• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Fun fact: Most of the features that people liked about the “new” Windows notepad were just stolen from Notepad++ anyway.

      So you may as well just use Notepad++ and enjoy a better experience, plus about a zillion other things like numerous plugins, syntax highlighting for just about every programming language under the sun, immensely configurable color schemes, etc., etc., etc.

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      This is not enshittification. Here’s where the term came from:

      Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification

      In what way is adding an AI assistant to Notepad either “abusing their users” or “abusing their business customers?” It seems like it’s just a useful new feature to me, that’s still in the “be good to your users” phase.

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        Adding an AI seems OK but per the article it will do it similar to Paint Co-creator. I can already see those types of “features” will get promoted more and more in updates and take more part of the screen.

        Microsoft will want revenue trickling in from Notepad of all places…

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    9 months ago

    I know it’s dumb but I was always a bit disappointed that Microsoft overhauled Paint in Windows 11 with layers and polish. To me, paint is always that terrible pre-packaged program that makes bad art. There was a community around making things in paint, which was noticeably impressive because making decent art in paint is a nightmare.

    Now that it’s actually fairly good… I don’t know, it’s lost its charm.

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      9 months ago

      I can understand and get behind this sentiment. At an old job we had iMacs and I would use Apple’s numbers program to make pixel art in the tables by coloring each cell.

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      9 months ago

      Its not actually good, and many actually good art programs far outshine it.

      So its lost what made it unique, by being comedically bad, and become the death knell of most things in a capital focused system; mundane.

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    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The feature is not immediately accessible in any current Windows Insider build, however, enterprising users have ways and means to delve into the operating system and haul out experiments that are not yet ready to see the light of day.

    A pop-up menu titled “Cowriter” is visible, with options to tweak the format and content of the text.

    Microsoft has been hard at work ruining updating Notepad in recent years.

    Its GUI was updated with the introduction of Dark Mode, and tab support turned up in 2023.

    Something else could have been added to Notepad instead of AI but hey gotta ride the hype train."

    AI in Notepad, as shown in the screenshots, does not seem to make much sense – we’re sure the wise Register readership could think of something more appropriate for the editor.


    The original article contains 364 words, the summary contains 136 words. Saved 63%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • DosDude👾@retrolemmy.com
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    9 months ago

    Now do paint. Or even more useless: calculator.

    No need to “fix” notepad. It does what it has to. If you’re a power user, you can download something else. But I’ll bet it won’t have Ai in it.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    LEAVE NOTEPAD ALONE!

    seriously though. I can’t imagine anything I’d rather have be more basic than notepad. It’s entire literal existence is to open, edit and save basic text files. There’s zero need for additional features or updates.

    I mean, I don’t even see their precious AI in office yet, and they’re getting hard over adding it to fucking notepad? I expected an AI powered clippy to return to office before this shit.

    Throws table

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    Been a Windows user for a really long time. A few times I tried to switch over to Linux, but it just wasn’t doable for a myriad of reasons. Windows 11, I have words with it. Many bad ones, but thankfully there are many users like me that for one reason or another did not switch and put time in to beat the badness out of it via mods.

    Windows 12… I’m not so sure if I’ll even “upgrade” to it. It really depends on how much Microsoft decides to wire up the OS to their servers. Look, I wouldn’t mind at all if I could have “smart” tools with AI assistance, but the problem for me is the lack of choice. Currently, if you don’t use their crap software, what mostly travels over the wire is telemetry, and if you go offline no harm done. But make no mistake, useful AI models are too fat to run on most computers. Heck I built mine with AI in mind, but will Microsoft even give me the choice of using my own AIs? (Here’s a hint, it starts with N, has a V and ends with an R)

    But what if the OS starts requiring it to be online only because of their AI features? Maybe we’ll have to start paying for Windows again in subscriptions to pay for the obligatory AI? Or what about scrubbing options away from the settings so you can’t “misuse” your own device and have to ask nicely to their AI to do it for you?

    There is a road here, and I do not like it. Thank goodness Linux is better than it has ever been.

    PS: As for the notepad thing, I’m completely in agreement that it should remain without AI. Such a simple tool for scribbling down notes should be kept lean, simple and fast. Things that Microsoft and their engineers have long forgotten how to do.

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    9 months ago

    Notepad is the Internet Explorer of text editors. People use it because it comes with your computer, it’s the default, and sometimes it’s all you need for a task.

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    9 months ago

    Not seeing anyone recommend Sublime Text here. It’s free for non commercial use and is fucking kickass and doesn’t look like it came out of the 80’s like NP++

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      9 months ago

      The more I look at modern UIs, which seem to have decided the best way to use the metric crapload of screen space a modern PC has is with gratuitious whitespace, the more I like 1990s UIs.

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        Sure, totally get you there, but part of what I like about Sublime is that the interface is clean, no buttons everywhere, nothing obtrusive, its just a text editor that packs a punch and has a lot of community built plug-ins to do whatever you may need.

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    9 months ago

    I don’t understand all the negativity. An integrated AI assistant in a text editor sounds like it could be amazing.

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      9 months ago

      Sometimes, programs just need to be simple.

      Put that AI shit in Word, notepad is supposed to be a plain text editor and it did so quite well.

      “Do one thing and do it very well” - Unix philosophy

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      9 months ago

      It sounds awful. The draw of notepad is its simplicity. I wish software companies would stop ruining their good versions of popular software.

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        We haven’t seen how this feature will be implemented yet, it could be done without impacting the simplicity of Notepad.

        Personally, what I’d like is a button that pops open a side window where I could either ask the AI questions about the text that’s currently in Notepad or tell it to make edits to the text, and it’ll just do that. Seems like it could be perfectly straightforward if it’s something along these lines, and if you don’t want to use the feature you just don’t.

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          That’s near impossible. It will bloat notepad, at the very least. Longer loading, more chances of crashing, creating unnecessary data-traffic… literally no one using notepad in the last 25 years needed any of this, they used it for it’s simplicity, speed, reliability, all of which it becomes less with features like these. Put that shit in word and o365, where it belongs.

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            The technology hasn’t existed until this year, so Notepad’s last 25 years of usage patterns don’t really mean much to it.

            If you don’t want it creating data traffic, don’t use the feature.

            And don’t put words in my mouth. I would love to try out something like this and could well find it quite useful, depending on the details of how it works. So “literally no one” falls flat right there, I’m a counterexample.

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              9 months ago

              Technology for rich text formatting has existed for many many decades. It was not a part of Notepad. People using it were well aware of this limitation, and used notepad because that technology was not a part of it.

              A non-used feature will still cause unnecessary data-traffic. At the very least to install it and update it periodically, more likely constantly because it will become part of the microsoft telemetry / advertisement profiling / tracking package that is called windows.

              You want the feature. I’m interested, too. But I don’t want the feature in notepad. I want notepad to stay as freaking basic as possible, because the main thing I (and I think other people too) like about notepad is the incredible speeeeeeed at which it opens on any device because it’s “show text” and nothing else.