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I definitely really like the quality of discussion on Lemmy, it makes me feel like it’s actually worthwhile to comment and discuss things again. It feels like how it felt when I started using reddit back in 2012 or so.
Yep. Been saying for a while that it feels like old Reddit.
I wonder if it’s a nerd-level thing. Reddit devolved as it turned into another social media outlet instead of a niche internet techie place.
It’s also a volume thing. By the time I reach a reddit comment thread what I wanted to say has already been said, and if I say it again my comment will drown in a sea of heavily upvoted comments. On lemmy you can be several days late to the party and still get both upvotes and responses.
I like the lack of in-jokes, one-liners and endless popculture references.
It’s only a matter of time…
The beans are coming.
the beans and jeans narwhal bacon midnight? poop coconut arms broken
My Lemmy life flashing before my eyes…
According to: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=270 the monthly active users are still in decline… even if we take into account the new way of counting active users, the previous bump comes from v0.19 being added to other servers
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It’s a bull trap
Watching this graph more often than that of Bitcoin
As someone who mostly lurking back in reddit, lemmy sort of forces me to engage (give back) in community. While at first I felt weird, it grow on me to contribute for discussion and hopefully I can start my own post in a community lol.
I think Lemmy is a good foothold for activitypub. Reddit has been going to shit for some time and their userbase is tech savvy enough to actually migrate to something like Lemmy in significant enough numbers for it to matter.
I can only hope it continues to grow like this
Lets be fair, Steve Huffman did most of the work to make Lemmy so popular.
Shout out to the old r/jailbait mod for making in happen!
Hopefully all the communities I follow on Reddit move here so I don’t have to use that site.
There might be a significant number of users here waiting for everyone else to switch over to lemmy. If you start a niche community, it’s a little easier for someone else to be like “It’s kind of empty, but it exists on lemmy too.” What you need is a critical mass of people. It usually takes time and effort to reach that, and someone must be first.
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I think the problem is that theres a lot of niche communities created for an exodus from Reddit that didnt really happen.
If you search for a certain community and find that yeah it exists but nobody has posted there in 6 months…
It didn’t happen in one big exodus, no. But maybe in the future someone will find those old posts and decide to make a new post instead of just concluding there’s nothing and not doing anything.
I do wonder if its a help or a hinderance though.
If someone wanted to start a community they might actually do something to generate interest, nobody wants to put the effort in to build up a community that the mod can just ban them from or they look and go “Its not that theres nothing, theres just no interest.”
.ml needs to start handing out more petty bans to tamp down the enthusiasm again.
The post/comment propaganda seems to have worked as well. Every post is way more active nowadays
That’s it? Wow, a lot fewer people were upset about the loss of 3rd party apps than I thought. We need to add at least 3 more zeroes to that number if this place stands a chance at taking down reddit.
Oh, many more were upset - just too lazy to inconvenience themselves with switching platforms.
I’d say this is only half of the answer.
After browsing Lemmy for a while, you get the sense that the average user here is the type that gets upset about a social media company making changes to an API. That is a very specific type of person and you can see it in the comments.
I’d guess people get turned off by that type of person and leave.
I come here once Reddit and hacker news content is old. This isn’t a place I’d recommend to anyone, unfortunately. There are extremely strong biases all over and deep echo chambers. Users here seem like the perpetually online type. Most perspectives I’ve seen have been heavily influenced by online discourse rather than reality.
I visit this site less and less due to the user base.
I don’t give a crap about the API. Reddit’s system of rando-bans are a fatal flaw to its usefullness.
I dont mean to be rude, but people that have been banned from Reddit coming here does not improve the community.
There are 2 kinds of people who get banned. People who actually deserve it and people who get rando-bans. A rando-ban is something you have no control over. It is caused by things like unwritten rules, nonsensical rules, or the unpaid intern mods having a bad day. Things that a warning could have easily taken care of. Lemmy cannot give you a rando-ban, but if you actually deserve a ban than multiple people can come together and do it.
The perpetually online type is on Mastodon.
Here on Lemmy are the people who disconnected from social media, block or boycott 95% of today’s internet and self-host matrix servers to discuss about self-hosting matrix servers.Complains about strong bias here like it isn’t just as bad or worse on reddit.
Personally, I think it is worse here as there is almost zero opposing voice. On Reddit, there are people from most sides of most topics. Here, in most conversations, there is only one side represented.
