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Why one silo to a worse one
This is how social media sites die. Not with big protests, but people and communities quietly moving away. Reddit won’t die at once in an explosion; it will be a slow, quiet process. Same with Twitter.
Exactly.
The protest wasn’t supposed to be about causing problems, it was supposed to be about making a point. That’s what people who opposed the protests never understood. Including Reddit.
They kept saying “oh it’ll calm down and then everyone will come back to the site”, well, it did calm down, but only because people decided they couldn’t be bothered with them anymore. Since there were always other options, people went there. (God only knows why that didn’t occur to the likes of Spez)
‘We started as a unique service and people flocked towards us when digg died. It won’t happen again, as there is no alternative.’
He only forgot that when there is no alternative that is exactly what a company offers, people will either crate one or find something else that’s either good enough or even better. Companies don’t die because they do stupid things, they die because the users/customers are fed up with them. Just look at the banks, where people withdraw their cash and leave, digg that caused an exodus to reddit, Reddit exodus to kbin/lemmy and now even Discord.
When I look at R/CSRRacing2, the main contributer went almost silent after half june, the place to be now is one of the 2 discord servers. (even though I created [email protected] , which is totally quiet) The DIscord servers for that game totally embraced the forum function for the event info, but chat is used for the immediate questions. Biggest advantage, getting the same question over and ver isn’t to bad, as they scroll out of the window fast enough. ;)
To loosely quote Jean Rasczak: “You’re it, until you’re dead or I find someone better.”
Trading one master for another, I see.
I don’t think discord is the way forward. Lemmy on web is awesome but the app on mobile needs a lot of work to be remotely good.
There are already multiple mobile clients in development and they made quite huge jumps already.
I’m currently using connect on Android, but also Jerboa saw massive development progress - although I would wish, they would test their updates more, because there seemed to be always some kind of regression.
But didn’t try it for some time now, maybe this already changedI go to Discord for very different reasons than to Lemmy/Reddit. Lemmy allows any arbitrary number of parallel dicussions on specific topics, the same cannot be said for what’s essentially a bundle of chat rooms.
Discord even with forums category is not meant for discover new content and search.
What the fuck is wrong with those people and their fetish with Discord? It’s not a forum, it’s a fucking chat platform where you have to pay for fucking emojis!
There is nothing wrong, it is their informed decisions.
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That’s like getting kicked out of the home you grew up with to moving in permanently at a hotel, instead of getting your own home…
Yep that’s me… my name is Earl.
I rewatched that entire series earlier this year. It’s a shame it got cancelled.
That two part cops episode is a gem.
No ur just crashing on a relative’s house
It’s like you and your friends getting kicked out of a restaurant and then deciding to hang out at a shoe store instead of just finding a different restaurant…
Discord is nothing like reddit/lemmy/kbin.
I like the continued migrations from Reddit but Discord doesn’t seem like the best destination
and discord will perform their own major enshittification stunt sooner or later
“Will”?
They’ve already started
The username change pissed a lot of people off (2015 account and still couldn’t get the 4 letter I had before) and they canceled nitro over it. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they lost money on this move.
Yeah, it seems they’re beginning to head that way, with the nitro first and then the super emotes or whatever they’re called. I suppose I can see, if it’s server cost, but the unnecessary bells and whistles are beginning to bug me and it’s only going to continue.
Unfortunately, it’s a natural result of Discord moving from being a useful little service to a “platform” with investors and needing to constantly be updated with useless nonsense to keep the “value” of the product alive.
Realistically, once everything was up and running, and they had moved their DB over to their current platform, someone should have taken the keys away from them and just said “Discord is done, it’s complete”. We likely wouldn’t be having this much of a problem with useful information being hidden away behind Discord server invite URLs.
unlucky for discord they are the most easily replaceable platform of them all and there are already selfhostable clones
Yeah, to be truly useful, a community needs to be googleable. And discord is certainly not that.
I don’t think fashion advice needs to be googleable?
I could post a picture of me wearing a shirt and ask people what their opinion is and then everyone moves. Doesn’t need to be archived on the net
Yeah, lots of stuff is temporary, not like IT where solutions posted and searchable could save thousands of people headache and time.
