There’s a user down in the comments with a history of transphobic garbage bragging about not having been banned yet. Liberal inclusivity.

I mean, that’s the best the West has got. Everywhere else, social security is considerably worse and means-tested. Plus, both have got right-wing governments that aren’t exactly fans of social security: the last right-wing Finnish government introduced an ”activation” system for unemployment which was so bureaucratic a lot of people’s benefits were cut for not being able to jump through arbitary hoops, and they’re bringing a similar system back, as well as cutting many, more focused benefits. What @[email protected] said also applies here, since the whole welfare state only exists due to the CIA funding social democrats during the Cold War as a counter to socialism.

There’s many more factors to consider than whether or not a country is AuThOrItArIaN. A country living off the backs of the global south can give its citizens a better standard of living than countries in the global south? Surprised Pikachu.

Let me guess, your examples are Finland and Sweden, two countries that have been gradually dismantling their welfare states for decades?

social security

lmao

Western countries, famous for loving social security.

Why would they be banned on Hexbear for violating another instance’s rules? That makes no sense.

Good thing that never happens with the liberals here.

to “dismantle western propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are posting/commenting.”

That’s one hell of a stretch. NATO and the IMF must be pretty fragile if you can demolish them by posting on lemmy.world from hexbear.

lol, even that site directly states VoA is funded by the US government.

Here’s three words for you: fuck off, transphobe.

This time you’re conflating allowing an entity into a group with endorsing a specific characteristic of that entity.

It kind of is. Would they have allowed a communist nation to join? I highly doubt it. They could’ve easily said, ”no, you’re fascists, go away.” It’s not like getting fucking Portugal to join was essential.

Also you’re still keeping the whole “if they did so half a century ago, they approve of that kind of thing now” angle.

Hungary and Poland are not exactly democratic. You could even go as far as to say they’re ruled by fascists.

The only situation were that wouldn’t be a falacy is if it was an organisation explicitly about that characteristic - i.e. an Association Of Democratic Nations - which let in a country with opposite characteristics, which is not the case here since NATO is a military alliance.

I would agree with this, because at face value it’s true. Liberals are always calling NATO a group of civilized, European, democratic nations though, so you can’t have it both ways.

Their comment history is full of transphobia, so your effort is appreciated but unfortunately futile.

”Why are Nazis bad?”

”Here’s a detailed response.”

”Wow, I’m not reading that, it’s too long and must be crazy.”

I wonder how Nazis managed to worm their way into liberal spaces?

Why did NATO allow a fascist nation to join in the first place? 🤔

Saying NATO is bad = pro-Russia

Liberal arguments at their finest 👍

Are you seriously saying that the Iraq War was anything but a major fuckup by the US? Sure, they can elect their own leaders for a massively corrupt government, and many people are suffering because after the US invasion a lot of infrastructure was privatized in suspect deals. Iraq still can’t produce as much electricity as before the war. Listen to Blowback season one if you want some real info on the buildup and the war.

You’re right in that there are a few million Iraqis that don’t have to worry anymore. That might be because they’re dead, but semantics 😉

”For association” was not the ”cornerstone” of my comment, although it’s pretty damning that the other founding nations would knowingly allow a fascist nation to join. NATO is an organization built on enforcing US hegemony. Fascist may not technically be the right term for that, but whatever. People call Russia fascist all the time even though that’s not really accurate either.

That’s a lot of words for a post that essentially says nothing. Hopefully someone makes an AI version of Fragmaster’s nerd voice, so that insufferable post can be read out loud by it.

The funny thing is that all I said was NATO was bad because they tolerate fascist members and attacked a bunch of countries for no reason…which is all based on facts.

I don’t feel like I’m smart, I’d save average at best…but I truly do feel like the majority of the general public that I am around is less intelligent than I am

Why would that make sense? Yuki has 2 points this season, Perez has 5 podiums and like 156 points. Why would RB downgrade MASSIVELY?

lmao, I really am dealing with a bona fide genius here.

A guy driving for the best team in F1 has more points than someone driving for fucking Alpha Tauri? 😲

anti-NATO

calling out NATO for allying with fascists

right-wing

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

lol, typical liberal cowardice. No comeback to a well argued post? Better block them so I don’t have to think about my worldview in any way!