Now, I tend to agree with the bias here, on some things, some times. But even when I agree, I want to see arguments from the opposition. Otherwise, I never learn.
Even if you agree with something, you can play the ‘devils advocate’ and say what is wrong. You need to look at both sides.
I for example despise Apple. But i gotta admit their phones are pretty good if you just want a smartphone. Or if everything you have is apple, then the ecosystem is really nice.
Try to understand the other side, and be the opposing person. So these conversations can happen.
I don’t want Lemmy to go after Reddit. I want it to be its own thing.
With that being said, more users would mean having some living communities. Some major communities on lemmy.world like videos are hilariously empty, probably less so than small, local subreddits.
Does it need to?
I… kinda like lemmy the way it is I guess? Sure, I wish some niche-communities were a bit more active (looking at you, /c/malefashionadvice). But then again on Lemmy I actually feel motivated to contribute actively. Because I know my content won’t be monetized by some corporate behemoth. So maybe this is just fine the way it is?
To be fair /r/malefashionadvice turned into a circlejerk of popular people posting fits (influencers?) and very little real advice outside of a preset notion of what was acceptable.
It doesn’t need to take down reddit. I’d like to see Lemmy at 1 million active users though. Just need enough critical mass to be able to branch into more smaller sublemmys which draws in the fans of those subs specifically and creates better curated content.
Yeah, 1 million would be about the right size for a better active community. 500k would probably do wonders too.
at 1 million active users though. Just need enough critical mass to be able to branch into more smaller sublemmys which draws in the fans of those subs specifically
I was responding kind of someone else as well, but where are these numbers coming from?
Is it truly 1 million? Or maybe 500k? Or maybe 2 million?
People seem to be using numbers so arbitrarily.
I think somewhere between 1-4 million would be a good cross section of interests without a critical mass of users
I think somewhere between 1-4 million would be a good cross section
500K (for example) people talking in communities wouldn’t be enough?
How did you derive the 1-4 million number?
Just a really quick estimate based on the size of the subreddits I once enjoyed that by their nature need to be larger. Things like /r/cfb, /r/nba, /r/FreeFolk
I like the idea of a slow increase over time. I remember Reddit did that one chatroom experiment where you started out small. And then merged with larger and larger rooms. Small rooms had at least a chance to hang and chat and the larger rooms turned into twitch chat spam. To a degree maybe the same could be said for comments, on Reddit now I still see thousands of redundant replies to subjects whereas here it’s definitely still fresh if not shorter chains.
Though in terms of niche topics it may definitely need more traffic somehow. I think reddit benefits a lot from its search indexing and if Lemmy ever began to appear in search traffic more like forums did in early Google I could see that improving.
Slow but steady growth is better imo, especially since Lemmy’s moderation tools are still not that good and instance admins often get overwhelmed maintaining their own instances. Some instance admins got frustrated so much, they decided to create a new lemmy backend: https://github.com/sublinks/sublinks-api
Are you trying to get the bots to migrate too?
Every once in a while I check up on what reddit looks like now.
I find the same or similar topics posted, with 600 comments instead of 30, and 570 of those 600 are just whatever’s the first thing that pops into everyone’s mind after reading the post title.
I like it better here.Both sides have their benefits, and it’s a shame there is no good best-of-both-worlds. I get where you’re coming from, I never felt the urge to participate on Reddit because it was so often just shouting into the void and getting buried in hundreds of one-word replies and in-jokes and memes. Here I feel seen, and often feel like my contribution (although mostly just small comments) makes an impact.
At the same time, a huge critical mass of a userbase is completely necessary for niche communities to survive. Maybe not as overwhelmingly massive as Reddit’s, but magnitudes larger than Lemmy has right now. Lemmy has a very distinct userbase slant and if you’re in the target audience (tech, FOSS, Linux etc) you’re probably great here. But even common interests like sports struggle for traction, and true niche stuff has an extremely tough time.
Sports discussion and game threads are actually the only thing I really miss about Reddit, I find the time I spend on Lemmy much more productive/informative and less likely to get sucked down an argumentative rabbit hole.
Yeah, I feel that. Formula 1 does okay (maybe unsurprisingly due to it being tech adjacent), but even huge sports like soccer are mostly ghost towns.
