• renormalizer@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    Dude, 13000 deaths are approximately 28% of the total traffic death toll for 2021. Even if I take the data for 2014, with the all-time low of 1.17 fatalities per 100m mi driven, that 28% is more than the 0.12 total fatalities in Germany (1.9 per bn km, 2018). Maybe the government could start fixing driver’s ed and make sure vehicles are actually road safe.

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    11 months ago

    Soon enough you’ll need a blood and stool sample to start your car … and of course all the information will be sold to advertisers.

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    11 months ago

    I don’t think the current level of drunk driving is large enough to violate everyone’s privacy to catch the very few drivers who drank too much. I’m much more worried about road rage drivers than drunk drivers. Road ragers are actively trying to hurt or kill people.

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      Road rage is bigger than just drivers. Most violent crime is committed by young men. Ideally, these people would have better access to jobs and free mental health care.

      Yes, some counselling would help. Just talking to someone who isn’t related to you or in a relationship with you can be enlightening.

  • ExLisper@linux.community
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    11 months ago

    I think we all know what’s the only foolproof solution here is: anal probe. It would be integrated into driver’s seat and make a measurement every couple minutes. Yes, I know, it could be defeated by sitting on sober person’s lap while you drive but I don’t actually think it’s a big security issue. If you have someone who can sit in driver’s seat the whole trip they can probably also drive. Also it would be very uncomfortable for everyone and very easy to spot by police. Any other solution is stupid and wouldn’t work. It’s so obvious I don’t think it even merits a serious discussion. Anal probe is the only way: it doesn’t depend on some shitty AI face recognition BS that will fail randomly or won’t work at all for some people, you can’t cheat it by having someone else start your car, you can’t cheat it by having the passenger blow into something or give his blood sample and it’s compatible with every driver

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      The issue is the initial testers and designers are mainly white and male. How are they going to do initial tests on dark skin if they are lighter than a piece of paper?

      Original design shapes the product and future patches are not going to fix fundamental errors.

  • BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 months ago

    The law requires a technology safety standard by November 2024 if the technology is ready.

    The technology will never be ready. The accuracy required for such a thing to not be universally despised is absurd.

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      The technology will never be ready

      I think you are right, I hope they don’t push it in a half assed state.
      Achieving the accuracy is not the major problem here, but keeping it accurate. You have to make it robust enough so it doesn’t fail at random (sensors in general are a bitch in this regard) and it has to hold a perfect calibration for long enough (a assume chemical detection sensor, which again, are a super-bitch regarding calibrations), while also making it at least a bit hard to bypass. The other problem is the privacy nightmare this can be, analyzing fluids or cameras pointing to your face… are they gonna sell this data to insurance companies (just as an example, it could be other companies, your employer…)? Of course they are!
      The only thing I would expect from this is a lot of people pissed or worst because of malfunctions while all the drunktards stay on the road by simply filling a ballon before they start drinking.

      Mother Against Drunk Driving (MADD)

      Aaaand of course this is been pushed by some Puritan-Americans lol

      • Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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        Tldr I rant at hypothetical, you can safely skip this

        If I have a sensor, it’s getting removed. If there’s a camera or some such thing connecting to anywhere, it’s either removed or I simply won’t buy that car. Anything mandated by law for the end-user is getting bypassed and removed until there’s some sort of inspection for it.

        I don’t drink, at all. Never could stand the taste of alcohol. So anything mandated by law to make sure I’m not drinking and driving is simply an inconvenience, another barrier between a person and what is necessity to do anything in this country (no I don’t care that some people can personally get to your work, the store, and family with a 10 minute bus ride, that simply isn’t reality for anyone outside dense cities) and I’m pretty biased against government agencies raising the bar for things that mostly only affect poorer people.

        A rich dude will never need to worry about replacing a bad sensor, or what if the broken sensor trips again and I can’t drive to work again.

        The single mother of 3 in a rusting minivan, however, isn’t so lucky.

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    11 months ago

    I knew a guy that had an interlock device in his Tahoe because of two DUIs. I watched him drink a beer while driving it. He figured out somehow that if he drank enough water with his beer, it would fool the device and let him keep driving. This was 20 years ago, so they may be better now.