Yeah, I am pretty sure it is actually the opposite of helpful if someone digs up a fashion post more than a year old, at most. Men’s fashion doesn’t change quite as fast as women’s fashion, but fast enough that it’s a bad idea to look in the archives unless you know what was in style at that time is still in style. And if you know that, why look it up?
That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you’re essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.
Holding a conversation in such a large place would be near impossible from experience, no matter how many channels there are. It’s just not going to be pleasant because it’s not made for what they want to do.
Discord has threads now, works just like Reddit.
You can create a thread and people can comment on them just fine.
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Looks just as clunky as the rest of discord. Sorry, its just not the same.
Understandable, it’s not for everyone. It’s a decent option for someone that already has a discord account and wants to leave Reddit, but at the same time doesn’t understand/want to joint Lemmy or kbin.
Yeah, discords a mess. Its a fine voice chat app, but for everything else, its like using a phillips screwdriver on a flat head. Yeah, you can probably muscle it out, but it aint gonna be pretty and theres better ways to do it.
nah, it’s like using a Phillips screwdriver on anything, there’s better things in every way
As someone that’s used it for work, I don’t find it very different than the Lemmy UI at all
Fair point. I keep forgetting that’s a thing, because I’ve genuinely never seen anyone ever use it aside from one single time just to see what it did/harass another user. And then immediately everyone went, “Huh. Neat,” and lost interest.
Understandable, it’s pretty useful in the IOS Beta community for being able to see new features or bugs without having them in a general chat group.
Very large discords don’t work for chatting.
Discords with 100-300 people with around 20-30% active and 15% very active with 20% popping in occasionally for an hour or two and the rest just lurking seems like a good sweet spot for discord servers
I wad on a discord with 20 people. After ten minutes I left. How anyone had a conversation is beyond me
you just gotta shout and hope they hear you
I think everyone really appreciates the occasional @everyone, helps folks remember they’re alive and all
It’s a skill those of us from the IRC days cultivated.
I’m glad I’m not good at it anymore.
Yeah, many users of hardwareswap were not thrilled to hear they’d be moving to Discord.
I’m very tech-literate but Discord has always seemed so fucking messy to me. So many channels and emojis and I barely know how to send someone a DM or add them to my friends list or whatever. How on earth are you supposed to keep track of anything?
Just a giant chat room, nothing permanent
it’s chaotic as fuck and nothing like reddit / lemmy / kbin.
Someone tell these hot boys about lemmy
Discord? Yuck.
I get that discord sucks but it works for them, who cares? Those verge comments, woo boy.
they’ll be moving again in a couple of years
I need to stop reading the Verge comments. I always think there might be one worth reading, and somehow, when—or if—I find it, it’s just not worth the trouble of slogging through the others.
eh why not lemmy 🙂
Discord is a black hole of information. Unindexable, unscrapable, borderline unsearchable.
It also sucks you in and spaghettifis you.
In my language spaghettifis would literally mean “spaghetti fart”.
More news at 11.
Mmmm… spaghetti…
Discord, really?
Discord is such a terrible platform for large scale communication.
Nothing pisses me off more than looking for a support link and being told you have to go to a discord. It’s terrible to search, generally requires a bunch of hoops to jump through verifying you’re not a bot and almost never has the info you’re looking for anyways.
Plus Discord is a shitty company removing features from paid users (custom tags) and forcing changes to be more like Twitter.
Also you can’t just look at a discord server for the one piece of info you need. You need to find the invite link and join the actual server, go react to some admin post to get access to the main channels, then wait 30 minutes to be granted rights to post a message on the server, then go mute the server because you obviously don’t give a shit about the hourly @everyone messages going out. Imagine having to join a subreddit every time you wanted to see it, then having to unsub so that it doesn’t show on your front page.
It’s a terrible reddit alternative.
Along with only having 100 slots available for non-Nitro users. Even with Nitro it’s 200. Between social spaces and games I play (some with several servers just for different classes), I don’t have much space left for random topics. I’m clearly a heavy Discord user, but it is not the place for forums for all the reasons you listed too.
Discord is great for making servers for friends. That’s about where my use of it ends.
