Ah yes, a classic USA move: if a foreign company is successful, they’ll do anything to stop it. If any other country does the same against an american company, that’s unreasonable protectionism and that country needs to be sanctioned.
I think here the point is that the US government seems to be not bothered by Meta’s data collection which by the way has already been used by Cambridge Analytica to swing elections in favour of one of the opponents and most likely used on countless more occasions but it is now super worried about Tiktok.
If they do this they should apply the same measures against Meta and other companies but they don’t. Which is disturbing.
Yes, you have pointed out the subtext that was there all along and pretended like it’s some new argument.
It is about the data sharing. The US doesn’t like companies sharing data with countries that it views as its geopolitical rivals. Big surprise, am I right?
Seriously. Don’t cover your eyes and pretend you can’t see why the government treats US companies different than companies that are directly in the hands of adversaries. They might not care if Meta uses it to profit off of us, but they certainly do care if China will use it to achieve an advantage over us, militarily or otherwise.
Oh sure, it’s got nothing to do with TikTok being increasingly more utilized than Google for searches, launching their own music streaming platform competing with Apple Music and YouTube Music, and being more popular than Meta apps.
It’s about all that pesky data collection… from the sandboxed app… that collects significantly less data than a single browsing section using a Microsoft operating system or interacting with Facebook’s social cookie without even being aware of it…
I dunno what hill you’re trying to die on here. A stupid dancing app that provides a data collection platform by a foreign surveillance state is a plot on the Orville. Nobody is concerned with it competing with Google, Apple orYouTube. It’s so off-base. Google sucks anyway. If people are searching on TikTok it’s because it’s giving better results for them than Google. It’s about who is collecting the data.
No, I think it sets a bad precedent. I don’t think TikTok should be allowed in the US (if the US decides it doesn’t want it as they’re seeming to). Taking the property is going to cause a bunch of what you mentioned.
I can’t order Jimmy John’s on my work computer anymore. Why? Because tiktok is blocked on our work network. What does tiktok have to do with Jimmy John’s? Well I would have thought nothing expect it won’t let you set your delivery option unless it’s allowed to send data to analytics.tiktok.com.
Why is a God damn sandwich shop sending my location to tiktok? No idea, but it’s definitely not just the video app that’s the problem.
My comment wasn’t about TikTok’s quality, so I don’t really care if it’s a useful tool or not. I’m talking about the hypocrisy of USA’s external policies when it comes to protectionism. Replace TikTok with any other product in the same context and I’d be commenting the exact same thing, word for word.
Isn’t this in some way the same as how China bans a number of foreign companies from operating? I don’t think doing the exact same thing is entirely fair but when others aren’t playing by the same rules, it’s a lot less black and white.
Ah yes, a classic USA move: if a foreign company is successful, they’ll do anything to stop it. If any other country does the same against an american company, that’s unreasonable protectionism and that country needs to be sanctioned.
It can still be successful elsewhere. It’s clearly about data sharing.
I think here the point is that the US government seems to be not bothered by Meta’s data collection which by the way has already been used by Cambridge Analytica to swing elections in favour of one of the opponents and most likely used on countless more occasions but it is now super worried about Tiktok.
If they do this they should apply the same measures against Meta and other companies but they don’t. Which is disturbing.
Facebook / Meta was forced to pay 5 Billion USD in an FTC fine over how they used data.
Yes, you have pointed out the subtext that was there all along and pretended like it’s some new argument.
It is about the data sharing. The US doesn’t like companies sharing data with countries that it views as its geopolitical rivals. Big surprise, am I right?
Seriously. Don’t cover your eyes and pretend you can’t see why the government treats US companies different than companies that are directly in the hands of adversaries. They might not care if Meta uses it to profit off of us, but they certainly do care if China will use it to achieve an advantage over us, militarily or otherwise.
As I recall they got Zuckerberg on stand and did their best “rabble rablle rabble” at him, with a few decent questions mixed in, then nothing.
Oh sure, it’s got nothing to do with TikTok being increasingly more utilized than Google for searches, launching their own music streaming platform competing with Apple Music and YouTube Music, and being more popular than Meta apps.
It’s about all that pesky data collection… from the sandboxed app… that collects significantly less data than a single browsing section using a Microsoft operating system or interacting with Facebook’s social cookie without even being aware of it…
I dunno what hill you’re trying to die on here. A stupid dancing app that provides a data collection platform by a foreign surveillance state is a plot on the Orville. Nobody is concerned with it competing with Google, Apple orYouTube. It’s so off-base. Google sucks anyway. If people are searching on TikTok it’s because it’s giving better results for them than Google. It’s about who is collecting the data.
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No, I think it sets a bad precedent. I don’t think TikTok should be allowed in the US (if the US decides it doesn’t want it as they’re seeming to). Taking the property is going to cause a bunch of what you mentioned.
I can’t order Jimmy John’s on my work computer anymore. Why? Because tiktok is blocked on our work network. What does tiktok have to do with Jimmy John’s? Well I would have thought nothing expect it won’t let you set your delivery option unless it’s allowed to send data to analytics.tiktok.com.
Why is a God damn sandwich shop sending my location to tiktok? No idea, but it’s definitely not just the video app that’s the problem.
Well if it’s such a useful tool, it will do just fine in China, right? No biggie.
My comment wasn’t about TikTok’s quality, so I don’t really care if it’s a useful tool or not. I’m talking about the hypocrisy of USA’s external policies when it comes to protectionism. Replace TikTok with any other product in the same context and I’d be commenting the exact same thing, word for word.
Isn’t this in some way the same as how China bans a number of foreign companies from operating? I don’t think doing the exact same thing is entirely fair but when others aren’t playing by the same rules, it’s a lot less black and white.
I’m surprised that people are surprised that a country would favor it’s own businesses versus foreign ones.
I’m also unsure of which countries act differently from this.
I’m not surprised but I’m still outraged at the amount of hypocrisy they are pulling off out of this one.
And if foreign politics won’t take care of it call the CIA and tell it they’re hiding oil under the presidents house.
Ah yes, the US, where no foreign company is allowed to be successful.
Such unsuccessful or banned foreign companies include Samsung, LG, Sony, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Aldi, Shell, Siemens…