• Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I find the opposite more annoying. If your memory of those events is accurate there’s plenty of things to point to to back it up.

    But then you have older people like my father who…I don’t know, something has completely rewritten their memories of significant events to the point where he claims many things happened differently than verifiable recorded history. It’s impossible to argue with that because of him seeing me pointing out that’s not true as an attack and accusing him of lying.

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      Or maybe someone rewrote the books. I’ve long had a suspicion a lot of the Mandela effect is just people with long memories who missed the propaganda rewrite.

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        What would you think if your parents say it’s time to put you up for adoption every time you get into an argument? What a fucking weird thing to get upset over and think of throwing your parents away just because of an argument

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          What a weirdly aggressive comment, calm down. It’s a comment section on the internet, don’t get so emotional.

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          Fr it adult homes make sense for people without children or problematic families, but how can you take a person who has raised you and showered you with love and stick him in a glorified hospital?

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            but how can you take a person who has raised you and showered you with love and stick him in a glorified hospital?

            Because they didnt.

            I have no interest in so much as talking to my parents. They did the bare minimum to get me to 18 and that was it. Everything else was for them. So fuck you if I don’t want to give them the same goddamn treatment so I can break the cycle and focus on my own damn family.

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    I still regard post-9/11 as an aberration. It feels like if I accept it as the new normal I’ve failed some duty to humanity.

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      It made the world weird - especially politics. I still attribute the extreme polarization that we see today to the aftermath of 9/11.

      Don’t get me wrong, I know people had strong opinions before 2001, but it didn’t seem like political party was as significant a part of the average person’s identity like it is now.

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    What I’ve noticed is people who think that various 90s bands were from the 80s, or vice versa.

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      That’s not that weird though.

      The sound or design choices that come to define a decade, often pre-date it.

      Eg. House music originated in the 80s but became mainstream in the 90s. So if I popped on a random 80s house track, if you don’t know your stuff, you’re likely to think it’s 90s.

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        Yeah, often sounds progress over several years and you might have someone from one decade that was a groundbreaker, and then tons of bands 5 years later sound like them.

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    To be fair, with time we can learn about what happened and understand it better than whatever the media at the time thought.

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      While this is true in some cases I’m still waiting on concrete evidence the moon landing was fake.

  • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.one
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    My “favorite” lecture from young people is the one in which they berate me for “stealing content” by not watching ads on YouTube.

    I have a vivid memory of YouTube being a platform where normal people could share videos of their kids and pets or other fun random low quality but entertaining things

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      Now it’s so commercialized that I’m not posting anything on YouTube anymore, simply because I know that I’m going to get so many emails about how my video of me building a Lego set or whatever, violated some new social taboo that was invented 5 minutes ago, and how they are going to send the YouTube police after me to send me to the shadow Realm

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      Not really going to get into it with you, because you clearly have your mind made up, but you pretty much nailed why at the end.

      I have a vivid memory of YouTube being a platform where normal people could share videos of their kids and pets or other fun random low quality but entertaining things

      People spend a lot of time and money making videos these days. They aren’t just random low quality things. They have teams of sometimes hundreds, use cameras worth half a million dollars, and may take a week or month to record said video while paying those hundreds of employees.

      Again, not going to change your mind, Lemmy is very open about not giving a shit about others when it comes to money, but it’s not 2006 anymore, and people need to make their money back AND pay their employees.

      Personally I’m fine watching a few ads to support the content I clearly want to watch. Seems weird you’d be interested enough in what someone has to show you, but refuse to help them in any way, but whatever.

      Remember guys, don’t forget to hit the downvote button if you haven’t already. How dare I say anything positive that isn’t just “fuck ads, fuck YouTube, fuck everyone!”

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        If they use all that stuff to shoot the video, it means they already made it or they spent money they shouldn’t have.

        I didn’t mind getting a handful of ads an hour, i do mind that i now get like 20 minutes to watch some youtube because adulting sucks and Youtube is like: swallow these 7 ads bitch, guess what bitch we forgot we showed you 7 have some more cunt and now my 20 minutes is fucked, so i say: time for Youtube to get bent.

        If what i hear is right, they are and have been operating in the red for a long time. Half of their creators are better business people than they are.

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          If they use all that stuff to shoot the video, it means they already made it or they spent money they shouldn’t have.

          Pretty clear you’ve never owned a business. You have to invest money to start it.

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        people need to make their money back AND pay their employees.

        that’s very much a “them” problem. if i don’t want to watch ads, you won’t guilt me into it.

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        Tell me how to filter all that highly polished crap from my feed and searches, because I don’t want it. I hate all that shit being shoved at me. If I wanted to watch someone spouting bad takes with a highly polished commercial-friendly veneer, I’d watch cable. I hate all those monetized channels, and they can all go under for all I care, along with that entire hellsite. Then more people would support actually good non-monetized projects like peertube.

        Even if what I’m doing is stealing, it’s a good thing. Can’t wait for YouTube’s demise. It’s not a fun site to use anymore because all the good non-monetized content gets buried in favor of these soul-sucking assholes.

        I don’t even click people’s links anymore, because it’s always some rich bearded white male with the most painful content.

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      YouTube has increased the amount of ads that used to be standard by about 1000%. You used to get about 22-26 minutes of actual content per 30 minutes of viewing. On YouTube it’s about 2 minutes of advertising per 0.5-3 minutes of viewing. The majority of the things I watch on YouTube are short 30 second videos to see specific things, but Google seems to think it’s okay to show me 2-3 minute long commercials before letting me see the 30 second blurb telling me the foot pounds per square inch I need to apply to my brake calipers before I can finish my brake change job. This is even more annoying now that Google doesn’t surface this type of information on regular websites, where I can just quickly read the spec.

