I saw some people fishing the other day in 16 degree Fahrenheit (-9 Celsius) weather at 4:30AM. They were not ice fishing with a little hut, but standing at the base of a bridge with no shelter or campfire. People are at that bridge fishing regularly when it is cold but that was the coldest temp I have seen so far. Why is it so appealing to them?

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, that’s why my new strategy is to maximize suffering instead of minimize it

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      9 months ago

      You’re right, but you’re ignoring a crucial part of the equation which is the person who is suffering enjoys it or else they wouldn’t be doing it.

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        9 months ago

        If you’re a masochist that’s fine, don’t make others suffer too though

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          9 months ago

          It’s my belief that everyone is a masochist to a certain degree, and those who don’t realize it are in denial.

          I drive a vehicle that burns gasoline and contributes to pollution. I purchase products that come in plastic packaging. I participate in an economy that can only exist by taking advantage of people in other countries where labor is “cheaper.” These are all things that I enjoy doing even though I know they’re inflicting suffering on people.

          If I don’t do these things I pretty much won’t be able to function in society. And I certainly wouldn’t be able to contribute anything that I think is valuable.

          One option would be to end myself, but that would inflict suffering on all my friends and family.

          Another option would be to believe that the good I’m doing will outweigh the suffering I inflict on other people.

          I’m interested in your thoughts on this. Do you think it’s possible to live a life where you don’t inflict suffering on anyone else?