Sports need folks having fluid communication about what’s happening right then and you need enough folks to be seeing and reacting to both the event/game and the comments at the same time for that, maybe one day we’ll get there
At the same time, a huge critical mass of a userbase is completely necessary for niche communities to survive. Maybe not as overwhelmingly massive as Reddit’s, but magnitudes larger than Lemmy has right now.
To confirm, you don’t think we have a minimum population base currently on Lemmy?
If so, how do you make that judgment? How are you measuring that? How are you quantifying that?
To confirm, you don’t think we have a minimum population base currently on Lemmy?
I mean, depends on what you view Lemmy as, right? It’s a great place to hang around and chat (depending on your interests). The people here are generally polite and friendly, and most interactions feel meaningful. It does not currently have enough content volume and niche communities to provide a viable Reddit alternative to most people.
If so, how do you make that judgment? How are you measuring that? How are you quantifying that?
Completely subjectively, though I didn’t think it was an unpopular opinion. I thought most people agreed niche communities struggle here. The exact number of users needed to reach critical mass I have no idea on, just a best guess extrapolating between where we are now and where Reddit was a decade ago. You can use Mastodon as another data point. I’m not on there, but I’m under the impression that Mastodon, too, has a little low userbase to truly feed niche communities, and it’s noticeably larger than Lemmy.
Completely subjectively, though I didn’t think it was an unpopular opinion.
Just for the record, I wasn’t thinking that your opinion is an unpopular one (in case you were addressing me directly).
Its just that I see people use a lack of population in ‘niche’ communities as a failure of Lemmy overall, and using some subjective made-up number to justify Lemmy’s overall failure, when there’s obviously traffic to major communities and ‘life’/activity on Lemmy on a daily basis.
I replied to another comment as well, where a person also used a number to justify an opinion, and it seems so arbitrary to me to be able to make those kind of firm decisions. So I wasn’t just ‘picking on you’. :) No offense was meant.
To me, it seems like Lemmy is currently growing over time, and is too early to ‘declare it dead’ (not saying you did that, but just in general).
Its just that I see people use a lack of population in ‘niche’ communities as a failure of Lemmy overall, and using some subjective made-up number to justify Lemmy’s overall failure, when there’s obviously traffic to major communities and ‘life’/activity on Lemmy on a daily basis.
It’s not so much a “failure” of Lemmy as it is an assessment of the situation (at this point in time). I wasn’t suggesting Lemmy was or will be a failure, nor that it’s dead. I like it here and I’m active most days. There still isn’t enough activity in niche subs for Lemmy to have mainstream appeal, though. Even a broad subject like Poetry is carried by a handful of people, and that is a fairly lively “niche sub”.
We’re currently still in the phase where determined, committed individuals have to spend concerted effort into keeping small subs going, rather than them being self-sustaining.
I do like it here, though, and I really hope the growth continues.
I don’t give two shits about taking down reddit. I just want somewhere else to go, and Lemmy works for that.
If this place ends up with 70 million users, I won’t be one of them. Lemmy isn’t a for-profit company. It doesn’t need growth for the sake of growth.
Besides, lemmy growth isn’t a measure of Reddit shrinkage. Lots of people are just quitting without a replacement.
Imagine hosting an instance if Lemmy had that many users. I can imagine it being a full time job.
I like Mastodon even more, because there are more and more serious accounts with identity behind. Here more troll talk.
I don’t like following people I like to follow topics
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I see a lot of people posting and no one engaging with each other there. Honestly what’s the point if no one talks to each other.
Guess it just depends but I see a lot of people interacting on certain topics and a lot of posts I make get a good amount of activity. I get way more interaction on my posts than I had on Twitter for instance.
It’s what I’m here for
I want to like mastodon but I don’t want to do the leg work of finding accounts. I like the algorithm to some extent, I want help to find things.
I also have trouble deciding how to support the post. Liking doesn’t do anything and tooting or whatever puts it on my page. I don’t feel part of the community boosting topics I like.
I like voting things up and down.
Maybe I’m doing it wrong but I try and get instantly bored because I have to hunt for everything. I really tried.
For me it’s just being able to have longer discussion. I dunno, maybe I can do that on Mastodon but it feels to quick for me. I’ve always liked forum posting, so this suits me better
The network effect is compounded by all the other applications that interop with Lemmy, ActivityPub apps sure but more so KBin and MBin and others that provide a similar service to Lemmy.
