putting ads inside their videos anyways

        Sponsorblock plugin for firefox?

  • some pirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    What happen if you simply use opera or brave? The default anti tracking functionality normally triggers these protections, it blocks you just for browsing a certain browser? Without even having any adblock plugin

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      1 year ago

      So far, opera, firefox, vivaldi brave’s ad blockers both with ublock origin have been blocking ads without getting any popup for me.

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        Under Article 5(3) of 2002/58/EC YouTube are legally obligated to obtain consent before storing or accessing information already stored on an end user’s terminal equipment unless it is strictly necessary for the provisions of the requested service.

        In 2016 the EU Commission confirmed in writing that adblock detection requires consent.

  • Fushi@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    For some reason, I got this popup but I didnt care which then blocked my player but I tried several different adblockers simultaneously which made the ads not play but there was a black screen for 5 seconds or so when the ad should’ve played but then I installed adguard, which after that no matter what I did on youtube, didn’t get any ad anywhere or the popup, with the ad blockers on or off .

    Using Vivialdi btw

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    1 year ago

    I just got blocked by YouTube on LibreWolf today but not Firefox. The ad blocking related extensions I have are uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger and Malwarebytes. After 15 minutes of resetting uBlock Origin settings, I’ve decided to try turning them off one by one, I found that it was Malwarebytes that triggered it. Even when I whitelisted Youtube but it didn’t work, I have to disable the extension to fix it. It looks like it isn’t YouTube don’t want you using adblocks, it’s YouTube don’t want you to block scams and malwares.

  • HonorIsDead@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I found I could visaully block the pop up and use keyboard controls to still play a video. It did break navigating the page though because while I couldn’t see it popup it was still there.

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    1 year ago

    Happened to me a the other day, so i used piped instead, yesterday my muscle memory got me back to YouTube and everything was back to normal

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        1 year ago

        If they don’t make money, YouTube will get shut down, and we’ll lose the archive of past videos.

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        1 year ago

        ehh, youtube is barely profitable, you can tell when it is because they make a big stink about it being profitable! in investor stuff. and then they go quiet the next year.

        google absolutely doesn’t need more money, but youtube doesn’t really make money. also creators struggle more to get paid these days. I don’t really think googles solution here is the right one, it’ll just drive people away. But getting free stuff forever, and never watching an ad, in this case just hurts small content creators

        google will go on even if youtube shuts down.

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          Remember the days when people posted videos just to post videos and share them and not expect to make money from them? I do. In fact, I’m old enough to remember the entire Internet operating this way. Before Google existed.

          Now almost everybody goes into content creation with dollar signs as their motivation. Even people that don’t do shit but just sit and talk in front of a mic or play video games expect to get paid.

          • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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            Yes, I remember that. “Content creator” was not a concept that existed. Just private people uploading funny or informative shit to the intrawebs without any form of production past maybe that WMP newspaper preset lol

            The first instance that introduced me to the content creator mindset was justin.tv, the predecessor of Twitch. Not saying that was the first glimpse of that, just the first time I noticed.

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            I’m also old enough to remember that this is a bullshit memory. Everyone was finding ways to get paid even back then. No one is producing endless content for your free consumption for the shits and giggles.

            People sold dvds and merch, and most ran off youtube like blip.tv because you could make money that way. When youtube finally enabled monitisation, people were so excited because they could finally get off these terrible alternatives.

            Maybe you are thinking about the late 90s? I was there for that too. That was all funded by the dot com bubble, people got paid. No one wants to entertain you for free. You aren’t so special.

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              You’re telling me people were getting paid for their Geocities pokemon fansites and shit like that? Shit, I for sure missed out on that opportunity.

              I don’t remember getting paid for running an entire phpBB forum in my basement for three years in the early 2000s either. I have some stuff out there I’m STILL not getting paid for, just check my profile. Entire electronics schematics, created by myself and free of charge.

              Unlike your statement, some people actually DO want to give things out for free.

              You’re also literally on a social media site largely run by donations and the willingness of the admins to continue doing it.

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                1 year ago

                Good news, people, do what you are describing. You literally described it. But also some people make things for money, a lot do. And a lot did in the past too.

                You’re contradicting yourself here so you’re gonna need to define better what you are actually mad about

        • danque@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I watched all the ads when they started. I installed an adblocker when the ads became more of a nuisance than a short break. It is always a service problem always.

          • echo64@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            I think the problem here is that the ads you saw earlier weren’t bringing in enough money. Let’s not forget that the model here is tv which has several minutes of ads every ten to fifteen minutes. A single 15 second skippable ad doesn’t really make it work out.

            Realisticly I just don’t think the ad supported model works anymore, but also people won’t pay, you went from ad supported to blocking instead of paying at least.

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          1 year ago

          They could restructure executive pay and be more profitable. Throwing ads in it seems like the lazy way to turn a profit, but it IS Google and that IS what they do.

          • echo64@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            whilst I would normally be in agreement with this kind of thing, youtube is just one of those services that is incredibly expensive to run. over 500 hours of content are uploaded to youtube every minute, all of which needs to be re-encoded to multiple formats and resolutions, and then served on a super wide CDN - as well as all the other 500 hours of content uploaded every minute for the past decade

            They could cut every youtube exec to 0 pay and it wouldn’t make a dent in the costs

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            Executive pay makes up up a much much smaller portion of business expenses than people think. I crunched some numbers for Lowes a while back after they got featured in story about CEO pay, and if you simply vaporized the CEO and redistributed his pay, Lowes employees would get an hourly raise of two cents.

            And there are a hell of a lot more YouTubers than there are Lowes workers. Executive pay really is not the unlimited money pot people think it is.

        • bstix@feddit.dk
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          I’d say that the monetization is what hurts small content creators.

          Content creators ought to make videos to present their ideas using visual and audio when that is the best media to do so. However most just make videos to make money.

          Small content creators who don’t monetize their content don’t get shown. Instead it’s all clickbait through and through to get those nickels.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    Currently with Firefox uBlock and am getting no pop-ups for three days now (this after pop-up nags with a five-second delay).

    Not saying you are not having trouble, but I think this is a fight YouTube is going to lose.

    • 31337@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I think they are A/B testing to see how people react. I have gotten pop-ups and my coworker wasn’t getting them while having the same IP address. I haven’t gotten the “x videos left” popup yet. I think it’d be pretty easy for youtube to make ad blocking very hard; they’re just testing the waters right now.