If I had known it was possible to make a local account instead of having to use my outlook for my desktop, I totally would have gone that route a couple years ago. Only plus side I can think of for not doing it is that I have immediate access to my outlook.
“YOU KNOW WHY I CLICK LATER? BECAUSE THERE’S NO OPTION TO CLICK NEVER! I’D LIKE TO CLICK NEVER! I NEVER WANT TO DOWNLOAD THESE STUPID BULLSHIT FUCKING UPDATES EVER AGAIN!”
Then click that you aren’t interested.
That setting may not scream in your face, but it is far from hidden.
Is there a newbie way to install it? It looks pretty convoluted…
Check out ubuntu if you want something thats easy to install. It’s very popular, it’s based on Debian and it has corporate backing but no spyware
The best way to install is to use a LIVE edition. This is useful beacuse you have a nice installer intergrated and you can try it before you have to install the OS on the computer.
For download of this edition, see www.debian.org/CD/live
From there, if you come from Windows, I would raccomend KDE, as it is stable and customizable. Search “KDE screenshot” to see what it looks like, and if you like it.
If you want this, here the direct URL to download: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-12.2.0-amd64-kde.iso
Debian should also be lite enough for older machines, and it is the most stable distro I’ve tried. With this OS, there are already web browser, media player, office suite,… but you can also download Steam, emulators and lots of software
For help you can DM me.
From experience, this is a stable streamlined process that is now easier than installing Windows.
Tell it to suck your dick
anyone want bet when this is going to end? i cant remember any release after xp that not had users cry about shit M$ did. winME…epic…so many sad customers. and while win7 kinda worked ok like a cheap toy you bought it was a telemetry desaster …oh, and with IE and M$paint that were already shit in winXP. so my questions is: how many generations does it take until ppl stop falling for their crap? i once read animals need like 3 errors to change behavious in a test with electric shocks on two of three exits of a cage. three. that should have stopped most animals to use windows after 98, xp and 7. so if you use win8 or win10 or later…i better stop here
I have a Win7 on my PC which I only use for gaming but Steam is telling me it’ll stop working on Win7 in about 80 days or so. I installed Win7 on it for a reason but soon it’ll be my first ever computer running Linux.
This is the way
Why don’t you just turn those notifications off?
Highly rexommed Mint Cinammon or Pop!_os
I suggest Manjaro. Arch made easy.
Use EndeavourOS if you want easy Arch, Manjaro is kinda bad.
But really if you want an easy system, go with Mint or Fedora. Arch isn’t designed for ease nor first-timers.
I think you need to look a linjx distro for you
If I use Windows I use a fully patched IoT LTSC 2019, with O&O ShutUp at somewhat recommended settings.
proton is pretty much there, thinking to jump ship to linux - already use it in all my work for decades
Even though Windows is very user-friendly. I think Windows 11 might be my last. The amount of anti-privacy that’s implemented and what I have to do just so it doesn’t constantly phone back home is kind of ridiculous.
Off to pick my flavor of Linux.
newbie or somewhat experienced user?
I would say I know the basics of Linux due to owning a Pi and messing around with it time-to-time but no where near experienced.
TL; DR: From personal experience as a Raspberry Pi tinkerer and Windows evacuee, I recommend Linux Mint.
Raspberry Pi OS is essentially Debian compiled for ARM with the LXDE desktop. They used to use LXDE, and it is my understanding they forked LXDE to make their “Pixel” desktop. Being Debian, it uses the APT package manager with .deb packages.
Linux Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, which itself is a fork of Debian. It uses the APT package manager and .deb packages. The exact same commands to install, say, LibreOffice on a Raspberry Pi can be used to install it on Linux Mint.
Cinnamon is the flagship desktop, and I think is a reasonable answer to “What if Microsoft had kept developing the Windows 7 desktop instead of trying to make a tablet OS?” I chose Cinnamon pretty immediately because it felt more like the Windows I had grown up with than Windows 8.1 did.
Isn’t there a Debian version of Mint too?
There is: Linux Mint Debian Edition. There are a few things you’re missing in LMDE than in the standard Ubuntu-based version though, such as the driver manager and support for PPAs. The latter of which has declined in usefulness with the rise of Flatpaks, I haven’t installed from a PPA in years now.
I think Fedora and Ubuntu are easy recommendations!
Decide on a DE you want and do a Debian net install. You’ll get to pick which one you want and then the installer will get all the latest packages and you’ll be up-to-date on first reboot.
Up to date… on Debian… lol 🤣
/s (somewhat)
Fedora is nice. You might also like PopOS or Majaro.
If only the Xbox controller wouldn’t randomly disconnect on Linux. No, i bought it because i read it works well here.
This is my biggest downfall with Linux, lack of integration with gaming but I’ll learn to leave without it, I guess.
