Every big web site in 2024 looks like the sites people warned you not to visit in the 90s
Don’t invent the torment nexus.
Good news! We’ve invented the torment nexus
In europe we have a “reject all” button for cookies and it’s fantastic
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Be fair, it’s not always working but more often then not IMO.
I’d love somewhere to reporh those assholish designed (so illegal in the EU) ones, like the French CNIL or something?
The consent-o-matic add on allows you to autofil the cookie response and when it doesn’t work you can report it. The ad on is also funded by the EU somehow, can’t remember exactly how. If the add on doesn’t work it means their site is not asking the question correctly.
Thanks I’d look it up, guess CNIL might be a start.
No, we don’t. I had to do this manually, more than once.
We also have this glorious extension which just fucks them all off:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/istilldontcareaboutcookies/
Or you can enable “Annoyances” filters in uBlock Origin for the same effect
Also interesting; I didn’t realise I hadn’t turned those on. thanks!
There seems to be a lot of options. Which ones do I pick? :/
Just turn it all on until something breaks!
I can’t tell: are you joking or serious?
Serious ;)
I used to use Ghostery but removed it and now just use these two filters in uBlock. They’re not perfect but certainly better than not using them at all.
To my understanding, by using this you accept (all) the cookies… I would like a extension that tries to minimize cookie exposure!
Thanks!! Going to try it!
In most cases, it just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it’s needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what’s easier to do). It doesn’t delete cookies.
You’re sort of right. Cookie deletion should be available in browser settings right?
In some browsers, such as duck duck go, that’s indeed available and customizable per site. There is also Auto Cookie Delete extension on Firefox and Chrome that you can use.
Ghostery will automatically decline all tracking pop ups, block cookies, website trackers, etc.
I’ve been using it for a while and love it.
Use I STILL don’t care about cookies. That one is owned by Avast nowadays and accepts all cookies which is clearly not what people want.
thanks, changed it.
IIRC that add-on was bought by Avast and the new add-on is ‘I still don’t care about cookies’
Holy fuck, that is so disgusting. I was gonna ask why that’s even legal but I’ve learned not to ask such stupid, logical questions. Thanks for the tip!
thanks, changed it.
Except on news websites that only give you the choice between “subscribe for X€” and “read for free (accept all)”. So annoying. Still no idea why that’s legal.
That’s not at all legal under GDPR. Nor is having deny all be harder than accept. As is tradition however companies don’t give half a shit until fines start happening.
Still no idea why that’s legal.
It is not
Because newspapers are not forced to give out their news for free. But they have to give you an alternative to selling your data; taking money from you in this case.
Which is illegal under GDPR btw. See instagram being sued for „pay or get tracked“ on their app.
Yep, you can “reject all” if you’re lucky. Then you just have to go through the list anyway and untick all “legitimate interest” to spy on you.
See I want to be able to set that once, in my browser, and then have all of these things fuck off.
Since I started using a VPN, I’ve started seeing that option more. Even still, lots of sites aren’t compliant.
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Using a pihole. Is there any way to circumvent the “Ad blocker detected” Prompt that denies access to view site?
Just use ublock origin.
If you use only a pihole there should not popup any adblocker detected messages since you don’t use one.
They most certainly do unfortunately, I speak from experience. Haven’t delved into the specifics, but I suspect some websites check if a piece of JavaScript or other resource was loaded, if not a ‘you are using an adblocker’ message is shown. It is annoying, but as I can live without these websites they go onto my personal blacklist and I move on with my life. They need us harder than we do them.
This is the right answer. Most webpage servers, if they’re set up to detect adblock, only detect at the client level on the browser. They don’t check to see if their traffic is being routed through a pihole.
This is incorrect. Traffic is not ‘routed through a pihole’, it is a DNS resolver which returns a localhost address for blacklisted domains. Basically it causes your browser to try to load blacklisted content from a webserver running on your local PC, which (for the average user) doesn’t exist and so it gives up loading instead.
