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Good to see actors, many whom get just the base for their work, stand up for what they deserve.
Solidarity ✊
What’s it going to take to actually do something about these ultra-rich leeches literally destroying our planet and everything good on it to inflate a number in a bank somewhere? How do we actually build up the initiative to stop it?
All our other problems seem largely centered around our inability to appropriately respond to extreme greed. Not only in actually actively stopping it, but in even identifying it or being able to properly censure it in the first place. The moment you start talking about the rich being the cause of our problems, there’s a section of society that starts tuning you out. I definitely feel like as things get worse people are starting to catch on, but even once we’re there, where do we go?
If we actually get to the point of agreeing that excessive wealth is inherently misanthropic and should be a crime in and of itself, how do we make it a crime while so much power sits in the hands of those who’d be on the losing end of that decision?
I hope the WGA and SAG can spark a change in people’s consciousness around labor. I’d honestly love to see a lot more interviews and independent podcasts coming from the picket lines. If there’s anyone who can convince Americans to fight for the value of their labor, it’s the people write and play the parts in the stories they love.
While I agree that the compensation has been way too low for the working class, I fucking hate how this is used as an excuse when it hits certain group. “what are we waiting for?” as if the real working class (employees of supermarkets, fast food chains, gas stations, etc) haven’t being fucked in the ass for a long time. But now it “hurts me, let’s have solidarity”. No sympathy for them. Eat shit.
What a shit take. Seriously, how is this bad for others? Trying to delegitimise these peoples work shows me you have no idea what you talking about. Do you understand what a class war is?
You know what? I refuse to believe someone can be this dense. I took the bait, my bad. Troll.
We’re just passing a bunch of money around at the top.
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Lots of people in this thread think this is about A list actors only apparently
How exactly is attacking other workers going to help workers?
Because actors already make way more money on average for a much easier job than most people on the planet.
Children in Burundi deserve more before the people in Hollywood.
Children in Burundi should have been born in a country with a high cost of living.
as if the real working class (employees of supermarkets, fast food chains, gas stations, etc)
White collar and blue collar workers are also part of the real working class. The bottom like 95% of earners are. We need to stop labeling ourselves as different groups and start working together. Doesn’t matter the type of job you have, more than likely you are being severely underpaid and under appreciated.
Yeah man I don’t have beef with individual millionaires. It’s possible to become a millionaire without stepping on some necks. Billionaire, not so much.
These big name actors are fighting for the people that are part of SAG that are extras or do stunts who make jack shit from most productions. These people are fighting for members of their union, this has nothing to do with anything else.
Excellent comment. I’m just going to add some numbers ans a source to it.
If you’re in the United States and are working as an actor, your income is closer to Minimum Wage than to the big names in the entertainment industry, with wages (not salaries, these people are paid by the hour) ranging from $7.75 up to $36.00, averaging at $15.29. We talk about the big names, but these are the people really being hit. Hollywood execs don’t even want to pay these wages. They’d rather give you a month of wages in order to have access to your voice and face for all time. This is even worse when you factor in that your image might get big…imagine being a fresh face right out of acting college, going in for your first audition, and they say “We like you. We’ll give you $3000 if you just enter our scanning booth and spend an hour saying nonsense lines.” That pays your first month’s rent (barely), but lo and behold, down the road, your likeness is earning the studio execs a cool billion, and you ain’t getting a penny of that, because you signed a contract saying your likeness and voice could be used by them at no compensation for you for all time.
THAT is a big part of what this strike is about.
Yeah. It’s only a problem when rich people aren’t making enough money.
Your slip is showing.
lol, wut? How much do you think the average actor makes? Not everyone is Adam Driver……
More than most people on the planet while doing a much easier job.
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Good to see some solidarity. I wish it happened more. I’d have thought that the spread internet, allowing easy and covert communication, would have caused a proliferation in the number and efficacy of labor unions, but alas.
It’s not like they were producing anything new or original anyway. I’m not entirely sure I care.
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Oh no! Anyway…
How’s that boot taste?
What boot? The boot of the industrial propaganda machine that I’m refusing to be concerned about when it just might have to slow down on producing another cinematic universe for merchandising? Screw the studios, let them deflate a little while the people who do the work strike for better conditions and wages. I’m sure the next Thor movie can wait a couple more years before becoming a lunchbox.