I heard some recent stream thing made it pretty great now? Or was that just marketing talking?
I’m baffled and confused by Microsoft’s attempts to make you buy a Mac, but at this point I’m curious to see where what they’ll come up with next.
The point is to transition to a subscription based OS. You subscribe, pay a monthly fee for services like Teams, Outlook, etc.
The LTSC editions probably won’t ship with that bullshit, so it’s probably safe to say that they can still be usable even after completely transitioning to a subscription based OS.
Bully for them, but I don’t use Teams, Outlook, Office365, Onedrive, or Skype anyway. So the only way Microsoft is going to make a dime off of people like me is to charge a subscription for the base OS, which I ain’t paying.
Microsoft isn’t looking to make money off of you.
They get the gross of their income from businesses.
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Uuum, no.
To be perfectly honest, building software for a fixed set of hardware products is a piece of cake. Doing it for every bit of hardware on this earth, yeah, that is PITA. So, even though I don’t like MS at all, I have to hand it to them in the conpatibility department. Not as backwards compatible as Linux, but they sure are a close second in that department.
Buidling software for an already stable as fuck platform (*BSD) is a lot easier, plus you already know what hardware it’s gonna run on, lol. You cherry pick security/bug fixes and everything else regarding optimizations gets thrown under the carpet… and of course you charge your customers for the security/bug fixes, that’s always a plus 👍.
Is supporting every bit of hardware on earth why Linux shows ads everywhere?
I run Linux daily, I’ve never seen an ad (unless it was in a browser).
I reckon the NT kernel is as least as stable as the BSD kernel, perhaps even more so. The team behind the NT kernel architecture is top notch. It’s what’s layered on top of the kernel and what’s plugged into the wide of it by hardware manufacturer drivers that tends to make the OS kind of shit.
This “we make an OS, you guys write the motherboard drivers, you pay a third party to put a signature on it” approach was a choice. Apple has had plenty of third party manufacturers over the years and they forced them to write better drivers and firmware. Ignoring the quality is a choice.
Free operating systems have control over the drivers so they filter out shit code by becoming responsible for maintaining it. That’s why so much Qualcom code isn’t in the Linux kernel, it’s not good enough or it’s not done right.
Microsoft took the easy way out by handing over QC to everyone else. They have programs to validate drivers (WHQL) but then manufacturers will tell you to download the “latest” driver from their website that does all kinds of stupid shit that would never pass WHQL testing, because it’ll give you 5 fps extra.
Apple has made plenty of stupid decisions in their OS (every “I want to switch to macOS” thread is full of $5 tools to add usability features that everyone else has had built in since Windows Vista). I’ve never heard of Apple charging for updates though, they were the ones to start doing the free OS version updates that Windows 10 copied.
MS realized that the way into the future is making the OS a subscription, like Apple did. Yes Apple were first, MS copied. You see something that’s good, you adjust to implement it on your terf.
You do have a point though about MS passing the ball to the manufacturers regarding the drivers. Still, even with just the native drivers, Windows supports a lot more hardware than MacOS does.
Regarding the NT kernel vs the *BSD one, I just don’t agree. Sure, the team behind it might be top notch, but in my experience the *BSD kernel is more stable. Sure, lack of drivers, smaller user base, but if you manage to get everything running, any of the BSD flavors is rock solid. Sorry, but can’t say the same about the NT kernel.
I’ve never seen a pop-up like this on Windows and I work in IT for a living. I don’t do anything special with my personal OS install so idk what the difference is.
It only happens on Windows Home versions, it does not happen on Pro versions which you are probably using.
You can still just turn the notification off in the home version:
This appeared this week on our home Windows 10 machine as well for the one account that does not use a Microsoft account. It’s a new behavior.
I have a feeling people here like Linux…
New convert here, it’s mostly dope. Edit: here as in on linux
I was actually going to put it on an older laptop the other week, but Ubuntu wouldn’t run on it.
This was after spending an hour trying to get into the BIOS, only to find that the keyboard doesn’t actually work before the Windows splash screen comes up… I mean who the fuck designs it like that?
Also the drive bay doesn’t fit the SSD properly, so it just boot loops if you use the little caddy. Refuses to even Post.
Now I hate computers again.
What laptop was it so the rest of us can avoid this tomfoolery in the future?
Acer 5742. It’s old (and more importantly, free), but with a first gen i5 and 6GB RAM I thought it would still be able to run basic Ubuntu.
On the plus side, you could access the drive and RAM through a detachable panel, without needing to pull the whole machine to pieces, or be prevented from upgrading it entirely. Which is another thing that’s becoming depressingly rare.
Acer seems like a bit of a grabbag when it comes to quality.
We don’t have a choice.
Please do not let Linux find out I said this, I have kids.