Tesla warns that a federal probe into whether it exaggerated the range of its cars may lead to a ‘material adverse impact on our business’::Earlier this year, Reuters reported that Tesla had created a special “diversions team” to avoid dealing with complaints from customers about their vehicle ranges. 

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      I dunno. The musky chodelet has avoided consequences for his actions so far. I doubt there will be any significant change or punishment for tesla.

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        What is a single thing about Twitter that has gotten better? Selling my Tesla for an electric Mustang was the best choice I’ve made in a while.

        I don’t give really a shit about him, but from the dropoff in Twitter’s usage and value to production and publicity issues at Tesla and cutting off the Ukraine army’s access to Starlink, it seems there’s, well, a lot to hate about him. And like he might not be that good at his job.

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          The starlink thing is a bit more complicated then that. https://apnews.com/article/spacex-ukraine-starlink-russia-air-force-fde93d9a69d7dbd1326022ecfdbc53c2

          Tldr: Starlink had been providing Ukraine Starlink access for free and specifically didn’t allow them to use it in Crimea only. They weren’t under a military contract or anything that would have required them to do so and I can definitely see the perspective that it would be a bigger step as Crimea is contested land in a different way than Ukraine as a whole.

          When Russia took over Crimea, they did it in such a way that it wasn’t a full invasion and was cloaked in “the people voted to be part of Russia” though we know there were many shenanigans afoot such as a “not Russian” military presence and it’s pretty obvious it was in response to the Revolution of Dignity within Ukraine.

          Anyway, the US didn’t provide Ukraine with weapons or anything like that to defend themselves from Russia at that point (which, to be fair it wasn’t even close to the same situation as when Russia actually invaded Ukraine) though they did slap a bunch of sanctions on Russia and wagged their finger at them.

          So Crimea is a bit of a different situation and the US govt had been pretty clear at that time that Ukraine should only be using the US provisions for defensive purposes, not for attacking Russia, which Crimea could be construed as being part of Russia. Not to mention at the time Russia was very much threatening nuclear war.

          Ultimately, it’s a much more complicated situation then a lot of people prefer to actually discuss and instead will immediately label you an Elon lover or Russian apologist or Tankies or w/e if you don’t pretend it’s a black and white good/bad situation.

          For example, Ukraine does literally have a Nazi batallion in their military, (Azov) and the US is indirectly funding and providing them with weapons with very little oversight. I think that’s wrong and should be called out, however pretty much any discussion of that in the MSM or by people of congress gets you labeled a Putin supporter or Russian propagandist.

          For an even more recent example, look at what’s been going on in Israel/Palestine over the past several decades. Israel has systematically fucked over the Palestinian people, which has bred a far right terroristic group (Hamas) and lead to thousands upon thousands of deaths on both sides (but mostly Palestinians) and you have people on MSM calling for basically genocide of the Palestinians and Jewish celebrities claiming persecution if you don’t agree with every word of the Israel line, yet even the Israeli citizens don’t agree with what their government has been doing.

          There’s so much gray and mess in these situations but instead of thoughtfully look at the underlying causes and potential real reasons these things are happening (it’s not just because Musk sucks, Putin sucks, and Hamas sucks, and the Israeli government sucks, though they do don’t get me wrong) everyone just picks a team and ignores any truthful pushback.

          I ended up writing way more then I intended to, my b.

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        as someone who makes an appropriate income enough to afford a Tesla

        7h old account that posts nothing but inflammatory comments. I guess shitposting is paying 6 figures nowadays?

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    “…But investigating my frauding will affect my ability to continue profiting off my fraud.”

    -Elon probably

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    Cry more you little incompetent trust fund shit. (Elon, not OP)

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    This is an SEC filing. They are required to disclose to investors that this is going on and could impact their investment. Pretty standard stuff. They are not complaining that the feds are hurting their business or scaring people away from buying their cars - at least not in this filing. All they are saying is there’s this significant thing going on that could have an impact on the company’s value.

    It would probably be smart for Tesla to settle this quickly and quietly because their range estimates are completely bonkers. Some kind of “agree to disagree on testing methods and we will pay up and do a better job” thing without this going too far. A VW diesel-gate kind of situation would be devastating to them. Elon is such a polarizing figure to begin with and there are some pretty good EV alternatives out there now. The only real killer feature they have left is the Supercharger network. Before anyone says FSD, it’s a scam and it doesn’t work.

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      A VW diesel-gate kind of situation would be devastating to them.

      Dieselgate is estimated to have killed 5,000 people per year in Europe alone (and they were selling those cars worldwide).

      There is a big difference between lying about how far your car will go on a charge and releasing toxic (and illegal) chemicals into the air while the car is driving… especially when the car has the capability to capture those chemicals but the system was deliberately disabled in software unless the car was being tested.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Tesla says it has received requests for information and subpoenas from the US Department of Justice related to potential personal benefits violations, the advertised range of its vehicles and personnel decisions.

    The Wall Street Journal in September reported that federal prosecutors are investigating perks provided to Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk going back as far back as 2017, including a project described as a glass house for Musk.

    Earlier this year, Reuters reported that Tesla had created a special “diversions team” to avoid dealing with complaints from customers about their vehicle ranges.

    The filing warned of “the possibility of a material adverse impact on our business” should the government pursue an enforcement action.

    The subpoenas add to a mounting number of government probes into the electric-vehicle maker.

    In September, the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sued Tesla alleging that it has been “tolerating widespread and ongoing racial harassment of its Black employees” at its Fremont, California, plant.


    The original article contains 196 words, the summary contains 155 words. Saved 21%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    To put some numbers on it…

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzvvWJHrBS82echMVJH37kwgjE/edit#gid=866693557

    I don’t think anyone in the US tests EV like TeslaBjorn to make a spreadsheet about it, although I guess you could find out the EPA ranges of all those cars, convert km to miles, and get a reasonable one… percentages would be different as WLTP is a different test (it tends to exaggerate ranges, so will be higher, although nothing like the clusterfuck that NEDC was).

    Polestar must be worried too.

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    Fortune once again sterilizing the headline.

    if they didn’t want to report the uncomfortable facts, they could just choose to not report anything.