The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”
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Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn’t lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn’t hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can’t, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.
For sure. I’m using Lemmy much more than reddit. But it sucks because I really loved Reddit and I still use it to some degree. But when Relay stops working I might just stop altogether. I’m not installing their shitty app.
Why is relay not affected?
Not entirely sure as the dev have yet to comment on why. It seems like he has a deal with Reddit where he is allowed some breathing room to develop and make available a subscription solution. But it’s been awhile now so I dunno. It’s the only app I’ve heard about that is still working.
Reddit still holds a ton of valuable info in niche topics which will take Lemmy years to build, and that’s only if the niche communities here ever see the light of day. I’ve deleted most of the useless content I have there, but the more helpful ones I’ll leave for the sake of others like me who still visit occasionally for answers you can’t get anywhere else.
For sure. I hope that Lemmy becomes one of several reddit-like platforms that can compete against Reddit. It’s going to be hard considering how Lemmy is designed but it’s going to be nice to have a more decentralised social media presence. I would love if something would come and defeat Facebook as well… I only use it to stay in touch with friends.
I use Signal to stay in contact with friends and family. Works well for me anyways.
I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.
I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.
I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.
Less rude? Fuck you.
/s ❤️
Eat shit pal!
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Ahhh, home
Haha. Thank you for setting me straight.
Same here. I think that the only thing that I can do now to add something of value is to participate in good and respectful discussions while sharing content that I genuinely like. A grain of salt ends up adding to a mountain they say.
Just think how thirsty you will be when you reach the top of that mountain!
Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.
“Posts” and “content” are not the same. Most recent Reddit posts are not content. Few people left, but the ones that left were the content creators and moderators. Reddit, the platform, is dead, and Reddit, the social media, wears its skin.
I have enjoyed differing viewpoints with reasons, or examples included. I feel this helps promote continued engagement of the topic especially when presented without hostility.
I think that’s a good thing. Less is more, maybe? Dose it really have to be at the scale of reddit? I hope not. Tbh I hope Lemmy becomes bigger for sure but it doesn’t need to become the biggest thing. The more alternatives the better!
A multitude of competitors.
“Me with my little home server”
I’ve made the switch over and Lemmy feels perfectly viable and improving very quickly especially with the third party app devs working on supporting Lemmy. Reddit won’t die but it looks like it’ll stagnate, whereas Lemmy has got a brighter future.
I deleted 16 years worth of my ‘content’ across 6 handles and moved to Lemmy/kbin. When I do go back to check on Reddit, it’s easy to see that many of the better contributors are gone, the quality of comments and posts, as well as the voting on posts, has greatly diminished. Some subs barely have anything in their ‘new’ queues.
Thanks. I’m happy for no ads no boys
Edit *no bots
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I’m fine with that. Tbh I just want a place to read the news and comment my opinions and not have to wade through oceans of ads.
no boys
What are you, some kinda ultra feminist?
No boys, only men.
No boys, only femboys
Boys are icky and have cooties, it is known
Wiser words have never been said
Well yeah because all the people who cared moved to Lemmy or kbin
it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez’s money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.
A huge tech company paying another big tech company to stroke it’s digital cock?
Never!
Sadly, for some they will believe it and feel defeated and return to reddit thinking it’s true, and watch as reddit becomes the Facebook/Myspace of this era.
How nice it will be if the IPO is an absolute disaster!
They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.
Reddit assisted their competition. Lemmy use doubled.
Doubled? I see posts with user engagement and it’s a wall. Low, low, low, and then boom, astronomical.
It’s still a drop in the ocean for reddit and the people who left (or just spend less time on it) were never the target audience of this “new course”. Reddit will be just fine.
Haha dude, I was a MAJOR contributor on Reddit. I spent HOURS each day posting fresh new content for people to read on various subreddits.
Drop in an ocean or not, if all the content creators stop doing it, the content stops.
Imagine YouTube without LinusTechTips, or Hollywood without any actors. They are, as you say “a drop in the bucket”, a tiny percentage of overall YouTube users.
But that doesn’t matter because most people on Reddit and TV viewers, are passive consumers. The statistics showed that less than one half of users were actually logged in, and a third or less ever posted anything (non-comments).
Trust me, Reddit is hurting. They haven’t won. They think they’ve won but that’s just shock and adrenaline before it wears off.
The users are the content, and if they all leave, there’s nothing left. Digg and MySpace know this.
Imagine YouTube without LinusTechTips
Most of my YT usage is watching music videos or random clips. I don’t think I ever watched LinusTechTips, or any other vlogger, on purpose for that matter so it would remain the same for me. People use platforms in different ways for them.
