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    This is how I approach these: that square only has a single traffic light, not multiple traffic lights like the prompt is asking for

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    The ones that get me are captchas saying select all squares with motorcycles when it is clearly a bicycle.

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      There was an inflection point where captcha went from “demonstrate human vision” to “guess what the robot sees.”

      I got one asking for mountain ranges where one was plainly the tops of nearby trees. Which I got scolded for not clicking on.

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    They must have increased the difficulty at one point cause I ain’t kidding, I cannot solve them anymore. I swear to god I donit correctly but it never works.

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      01001000 01101001 00100000 01100110 01100101 01101100 01101100 01101111 01110111 00100000 01110010 01101111 01100010 01101111 01110100

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      Same, I had to login to steam by solving one of these and I just couldn’t… Not sure why it’s so difficult all of a sudden

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      That could happen when the system has already flagged you as unwanted traffic. It just keeps giving you Captchas to solve until you eventually give up voluntarily.

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    They do that on purpose, as an AI/Bot wouldn’t hesitate.

    Sometimes I’ll be stuck on a captcha because I’m answering too fast, so I’ll wait a delay then hit the answer and suddenly it stops going in circles

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      I thought the reason is they want to see the limits of what a human considers qualify as answer to their question in order to better train their AI?

      Edit: Although I guess nothing is stopping the answer from being Porque No los Dos?

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        I mean it could absolutely be both. There’s assumedly a lot that goes into these algorithms and most of it we will never know for sure, just make educated speculation lol

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    I hate these captcha. You look at the picture, the edge of the traffic light or the motorcycle goes outside the box. You decide to click on the square where this tiny part of the image is and the message “This is incorrect!”.

    Captcha without images from Cloudflare is even more infuriating. The so-called “Connection reliability check” takes quite a long time and this captcha appears often.

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    I had one of the old fashioned distorted text ones the other day, but instead of something like “please enter the text above” it just said “are you human?” next to the text box. Naturally, I typed “yes” but that turned out to be the wrong answer.

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    I still don’t know whether you’re supposed to hit those and I also don’t know if it’s normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.

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      Isn’t it normal to get something like 6 challenges?

      And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won’t notice before clicking continue, thus failing

      • Johanno@feddit.de
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        Oh I usually get the green checkmark without any captcha.

        It depends on the website you are visiting, whether you are loged in on Google and how much cookies you allow and a lot more. Also using Chrome may help because it collects more data.

        Sometimes loging out of Google also helps.

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        The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.

        I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.

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      AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.

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          I vaguely remember 4chan figuring out something to do with which was the control and which the variable and deciding to spam solving the control correctly but the variable with some kind of nonsense (knowing 4chan probably a slur) until the system got enough confirmation that it got moved to the control group and would accept I it there

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        It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

        It probably checks your answer against the current model’s best guess and if it’s close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.

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          Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

          I do that and as long as it’s not too outlandish it lets me through.

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      It doesn’t really matter, they don’t expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.

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        and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human

        which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it’ll let me through… I can’t be that bad at doing them lol

        Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.

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        I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha’s

        it’s infuriating

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        I’m convinced the person that put it together has never touched a faster-paced mouse+keyboard game in their life, because clicking all the correct squares too fast also causes the test to fail

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    These are actually checking if you are a bot btw, so to pass them more quickly just don’t move like a bot would. Do shit a bot wouldnt do like clicking and unclicking something, swirl your cursor around the screen, etc.

    Also answer these kind of wrong to fuck with AI

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    Answer wrong. The more of us humans that answer wrong, the less accurate we need to be to get past these stupid things. If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

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      If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

      They kinda do. This is the way the “free” model of internet services works. One of the reasons I think we should probably switch to expecting services to either be paid or non-profit, rather than ad/data-supported.

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        Yeah, but the whole point of offering free services was just a ploy to crush competition with shorter runways to profit. Google could just sustain "free"services longer than their competitors could remain solvent.

        Now that they’ve run most of their competitors into the ground, and now that people and businesses have become dependent on these services. They can bank off advertising and monetizing services with subscriptions.

        Google business accounts used to be free, now you have to pay 9 bucks a month per employee, and you are subjected to even more advertising. Neither advertising nor subscriptions are going anywhere, especially now that subscription plans are so normalized.

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          That might have been the point. It’s also saved me countless hours of my life being able to navigate anywhere at any time with step by step instructions on how to get there.

          There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far

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            There was a lot of value produced for a lot of people by google maps so far

            Right… But people don’t get upset about monopolies because they don’t create value. They get upset because they eliminate competition and choice.

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      I unwittingly do that all the time. It often takes me 30+ Captchas before I finally get in. Then I’ve forgotten what the hell I was doing in the first place.

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    This is what “AI training” looks like, folks. The companies developing AI constantly tells us how awesome it is, but it still needs the help of humans to recognize basic sh*t like cars, buses, crosswalks and traffic lights. They didn’t choose those images by accident.

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      I keep expecting blurry images of protestors or human shaped blobs huddling behind cover with some kind of crosshair over them

      PLEASE CLICK ON ALL SQUARES WITH ENEMY COMBATANTS TARGETS PERSONS

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    Try the audio captcha, those seem to have actual valid answers to them.

    Funny enough, there’s an extension that solves captchas by feeding that audio through a speech recognition algorithm. If anything it’s more reliable than solving them manually