More and more websites do detect this and it can be as simple as checking for the presence of a variable that should be set if some piece of JavaScript from an external domain was loaded. In such a case it wouldn’t matter if you refused the tracking code due to PiHole or an adblocker extension. Actually the adblocker would even have an advantage here, as it would be capable of manipulating any client-side scripts that trigger these warnings, whereas Pihole has no interaction with your browser at all.
I use the addon ‘consent o-matic’ it automatically rejects all the cookies and it almost always works. Great addon to add to your (Firefox) browser.
Omg thank you i always only find addons that auto accept cookies but non that auto reject… Finally i can rest
Ghostery does this too if you’ve already got that
I use “I don’t care about cookies” but it’s detected and blocked by cnn. Does ghostery work?
Basically we are going to need more and more addon’s and functionality to mitigate this shit. Ignore all cookies, delete all cookies. Basically code for many specific websites to make them usable again.
I just ran into that the other day. I solved it by installing noscript, setting a permissive default (I don’t want to make my life harder) and blocking scripts on CNN. It works well.
Thanks! But ghostery works pretty well so far and replaces 3 previous addons.
Install it and try.
So I have UBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, “I don’t care about cookies” and Facebook container. Is ghostery meant as a replacement for all of them? PS: Apparently yes. How good it is nobody knows!
I’ve tried it, it works for me on firefox running on windows.
I’d have to check later, not on my PC right now.
The cookies being pre selected is illegal in the EU. Although I’ve seen sites that don’t care and still enable them by default
The ones I’ve seen disable the ‘consent’ bits by default, but then there’s ‘vendor preferences’ where ‘legitimate interest’ is automatically ON in 58 places (I’m not exaggerating; I have counted it) and you have to manually off all of them.
When you click the question mark at ‘legitimate interest’, all it says is some vendors are not asking for your consent to use your data but collect it based on their legitimate interest.
It’s infinitely vague and it has the vibe of ‘I’m not going to ask for it, I will just take it and I will use it for whatever I want anyway’.
Legitimate interest was a concept invented by Facebook which basic is idea is to say “I’ve got my reasons, so it fine for me not to follow the law”.
Here in Spain they started making the option to either subscribe… Or accept the ads/tracking…
Just use reader mode, it bypasses all that shit.
Oh I am sure there are ways to bypass it. Just saying what they do.
Same in germany. That makes the whole thing even more useless, as everyone just is a subscription-based shit now…
I would be ok with it honestly if they like allowed to select sites but they did this “content pass”, https://www.contentpass.net/en , which englobe a lot of sites and lot of them I don’t want them to see a single penny from me because they are shit. If they fix that I am all in on it.
How do I make Lemmy not show me animated thumbnails?
I don’t need my home page to be a GeoCities-esque pile of flashing puke.
Yeah probably not great for photosensitive viewers
There is no such thing as an unintrusive advertisement.
In the long ago if a site needed advertising it was a small banner at the top of the page, and often hosted by the site itself with gasp an actual relationship with the advertisers or sponsors.
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http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
(recommend not actually clicking any links)
I didn’t mind the static ones (within reason), websites need to pay their rent. And not everything can sell something.
But even those have tracking and gross injection code now.
Even emails have tracking pixels at this point. Like, I route all of my email through a client that blocks all outside media without asking lol
you guys can actually solve the captchas?
Actually i never help google to work for free. Answer X-1 fields correctly and one totally not. Gotta do it twice at least, but be consistent. For one captcha they know the answer, for one they don’t. You’re working by helping them identifying objects in that one. Don’t 😈
Damn. Do they state this in their TOS? That you’re contributing to their training?
Dunno. But why else should they offer such thing “for free”? What else gainful there is in millions of people identifying millions of images? If it’s not for training AIs, i would have no better idea :)
They’re getting harder, no doubt about that
I had one ask me why I wasn’t helping the tortoise. Definitely some advanced detection going on.
I give up! I’m a fucking robot. I had to break the news to my mom yesterday 😭.
Real reason why people just stay on the same four big-data-harvesting sites now.
We need to develop more alternatives like federated social media or even completely make web services p2p. And then have them somewhat democratically controlled, or easily able to migrate to alternatives without cost of loosing network effects.
