• LiveLM@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    Couldn’t he dodge this by publishing the data on a delay? Say, new flight info only shows up on the website 72 hours after it happened?

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      9 months ago

      It’s just publicly-available flight data. Anyone can get this information, there’s nothing hidden or secret here.

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    9 months ago

    it’s literally delayed by 24 hours so that it’s not a security risk for her. The only reason they’re sharing it is to raise awareness about insane fuel consumption for example when she flies from one side of St. Louis to the other (and back), burning hundreds of gallons of jet fuel for what should have been a 30 minute drive

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    9 months ago

    I’m just posting sources to back up my claims while everyone else just says stuff because they want it to be true. No need for sources when you can just say stuff… it’s like Republicans.

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    9 months ago

    It’s public information. If you have a problem then stop flying around in your fancy fucking jet.

    God damn rich people. Fuck em all.

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      9 months ago

      Ehh, she is still human. She is one of the most recognizable and sought after a celebrities we’ve seen in a very long time. It must be absolutely horrible to be 24/7 in the public eye. But you can’t fight it and she hasn’t learned that yet. Try not to blame her, just be glad we got a level of goodwill that you don’t find in most celebrities, and hope that it continues.

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          You don’t even need to fly commercial to avoid being tracked in this way. If you charter planes then the tracking strategy falls apart too.

          Owning your own plane means that anyone who cares gets to know your rough goings on. For example, we get to hear Harrison Ford get in trouble for accidentally landing on a taxiway in his plane (he was quite reasonable about it)

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        I feel you. Makes sense to me.

        I wonder why someone hasn’t started a Part 135 for celebrities that way they can’t be tracked per se. Rent out planes instead of being owned by any one celebrity.

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        9 months ago

        No one is forcing her to fly around that much. And she’s by no means a new up and coming celebrity but has been dealing with this since 2 decades now.

        So no, she doesn’t get a free pass to use her wealth to silence very deserved criticism of her disgusting global footprint! Heck, she could spend a tiny amount of her dragon hoard sized wealth to donate to environmental protection to offset this footprint. But no, she rather uses that money to sue someone who she knows doesn’t have the wealth to fight her legally.

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      9 months ago

      Only half the country is inundated and riled up to see her as an Enemy of the State and an Enemy of the people. There must be many thousands now who want to see her raped, tortured and killed. She’s been vilified. And she’s not really a political figure unlike Musk who controls a significant part of the worlds communication medium and is politically active.

      Taylor Swift has enough money to protect herself, but imagine someone less wealthy would be similarly tracked and/or vilified.

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        9 months ago

        They’re not tracking her you barely sentient punching bag, they are tracking the plane which is kind of necessary for safety.

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        9 months ago

        someone less wealthy would be similarly tracked

        I’m sympathetic to the perspective, but actually no, someone less wealthy couldn’t be similarly tracked. To be tracked in this specific way, you must have exclusive ownership of plane(s) with tail numbers.

        If you fly commercial and don’t publish your itenirary publicly, then the public won’t know your association with the flight. If you charter a private flight, then again no one knows that chartered plane == you. You have to actually own a dedicated private plane for anyone to use these resources to confidently track you in particular.

        So I’m broadly sympathetic to the plight of celebrities with respect to paparazzi and stalkers and such. But with the availability of charter flights, hard for me to be too sympathetic of someone afflicted by private plane tracking.

      • El Barto@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Just a small clarification: the GOP does not have half of the country. Not even half of the voting population.

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    9 months ago

    If you travel in the same plane all the time, and you own that plane, people will be able to track you. Why not just get a good contract with a private jet company so you can fly anonymously? Even if she wins this case, she will still be trackable until she takes advantage of any of the options she has at her disposal.

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      9 months ago

      Or buy two more private jets and always have two fly randomly across the country while noone knows which one you’re using

      Checkmate

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      Heck she could spend a tiny amount of her dragon hoard sized wealth to offset the environmental impact of her air travel. For example by buying endangered rain forest land and donating it to a public charity. But no, she rather uses her wealth as a legal club to try to silence people pointing out the harm she does to the planet.

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        To be fair, she could do that put people would still fixate on the private flight usage.

        No, obfuscating her travel in charters is the viable ‘solution’ to this problem. Still roughly equivalent environmental impact (actually, potentially a bit more since a charter company might have to do extra empty flights for repositioning), but her travel would be harder to discern.

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          To be fair, she could do that put people would still fixate on the private flight usage.

          Some sure would. But with good PR she could definitely come up on top of it. Certainly better than she fares now. And if someone could pull it off, then it’s her.

          No, obfuscating her travel in charters is the viable ‘solution’ to this problem. Still roughly equivalent environmental impact (actually, potentially a bit more since a charter company might have to do extra empty flights for repositioning), but her travel would be harder to discern.

          That would be the “rich way” to avoid such a problem yeah. But it certainly wouldn’t make her a better person.

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    This is actually an interesting debate because it actually puts into question at what level people should be allowed to track other people. We would not want the government to follow us around, but a private citizen knowing where we are is kind of like stalking and could endanger them.

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    Looks like someone doesn’t know how transponders work.

    Understandable I guess: It’s not really something most people know anything about, but you’d think someone working for her would’ve been like, “Yeah, no, that’s not really how aviation works, they are public by design” before it got to the point where a legal threat was made.

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      They know how it works, but they also know the average person won’t go against a billionaire and the army of lawyers they can afford. It’s a scare tactic.

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        Yeah, but if the cat is out of the bag with respect to her tail number, then it’s just some rando typing in a random tail number in a flight tracking database. You don’t have to be setting up a dedicated service to do this, just using publicly available stuff that would let you track a random delta flight just as easily as some celebs private plane.

        Unless you start declaring the public tracking databases must honor requests to filter ‘special’ tail numbers from queries.

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    9 months ago

    Is everyone else sick of hearing about T Swift? I don’t have anything against her, just don’t want to see or hear her any more.