      TLDR: fuck Google and fuck ads

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      It feels like YouTube has become the new Hollywood with production companies and YouTubers becoming celebrities and whatnot. Such a far cry from it’s beginnings as a place where people would upload random family videos that nobody watched.

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        Literally the first video posted was one of the creators in a selfie video at the zoo. That’s the YouTube I want back. That’s what it was meant to be.

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      I don’t understand why they think we care if we’re stealing content regardless. I pirate movies and TV shows, but they don’t whine about that, in fact, most will approve of it. Why draw the line at YouTubers?

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        They often say that we’re screwing the person who runs the channel. In reality, I’m willing to bet my left nutsack that they make a fuckton more from the occasional donations than from ads, once Google, MCNs, and the government take their share.

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      I have an honest question and I feel like Lemmy is a good place to have a real discussion on this. To preface this, I use adblock too so I’m kinda calling myself a hypocrite with this question :P

      Why do we expect any free service not to have ads? If a paid service like Netflix introduced ads I’d be pissed, and same goes for cable TV these days. But why would something free like Youtube not have ads? How can we be bothered by ads on a service we’re getting for free?

      Someone help me reconcile this for my own well-being haha.

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        Why do we expect any free service not to have ads?

        Youtube has the right to serve ads along with the content, but it does not have the right to dictate what I can or can’t do with the data once it hits my machine. It has no more right to hijack my property to force them upon me than it does to strap me to a chair and force my eyes open, A Clockwork Orange style.

        If Youtube doesn’t like that arrangement, its recourse is to serve a 403: forbidden instead of the video data.

        There’s also a deeper discussion to be had whether corporations have any sort of right to exist in their current form in the first place, but I’ll leave that for another time.

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          Is is like muting during a commercial break, or going out of the room to do something else. What happens in my home, is under my control. You want to stop me from doing that? Refuse to serve me content. I’m fine with that

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            It’s like flipping over the ad pages in a magazine. It’s like taking the advertisement brochures out of a newspaper and throwing them into the trash. It’s like leaving the room during halftime break. It’s like taping a show without the commercial breaks. It’s like walking past a poster without reading it. It’s like getting your letters from the mailbox and throwing away the advertising mailers. It’s like going to the cinema and talking during the ads that are playing before the movie. It’s like walking down the sidewalk and ignoring the people trying to sell you merchandise. It’s like switching channels when commercials come on.

            But for some reason, people are trying to tell me that I’m ethically and morally in the wrong for blocking fucking YouTube ads.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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      Lol, I’ve got a friend that likes to tell me how his YouTube Red subscription pays for his favorite streamers’ bills.

      Like… Just give those people the money directly. Why pay Google the lions share? I guess some people just enjoy the taste of boot. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      Meaningless sentence. Research is a loose definition, memories are loose definition. Research is written by people with memories. Memories are written by first hand research. Words are cheap. Nothing is real

      There is no spoon

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    I was telling someone much younger than myself that airports didn’t always completely suck to go through. I explained how the TSA wasn’t a thing and the experience was closer to getting on a bus or a train pre 9/11.

    He had a hard time wrapping his head around it because he’s never experienced it.

    Made me feel very old.

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      As a post 9/11 adult, moving to a place with really good and smooth flowing train infrastructure made me so frustrated with the stressful and unnecessary security theatre of airports worldwide

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        Especially since it’s just theater. It’s just to make you feel fucking oppressed. Fuck!

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        I traveled via airline before and after 9/11, and taking trains still amazes me: I can just walk up to it with my bag and get on??? I don’t even have to go into the station if it’s not between the parking and the platform! (The station I usually use is like that.) Plus the comfortable seat with legroom…

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        Take your shoes off. Take your belt off. Step into the scanner. Is that bottle more than 3.4 ounces? It looks like it’s 3.42 ounces. Throw it out. Put your belt back on. Put your shoes back on. Did you pack your bags yourself? Have your bags been in your possession since you packed them? Take your shoes back off. In 2015 TSA missed 95% of weapons that a red team attempted to smuggle through security. Put your shoes back on.

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    On the other hand, there’s my dad defending Apartheid with the defence “you weren’t there”. The whole rest of the world from the time seemed to agreed with me, too, Dad.

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    This is pretty much my experience when watching an episode of Adam Ruins Everything. Remember when we thought that show was actually right about stuff?

    We really need a movement to debunk the debunkers

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      actually right about stuff

      I know there are criticisms to made about it but this makes it sound like it was mostly crap, which as far as I can tell isn’t the case.

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      hbomberguy recently had a video that “ruins” Youtubers who have been very successful from educational videos while using blatant plagiarism. It’s 4 hours long but it’s very engaging and might be something you enjoy.

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      weaken steel beams enough to compromise their structural integrity and cause the floors of a tower to collapse and cause a cascade of critical failures

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    As an early GenX whose been online since the BBS days this happens all the time but honestly the historical revisionism isn’t main problems, it’s the loss of context around the history.

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        I second this! I used to make day-long deliveries across the Kansas plains and listening to Dan Carlin wax eloquent about the rise and fall of the Persian Empire or the Rape of Nanking kept me engaged and entranced the entire time.

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    Oh yeah…it’s kind of a bummer. “Aw, buddy! I know it’s all so new and exciting for you, but I’ve been there. I saw it live…” You don’t want to be that guy, but it can be tiring sometimes…

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      It’s disingenuous to assume the Soviet Union is representative of communism or even the Western communist movement at the time or afterwards. It would be similar to pointing to the unique horrors of the United States history and claiming therefore all those supporting capitalism are disturbing.