Especially something like amazon / ebay / paypal / ali would be awesome to replace with a “public utility” federated version. They tax so much of the sales and it all goes to psycho billionaires.
Old web revival. Personal sites. Protocol based chat.
Web services are already peer to peer, you mean “decentralized”.
I2P is a “peer-to-peer” internet, so to speak. Not much going on there, but it exists. If you’re old enough, think of it as a separate internet that exists in a Kazaa/eMule-esque network.
Oh I still mourn eMule haha. I always thought it was better than torrent, but torrent won for some reason - presumably because it needed more websites and servers to function and that created a market and a marketing gain. I guess I should check out I2P.
Oh thank god this is gaining traction because I’ve been having these issues for the last years more and more.
For the motorcycles and bikes… Are we supposed to add the squares with the humans riding it? Are they part of the system?
Which gives me the fewest goddamn captchas?
Pretty sure the minimum number of captchas is at least somewhat random
It feels like I have to get 5 in a row and one mistake resets the counter. I’ve been stuck for minutes on end trying to get into a damn website I had to log on to. Whatever happened to that Cloudflare alternative that wouldn’t bug the user?
Right. And then I’m like … Okay but I didn’t select a person’s head. There is no motorcycle in this square.
Then the system tells me I’m wrong, and I get all “I’m the fucking human, asshole”
just get some anti-adblock killing scripts into your adblocker dude.
They just need the anti ad blocker anti air-to-ground guided anti ground ad scripts, welcome to the future.
We’re going to move very quickly to a DRM supported web model. There won’t be captchas, but you will require a locked down device (with no ad blocker) to access the content
Hear me out: part of me welcomes that.
Currently, most websites are awful to browse, and a few are not. If we switch to a world where most are inaccessible to me, and a few are nice, then I’ll spend less time being frustrated by cookie popups and the like.
Like, if a site’s going to be terrible, I almost prefer it just not let me in at all.
As an example, I used to click the occasional Twitter link. Now that I can’t see comments, I refuse, and life is a bit improved.
I’m with you. I’ve started using firefox with no extensions, not even ad-blocker. Whenever I am annoyed by a website autoplaying sound in a popup or asking me to sign up for their newsletter or whatever, I look at the URL and think: this website is dead to me now.
I tried to read comments on a TwiXXer link the other day and was unsuccessful. I thought I was just misclicking or something. You’re telling me it’s on purpose?
That’s stupid as fuck.
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One less reason to click on Twitter links
That’s why everything is an App now, and every website tells you “it’s better in the app”. In the app they have full controll over your device and can access much more data points, while the website is controlled on the users site and might have AdBlockers and other security features enabled, potentially hurting their ad revenue and data they can sell. From a developers perspective it’s a nightmare to develop and maintain website, android and Mac os app side by side. Just having one good responsive website is cheaper, easier to maintain and gives you less headache with app store restrictions, reviews, device incompatibility etc.
It definitely doesn’t take care of everything, but there are apps that run all the internet traffic on your phone through an adblocker. Most of the ones on Android setup a local VPN (a VPN running on the same device that’s connecting to it) and run their adblocker through that.
I think this might be why my parents got ‘left behind’ by technology. It’s not that they couldn’t figure out how to use new stuff but that the last generation of it was shit enough for them to turn their back on technology as a whole. Once you’ve missed a chapter or two it’s hard to get back into the story. I can see myself going the same way tbh!
The more I have to deal with ads, cookies, ads, authentication, ads, data harvesting, ads, password hell, ads, free news article limits, and let’s not forget ads, the more I want to go live in a cabin in the woods.
Of course, those are hardly affordable anymore.
Yeah I see that, too. I’m looking forward to having to have a whole physical computer dedicated for the sole purpose of browsing the Shit Web™ because online services requires a specific browser and OS profile. Not. But the good thing about all that nullshit is that more and more alternatives will come along from people like us who are fed up. So that dedicated computer might not have to be used all that much.
It’s not worth it if I no longer control my own hardware
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