This is how I approach these: that square only has a single traffic light, not multiple traffic lights like the prompt is asking for
The ones that get me are captchas saying select all squares with motorcycles when it is clearly a bicycle.
There was an inflection point where captcha went from “demonstrate human vision” to “guess what the robot sees.”
I got one asking for mountain ranges where one was plainly the tops of nearby trees. Which I got scolded for not clicking on.
They must have increased the difficulty at one point cause I ain’t kidding, I cannot solve them anymore. I swear to god I donit correctly but it never works.
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Same, I had to login to steam by solving one of these and I just couldn’t… Not sure why it’s so difficult all of a sudden
That could happen when the system has already flagged you as unwanted traffic. It just keeps giving you Captchas to solve until you eventually give up voluntarily.
They do that on purpose, as an AI/Bot wouldn’t hesitate.
Sometimes I’ll be stuck on a captcha because I’m answering too fast, so I’ll wait a delay then hit the answer and suddenly it stops going in circles
I thought the reason is they want to see the limits of what a human considers qualify as answer to their question in order to better train their AI?
Edit: Although I guess nothing is stopping the answer from being Porque No los Dos?
I mean it could absolutely be both. There’s assumedly a lot that goes into these algorithms and most of it we will never know for sure, just make educated speculation lol
In my experience the least thorough interpretation seems to be the most accepted.
I hate these captcha. You look at the picture, the edge of the traffic light or the motorcycle goes outside the box. You decide to click on the square where this tiny part of the image is and the message “This is incorrect!”.
Captcha without images from Cloudflare is even more infuriating. The so-called “Connection reliability check” takes quite a long time and this captcha appears often.
I had one of the old fashioned distorted text ones the other day, but instead of something like “please enter the text above” it just said “are you human?” next to the text box. Naturally, I typed “yes” but that turned out to be the wrong answer.
The correct answer is “or are you dancer?”
I still don’t know whether you’re supposed to hit those and I also don’t know if it’s normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.
Isn’t it normal to get something like 6 challenges?
And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won’t notice before clicking continue, thus failing
Oh I usually get the green checkmark without any captcha.
It depends on the website you are visiting, whether you are loged in on Google and how much cookies you allow and a lot more. Also using Chrome may help because it collects more data.
Sometimes loging out of Google also helps.
The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.
I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.
I think you should do what the majority of people would do
This has been memed about forever, no one knows what the majority does.
AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.
That was in text captcha days
I vaguely remember 4chan figuring out something to do with which was the control and which the variable and deciding to spam solving the control correctly but the variable with some kind of nonsense (knowing 4chan probably a slur) until the system got enough confirmation that it got moved to the control group and would accept I it there
It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.
It probably checks your answer against the current model’s best guess and if it’s close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.
Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.
I do that and as long as it’s not too outlandish it lets me through.
It doesn’t really matter, they don’t expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.
and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human
which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it’ll let me through… I can’t be that bad at doing them lol
Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.
Have you tried using an automatic CAPTCHA solver (e.g. Buster)?
I will have to look into this as well
Yup, as soon as I moved to a privacy-focused browser, pi-hole, and VPN, I started getting a ton more captchas and they had many more in a row.
I consider it a badge of honor.
I also started getting way more once I moved from chrome to Firefox.
I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha’s
it’s infuriating
I’m convinced the person that put it together has never touched a faster-paced mouse+keyboard game in their life, because clicking all the correct squares too fast also causes the test to fail
That’s what a bot would say /s
But you’re right, the UX sucks, and there are other ways to detect and limit bots that don’t impact legitimate users as much - but Google needs to train their AI, and developers need to cargo cult stuff.
Nah, you’re a robot man. We caught you.
I’m Kilroy.
just as what the wise Mahatma Gandhi, when faced with similar allegations, would say before summarily nuking all opposition: “GG EZ”
These things feel like they are made by microsoft. You click somewhere, wait 3-10 seconds and then you can click again.
A bot trying to solve the captcha would be very fast so it makes sense that they block fast solvers.
A bot would be exactly as fast as possible, while staying below the detection threshold.
These are actually checking if you are a bot btw, so to pass them more quickly just don’t move like a bot would. Do shit a bot wouldnt do like clicking and unclicking something, swirl your cursor around the screen, etc.
Also answer these kind of wrong to fuck with AI
Chaotic good?
That’s the frame of the lights so no
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What I hate so much more are the OpenAI captchas. Especially the goddamn rat ones
It’s the text ones for me. I struggle to read the font on some of them so I can’t tell the difference between a capital letter or a lowercase one so now if they’ve the text reader for blind/partially sighted people I’ll use that.
I had much (not) fun with the ones on the Sony/Playstation page.
Somezhibg with alligning a 3d object with a specified direction.Huh?
I believe you haven’t met the Yandex Captcha. I don’t know anyone who passed that.
Same shit with bikes. Is the rider part of the bike or not?
Consindering that we’re training Ai to be safe on the roads i would say the rider is the most vital part.
Answer wrong. The more of us humans that answer wrong, the less accurate we need to be to get past these stupid things. If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.
If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.
They kinda do. This is the way the “free” model of internet services works. One of the reasons I think we should probably switch to expecting services to either be paid or non-profit, rather than ad/data-supported.
Yeah, but the whole point of offering free services was just a ploy to crush competition with shorter runways to profit. Google could just sustain "free"services longer than their competitors could remain solvent.
Now that they’ve run most of their competitors into the ground, and now that people and businesses have become dependent on these services. They can bank off advertising and monetizing services with subscriptions.
Google business accounts used to be free, now you have to pay 9 bucks a month per employee, and you are subjected to even more advertising. Neither advertising nor subscriptions are going anywhere, especially now that subscription plans are so normalized.
That might have been the point. It’s also saved me countless hours of my life being able to navigate anywhere at any time with step by step instructions on how to get there.
There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far
There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far
Right… But people don’t get upset about monopolies because they don’t create value. They get upset because they eliminate competition and choice.
I unwittingly do that all the time. It often takes me 30+ Captchas before I finally get in. Then I’ve forgotten what the hell I was doing in the first place.
This is what “AI training” looks like, folks. The companies developing AI constantly tells us how awesome it is, but it still needs the help of humans to recognize basic sh*t like cars, buses, crosswalks and traffic lights. They didn’t choose those images by accident.
I keep expecting blurry images of protestors or human shaped blobs huddling behind cover with some kind of crosshair over them
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Try the audio captcha, those seem to have actual valid answers to them.
Funny enough, there’s an extension that solves captchas by feeding that audio through a speech recognition algorithm. If anything it’s more reliable than solving them manually
Yes, Buster Captcha Solver extension (in GitHub, Firefox, Chromium), but there are novadays also several others, which works in all type of capchas, using AI. Because of this, Captchas are obsolet since years, turning simply in annoying clickbaits. They can’t avoid bots anymore.
It makes me sad its not under active dev anymore. Last update to Firefox DEC 2022
Well, but still works fine in reCaptchas (these are also not updated since a long time) I think it’s still valid, if you don’t use it frequently. If not, as said before, there are several alternatives which work with AI,