Lol pay for exclusive memes, I’m out guys
Gross. Time for a mass exodus to Matrix.
Will the memes be immune to screenshotting and OBS? lmao
While I think 10% is a bit steep I don’t think this is as bad as getting rid of the discriminators at the end of usernames.
Here’s the thing… If your name was gamers_mate#2002 before the change, after the change you could make your name gamers_mate2002 and functionally nothing would change.
As I’ve said elsewhere, the user name stuff was stupid, but it’s not that big of a deal.
you are working really really hard in these comments defending a platform thats pretty arguably indefensible when it comes to both privacy and basic UX
every thing discord does at this point is to increase numbers on a chart and make an accountant happy
It’s the defacto way many communities stick around and communicate with each other, especially in the gaming world.
Discord is a for profit company. Everyone here except you understands and accepts that.
I find discord’s ux to be very pleasing. You want to cry and whine about element but … Discord uses electron. I’m starting to doubt that you have much/any development experience and are just spouting off stuff you have heard.
Discord is trying to find a path to fund itself. It is a business. Making money and being a good product are not at odds with one another. Via nitro and server subscriptions discord can fund itself while still remaining an excellent and free platform. What they have added is the ability for server owners to basically do Patreon type things inside their own servers.
I’m guessing that you didn’t actually bother to read far enough to understand that server owners set up subscription terms, not discord. This is not discord forcing anything upon servers. This is discord giving server owners the ability to monetize their individual server by having subscriptions. If a server does this and you don’t like it then just leave.
You know how you can tell if you’re in the wrong? It’s when you have to edit your comment to make the reply look wrong.
I’m going to take a rather controversial stance on this. I don’t see this as such a bad Thing
First of all, running a discord server, especially a large one is not easy and discord mods deserve to be paid for their time just as much as anyone else.
While I will say that I’m not a huge fan of discord’s new focus on massive servers, it’s clear that that’s what brings in the big dough for them.
If this helps discord keep the lights on, and keep small servers running that’s good for me as much as it is good for them.
Also, I’d much rather this than ads ngl
Oh God anything but ads
Those flashy animated reactions are just incredibly annoying. Wish I could disable them, but of course Discord would never allow you to turn off the monetization.
Now that I’ve started playing around with my own lemmy instance I guess it’s fitting for possibly my last beehaw post to reflect my first.
I see discord’s business model is still burning cash trying to be the next
slack steam zoom redditpatreonCan’t wait for the 2nd hand free exclusive meme trading scene!
I won’t pay for anything that discord offers. I understand that companies are there to make money but they do not have anything of actual value to sell me. I don’t care about emojis or Nitro or whatever. I just want a chat client that allows me to communicate with people I play certain games with. In-game chat can do this as well and I will simply go back to that if the monetization of discord gets to be too big of a problem. It’s less convenient and sometimes sucks when folks are on different platforms but it’s free.
So it’s just an expansion of what can be monetized within a server. I see nothing wrong with this. It even gives small indie devs like me a chance at a small revenue stream.
If you don’t like the things a specific server is doing, leave. It’s pretty simple.
I have no problem paying for a service or an app if it is good and fits my needs. It’s the microtrans and battle passes that people generally have issues with. Paying for every little thing like a meme.
You seem to be forgetting that it is the server owner who decides these things. If you’re on a server that is monetizing memes and you don’t like it, leave.
Monetizing memes was given as an example. A stupid example Yes but only an example.
I found the PC Gamer article a bit confusing so I read other articles and understood it better. I get it now. It’s not Discord setting these sub tiers etc. They are allowing more servers. Doesn’t sound so bad. I guess depending how much a person uses a server they are a member of, they can help support the server and receive premium benefits and Discord who gets a cut of the purchases. All optional. Not too bad as it is up to the individual servers.
It’s the beginning of the entire platform turning to shit. Because it’s never enough money. More ads, more tracking, more locked in features.
This is the cycle of monetization. It gives you a small revenue stream, but only until users get fed up and leave. Because it’s never enough money coming in. More more more.
I suggest you Google “slippery slope fallacy”.
Did that fucknugget ruining Twitter cause EVERYONE to have the same hair brained idea?
Kinda like how Apple often makes terrible decisions that everyone hates, and then every other company follows suit because it actually worked and it’s been normalized now. Musk made all sorts of garbage decisions and didn’t lose critical mass of users, so now every other social media company is gonna follow suit now that the terrible ideas have been “normalized” by one of them.
Terrible decisions? I would say they’re really conservative about it and it shows. It took them probably a decade to make an AR headset and it looks like it may succeed. They said nothing about AI lately, presumably because they’re waiting to see how it matures.
I think they’re complaining about the headphone jack. But the reality is most people didn’t even care, it’s a problem solved with a $5 dongle that just lives on your earbuds.
I don’t mind it. It’s outing all the companies who are run by people who lack critical thinking skills. Thanks for letting me know which corners of the internet to avoid
companies running unprofitable social media (read: not worth the 100s of millions of investor money for some fuckin basic chat or forums) figured out they cant ever become super profitable like theyd hoped and try to monetize to the max while they can
Where are the Discord alternatives? Just in cause Discord goes to hell
divolt looks pretty good, has bridge support so you dont need to make all your friends move to something else
I heard about “guilded” but i don’t have direct experience.
We could always go back to ventrilo servers for voice chats! I miss hopping into vent with my WoW guild for raids back in the day.
Well, this seems like powerful motivation for me to eventually find a free open source positive alternative to Discord, while ignoring Discord in the meantime. I would love to bypass their enshittification phase entirely.
Revolt is one, and the app is basically a clone of Discord.
There’s Matrix/Element and now Revolt
Maybe this is a sign people need to stop expecting everything on the Internet to be free?
If you’re selling my data, it’s not free
@PositiveNoise @dirtmayor Have you tried revolt.chat ?
I’ll check out revolt.chat. Thanks for the suggestion!
It’s very new, but that’s one. Spacebar was one but seems to be stuck in limbo. Then yeah there’s Revolt I guess.
Oh yeah sure, this would be cool and all if they didn’t screw 99% of their users out of their usernames first.
I don’t even get how this would make them more money. Maybe they could sell the “OG” names they reserved, but that’s likely very little compared to all the people cancelling Nitro.
Many people, including myself, had Nitro just for the ability to choose a custom discriminator. Regardless of whether we liked the update, that reason is no longer valid.
The usernames stuff was stupid, but pray tell. How did users get “screwed out of their usernames”.
Did you know that when choosing a username you could just do your name and the number sans the hashtag and it’s functionality exactly the same as before.
It was a stupid change and unnecessary, but nobody got screwed out of anything.
I’m sure most people got the username they wanted, definitely more than 1% anyways. But if more than one person had the same username, people would be “screwed out of their username”
Now if someone wants the same name they’d have to add numbers at the end, or something stupid like xX_
I lost my username. It sucked but I don’t feel screwed. I do feel like the username change was not necessary.
But they went in order of sign up, so if they had used this model from the beginning those users still wouldn’t have been able to get that username.
Not necessarily true. Celebrities and Nitro subscribers also got early picks, and it isn’t like they wait for each person one-by-one: you are in a bucket with others who might get to your preferred username before you.
Discord has been making a lot of bad decisions lately but imo this isn’t one of them. It’s not like they’re forcing every server to setup paid channels.
Currently, many creators have Patreons setup and allow varying levels of access to their Discord servers based on Patreon tiers. Literally all this change does is give creators the option to do this entirely through Discord rather than using Patreon.
This is nothing new. Just a slightly different way to handle monetization.