The workers get to choose what gets produced do they?
You are complaining about exactly the same people that the workers are striking against.
You are complaining about exactly the same people that the workers are striking against.
Yes, because as a worker of any kind, I stand in solidarity with the people who are looking for fair compensation for their time and work.
The workers get to choose what gets produced do they?
Yes. If I work at a chemical plant, then find out the plant has been poisoning the town I live in, my most effective way to stop that happening is to refuse to make more poison and convince as many of my neighbors and colleagues who work with me to do the same. The boss won’t come down from his office and make it himself, will he? As the person making it, I’m morally responsible for it’s existence.
Right. The impression given by your original post (pre edit) was that of not caring about the workers, I’ve just seen that edit and see the misunderstanding here now.
Yeah, my mistake. I realized that afterwards, hence the edit. That’s what I get for trying to use a meme response, I need to be clearer in my reactions.
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The actors are also stepping on others.
They care more about living well I’m Hollywood than children in Burundi getting food and water.
All this money is so they can live as lavish a life as possible and show off to their friends. They want this money for acting instead of doing something else useful for society.
They get mad when I point out they don’t work that hard and have a lot of excess wealth.
The workers have no control over anything in Burundi. What a bizarre thing to attack them with.
They get mad when I point out they don’t work that hard and have a lot of excess wealth.
I think this is an imaginary conversation you have while in the shower
No, it’s what I witness whenever I call it out.
What do you do for a living? I’m certain I can come up with some reductive asshole argument about how you’re hurting some.
To add; this is, in my opinion a bigger deal than UPS. There are other freight companies. It’s bigger than the railroads. We have other shipping. We only have one Hollywood. Entertainment sucked the last time they striked. It started all the reality shows.
boo hoo
Now I can finally catch up with my backlog!
I don’t know why you got downvoted. Because you watch TV? So what? Either way, I liked your comment!
How’s that boot taste?
As far as I’m aware, neither of the striking unions have called for a consumer boycott.
It’s just kind of disgusting to be saying this shit jovially when people’s lives and families are at stake and actors are publicly threatening to burn down CEO’s homes. It reeks of sociopathic shit having absolutely no empathy or support for what people are going through.
He clarified his words after some people naturally started to take it a little too literally, but I don’t think he needed to.
Whoever that “anonymous exec” was who said they wouldn’t even start to negotiate until strikers started losing their homes deserves to be pilloried.
He clarified his words after some people naturally started to take it a little too literally, but I don’t think he needed to.
Whoever that “anonymous exec” was who said they wouldn’t even start to negotiate until strikers started losing their homes deserves to be pilloried.
Pretty sure this walk back is simply because of the legal implications. It’s pretty obvious what he meant.
Pillory is too nice for them.
I’m glad more and more workers are realizing the power they have over the industries they’re working in.
Without the workers, the businesses have nothing. We really need to have a serious revolution before they replace all jobs with AI robots.
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Good. More please. Hold these cucks accountable.
Destroying the planet for infinite wealth.
This. I want more strikes. I’m tired of everything going to shit and the masses sit back and do nothing. I’ve gone to a few protests recently, and honestly it’s cheap therapy for me. Feels nice to actually DO something.
And what have you actually accomplished with marching and shouting? I went to quite a few BLM protests back in 2020, got tear gassed and shit along with my friends, and yet still haven’t seen anything meaningful change.
Change is slowwwww, my brother. It’s rare that an actual upheaval happens and things shift noticably overnight.
It is and always has been a long, long struggle, and there is no final victory, only temporary triumphs that must be vigorously defended, because the enemy will never stop trying to take back every inch.
Change doesn’t have to be slow and we don’t need to make more excuses for the people able to make the change. Protests outside of the US have shown how to accelerate change in the direction they want. At this point though, it appears that a lot of people have given up hope that anything will change
And can you blame them? The opposition infrastructure is so incredibly overbuilt that it’s like trying to chip away at a wall when they keep taking away your tools.
Yeah! I’m sick of it. Not only do they want infinite money but also infinite growth.
Literally like a cancer. Feasting on society until nothing is left.
You wanna get really mad? A new practice they were trying to pull off was bring in some young good looking actors; do 3d body scans, record a bunch of voice data, and then have them allow the studios a perpetual license to use their likeness for a few thousand bucks. How evil is that?
