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    7 months ago

    Well there wouldn’t be that many dogs if you didin’t farm them in the first place.

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    Joo Young-bong, head of the Korea Dog Meat Farmers’ Association, said the group would release two million dogs in the capital – especially near significant governmental locations and outside the homes of politicians.

    Okay. Now they can hold this dipshit personally responsible for every dog released. He could be financially ruined, spend years in prison, or possibly both.

    Tip: if you’re going to threaten the government with what could be considered domestic terrorism, do it anonymously.

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    Let them do it and toss them in prison. They want to fuck around? Let them find out.

    Two million dogs is a lot but I’m willing to call their bluff.

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        Taiwan also has a stray dog issue. Prior to having a cane I used to keep this solid wooden dowel in my backpack. I shit you not I’ve almost had to use it a few times.

        The problem is solvable if they just neutered the damn things but I don’t think the government wants to front the costs of doing that.

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      They’ve found themselves in a situation where they have three options let the dogs out, let them starve, or euthanize them all.

      I wouldn’t consider it to be a bluff. Realistically just letting them out is the least labor intensive since the other two leave them with 2M bodies to dispose of. Plus if the dogs don’t all have some form of identification system if they did release them it’d be hard to prove the now feral dogs were theirs, and not say another former farmer’s.

      This is a situation that needs serious intervention.

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        Weren’t they all going to be killed for meat anyways?

        How many dogs are killed for meat ever year with the dog meat trade being legal? That should put things into perspective for any moron who thinks the trade should still go on to ‘protect the dogs.’

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      7 months ago

      Is that any worse than any other animal being farmed?

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        Well the dog farmers hang, burn, and beat the shit out of the dogs before they kill them because they believe the fear and adrenaline improves the taste and makes them more tender…so yes I’d say it’s worse.

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          Pigs, cows, and chickens also experience incredible suffering in factory farms. The whole industry is rotted.

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            It is, but most of the actual killing in like 90% of the world is done as fast and cleanly as possible. If only to keep the process as efficient as possible.

            Fun fact, if you want ethically killed meat (if such a thing can exist), the best option is actually Kosher meat. There are religious laws and such, and the easiest way to comply with them is a sort of guillotine. It’s an instant death.

            The animals of also generally better treated than most factory farm setups.

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              A 90% figure that is pulled out of your ass sounds a lot less compelling when billions of animals are slaughtered for food each year. How many is too many? And the killing isn’t even the worst part.

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                Similar, but in practice it’s quite a bit different.

                Halal requires a swift cut with a sharp knife across the throat of the animal. Severing the spine is expressly forbidden.

                The animal then bleeds out, which can still be a quick death, but nowhere near as fast as decapitation, which is most commonly used in kosher butchery.

                The bolt pistol used in modern butchery can also be instant. You place what looks like a pneumatic drill on the cow’s forehead, and then pull the trigger. It fires a stainless steel rod forward into the cow’s skull. The rod is captive at the end of its travel, so you just have to cock the tool, and you can use it again (provided it’s actually pneumatically powered, and not powered by a blank round, or something else, there are a lot of versions, even some that are designed to not penetrate the skull.)

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            It’s a weird dynamic. I feel no remorse eating pork or beef. I know the process, I raised farm animals as a kid. BUT, I know someone working on genetically modified pigs for human organ transplants and that makes me somehow uneasy.

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          Frankly that sounds like the sort of bullshit I’d hear from Greenpeace.

          Even if that were true, have you seen say a chicken farm? Workers will cruelly abuse the ever living shit out of these animals for no reason.

          I wouldn’t say it’s worse than…

          The chickens at the farm were filmed being kicked, thrown to the ground and having their necks broken for fun.

          “I hate it when their heads come off,” one female worker says in a clip.

          “Yeah, it feels good, look,” a male worker replies.

          “Oh, you’re cruel,” the woman say as a chicken writhes on the ground. The other workers can be heard laughing as they all watch the hen

          https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/secret-video-reveals-horrific-abuse-of-hens-inside-victorian-egg-farm/news-story/dd429e36eb2e210fc702c78663f6961d?amp

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            I was stationed in South Korea and saw them with my own eyeballs but you can believe whatever you like.

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              Even if that were true, have you seen say a chicken farm?

              Completely ignored this part, as expected.

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                I grew up in farmland. I’ve seen numerous animals killed. We didn’t beat our goats before we killed them. Same with our chickens.

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        I mean, arguably one could make a standard based on animal intelligence. Like, dogs are fairly smart, so one could argue that raising them for meat in farm conditions isn’t very ethical, and similarly, farming something like, say, a dolphin, might be even worse if someone was to do that, but then that farming much more simple minded creatures like shrimp, bees, mealworms etc would be much more acceptable. A standard like that still wouldn’t reflect well on most animal agriculture though given that most meat animals are mammals and birds, which can be reasonably intelligent, especially pigs to my understanding. Though I suppose the conditions of the farm matter too, like, sheep kept on adequate grazing land for their wool probably don’t have too bad a life as far as farm animals go, and it’s probably possible if more expensive and less land efficient to get milk and eggs from cows/goats and chickens in a reasonably humane way too, since those products don’t inherently require raising the animal just to kill it.

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    I’m sure they can find some other way to be useful to society.

    Always sad to see people trying to stifle progress so they can avoid adapting. That’s not how work works, lol. You do what society deems useful, and then you get paid. If what you’re doing is no longer making you money, then you have to find something else to do.

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    Eating a dog is no different than eating a cow. Meat is meat. If the cow farmers in the US decided to unleash their herds in a populated place it would also be a bad time…