• magnetosphere@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    “It’s only illegal if you get caught” has been the unofficial motto of governments since forever, so it’s only fair for citizens to think that way too, right?

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    11 months ago

    What I want to know is it illegal if you travel to another country and break a law that would be illegal in your country but isn’t a law where you’re traveling.

    In Canada legal drinking age is 19 in the states its 21. So is it illegal if a 19 year old american is drinking in Canada.

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      No, you only need to abide by the laws of your locality. Just like within your own country in different states or counties. I can’t buy alcohol on Sunday morning in my town, but I can if I drive to the next town over.

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        OK but let’s say its a horrible crime like murder. Let’s say elon musk creates a dumb fucking nation in the middle of the sea. Imagine he builds a floating poonton with a flag and a dell computer in the corner dangerously close to the edge and declares murder is legal. So some guy drives their tesla out there, murders a bunch of other idiots and drives back. Is the country just letting them back in?

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        Though especially in states with abortion bans, people are working to challenge this.

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      I saw warnings in Singapore that it was illegal for their citizens to do drugs, even when in a foreign country. I’m not sure if/how they actually enforce that though

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        Failing a drug test gets you prison time and they randomly drug test people in airports.

        Many years ago, I seem to remember that failing a drug test in South Dakota could also get you 180 days in prison but that no longer seems to be the case and I can’t find a source saying if that really was on the books or not.

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    Let’s burn down McDonalds, we’ll go whole hog!

    Tomorrow is Sunday, there gonna be some parades. Back at my house, i got some grenades!

    I got the black belt, you got the gun! Team up tonight, have some fun!

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      Politics is all about the distribution of the legitimate use of violence. It’s where governments get their authority from, it’s a part of every political ideology. The real question is what is the violence for, where is it directed, and who’s doing it? The status quo under neoliberalism is incredibly violent but that doesn’t seem to bother you. What’s up with that?

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              I mean it’s a pretty standard and very brief summary of political power dynamics so I guess someone somewhere in the sov cit movement has probably said something like that at some point. Fascists, liberals, communists, anarchists, and whatever other politocal ideology you can think of has stated this in some fashion. It’s extremely basic political theory

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                  Theory isn’t going to get you out of your DUI. It’s a framework for building and applying ideologies. Spend 5 minutes in a pol sci 101 class and you’ll probably hear it there too. Sov cits are wack as shit and have more in common with classic liberalism, mercantilism and methamphetamine induced psychosis than they do any serious political framework. Their entire argument is based on British common law and archaic maritime laws lol