It’s only a matter of time for desperate people to sell their likeness to a company doing that. If there was a company out there saying they’d pay you $3k to do a full body 3d scan, record 1 hour of voice lines, and own the rights to your image…do you know how many people would do that? (Probably a significant amount)
Evil and awful yes, but people are desperate for cash in this economy and most people wouldn’t truly understand what they are giving up to the company
At this point they should just pay OpenAI to AI generate their “actors”
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I think it’s even more goddamn nefarious than just destroying the planet for wealth - if some of the shit I’ve been reading is right, then AI has changed the game and this strike is our fucking chance to get ahead of the shit that these studios want to pull. In what world is it okay to pay an actor a single day’s worth of work and retain their likeness in pepertuiry using AI generation.
I’ll admit that I’m not very knowledge on the whole workings of the AI part of it, but I do feel like every actor should have full control over their likeness and how it should be recorded and how it is applied to AI.
From what I heard it’s not even new technology but from ~2016, they’re just trying to push it through again but now under the guise of AI
The 1% would murder us all and replace us with AI if given the chance, never forget that. They’d be too stupid to realize that the AI bots would take them out next.
I’ve been “striking” for a long time now, against junk TV in general. There’s an occasional awesome show that delivers but 95% of it is low-effort junk TV like dating, survival, cooking and other shows like it.
I haven’t had live TV in years and it’s quite shocking to see what the average user deals with. Junk TV + ads that play 30% of the time is absolutely insane.
low-effort junk TV like dating, survival, cooking and other shows like it.
… in other words, exactly the shows that don’t use actors or writers
Dont they also have writers on these? With most of it being scripted and dramatized, sbd. gotta make all this stuff up. Also the whole set-up the catch etc. I thought these were done by writers too.
I don’t know how other companies work, but I work at a company that produces a lot of reality TV shows. They definitely have writers that will lead the direction that the shows take (for example challenge ideas for a dating show or maybe bow they deliver hints to a blind customer cooking show) and they’ll have some leading questions in interviews (or even asking to phrase things for more drama if the contestants want to and they usually say yes) but you’d be surprised at how unscripted the ones we produce are.
Huh. When you put it that way…
I actually think the movies they star in and write are shit too.
Just looking at the list of movies held up by the strike makes me weep with joy.
Glad greedy shitbags who make nothing but garbage are fighting each other.
Even the most high effort shows have so much useless digression and pointless characters that are developed and killed off in a single episode.
You forgot animated sitcom that either lasts 6 episodes or 16 seasons
lol only 30%?
jokes but i agree… i remember going to visit some relatives and sat and watched tv with them… i too was so shocked at how they’d sit idly thru commercials jarring into their show, slapping them in the face…
i can’t stand it. just about anything i watch, when i watch, is commercial free
I think they get that from most half hour shows are 22 minutes and hour shows only 42 minutes.
But if course networks have been known to cut them back even further to squeeze some more ads in
Hey now! Some of us like the cooking shows lol
Yeah. I’ll watch an occasional Gordon Ramsay here and there. I’m more referring to the baking shows, kids cooking shows and similar. But you know what I mean, replace all variants of cooking with the many variants of home improvement, how many do we need?
I haven’t had live TV in years and it’s quite shocking to see what the average user deals with. Junk TV + ads that play 30% of the time is absolutely insane.
Yeah, I’ve had the same experience. We don’t have live TV, and when we occasionally hang out with friends or family who do I’m always flabbergasted at the frequency and length of ad breaks nowadays, and similarly amazed that despite a nearly endless list of channels there never seems to be anything I actively want to watch.
I had one of them first TiVos, then upgraded to them expanded versions modes online for 1TB of shows. The 30-second skip button pressed six(6) times would effectively (skip) the ads. Never looked back. When I see or hear a commercial at someone’s house it rocks me like I’m in a different dimension and time.
Personally I rarely watch TV in real time, so the only time of year I ever really see commercials is during the NFL season.
I can’t believe the people that allow commercials to blare in their living rooms without diving for the remote control like the house is on fire. Is it just me? and they just continue normal conversation like it’s somehow possible to hear them.
My parents still have cable TV (I just got them a Roku not long ago, so fingers crossed…), and at this point I can’t stand to watch it for more than about one and a half commercial breaks. It’s hard to believe anybody willingly subjects themselves to that trash when ad-free alternatives are available.