Yeah I was a big contributor too. Doesn’t matter if they cease to exist, as long as I get enough joy out of Lemmy and contribute back in return
I’m not sure I’d call it a drop, Reddit has a large number of users yes, but most of those are not active users (post or participate daily.)
And that is not touching the massive number of bots that just recycle old content and mass upvote or downvote when they see keywords to drive a narrative.
Reddit isn’t gonna collapse any day now, but what remains now is a lot of rot. What actual users are left are likely going to notice and start to migrate away towards alternatives with actual user interaction and not just a series of bots and trolls spewing the same predictable results.
I’d argue a lot of the people who actually add value and produce content (for fun, rather than for profit) have left or want to. And those people are what grew reddit in the first place by making it somewhere worth going.
Perhaps reddit will end up just like all those sites that just repost shit from reddit… Except it won’t be reddit anymore.
And let’s face it. Even if they only lost 3% or whatever of their user base to Lemmy, it was definitely the coolest, smartest, best-looking 3%.
“the coolest, smartest, best-looking”
Crap, I didn’t realize there were prereqs…
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Partly because the majority of the people didn’t even know there were 3rd party apps lol. Many people don’t even care about the protests. Reddit is too big for it to go down overnight.
The only thing we could do now is build better communities here.
I was one of those people, didn;t even know about the 3rd party stuff until they were nearly gone. The site took a noticeable decline in quality and that’s why I’m here.
I thought Mastodon, Lemmy, and Kbin were all the same thing until about a week before I lost access to RIF. I’m glad I looked into all the Reddit alternatives and found Lemmy. Reddit has been shitty for years anyway.
I agree that reddit won but it was a, pyrrhic victory the content quality has massively gone down. I still have a secondary account there but I only use it to spread the word about lemmy. Haven’t used it in weeks because I don’t want to attract too much attention and get suspended.
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I don’t think the war has been won. This might have been the biggest battle, but it’s going to be the years that tell the story, not the months or the days.
This is like Bush’s mission accomplished. Too early to tell. Thanks to that though I found this nice community.
No they did not win. People just expect people to move out from an historic platform overnight. This just doesn’t happen like that. Like Twitter, they’ll be small events that will make users want to find alternatives and migrate here.
That crisis made Lemmy way more populated, just for that we won in a way
That’s not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn’t won. It’s just that those still on Reddit didn’t make it.
We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don’t think the enshittification of reddit will stop.
Yep, and while Lemmy was rough around the edges when people started looking for alternatives, now there’s a glut of great clients and active communities. Reddit only needs one more screw up before the remaining users find a compelling alternative.
I am not really shocked because the only way to really beat Reddit is by leaving the platform completely as in what many did when Melon Husk took over Twitter. Mass exodus. Express displeasure by voting with your feet and GTFO.
I guess I beat reddit then.
You and I both beat Reddit! 😂
So did I. The only people who claim Reddit “won” are falling for the survivorship bias. Most of us who actually cared are long gone.
It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.
Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.
Yep, same for me. There are are dozens of us. DOZENS.
I also found Lemmy because of Reddit’s fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.
+1, I wouldn’t have even considered moving off of Reddit until all the drama that had happened but once it did - and I found out about Lemmy - I’ve been happily more active on here in my communities of interest. Only reason I go back to Reddit these days is to encourage others to give Lemmy a go.
I am struggling with finding a space for the majority of my communities of interest over here. I curated such a niche homepage over my decade on Reddit that it does not compare being here. But the apps I have found that simulate my experience on my now defunct third party Reddit apps have kept me here, in the hopes that enough folks will migrate over so that communities will grow in the same way they did on Reddit.
I know Rome wasn’t built in a day, and I’m stubborn enough in my refusal to use the official Reddit app, and annoyed enough with old Reddit on mobile, that I will sit here and wait for the same experience I used to get over there.
Same here, and I also hope communities will grow as more and more people move to the Fediverse. Basically it’s the niche parts of reddit that I’m missing but I’ve managed to stay away from it for the most part. I think we need to make sure to generate some content in the communities we are interested, being lurkers won’t help Lemmy grow.
I wouldn’t say Lemmy is better but it has great potential. The mobile apps aren’t as good as Reddit’s third party apps but that’s changing. The content we are getting here isn’t as good and reddit has its history of content to search through. Lemmy will have its own issues we will have to sort out but it can be done if we work together.
I think a big issue on Lemmy that I’m seeing is people making it to be Reddit-no-corporate when I believe it should be is own unique thing. Since it isn’t corporate and thus no ads I think it would be hard to monetize high “karma” accounts so maybe we can get higher quality discussions. But if also seen people trying to create their echo chambers here by demanding defederation when one instance has a problem with a few trolls.
You compare Lemmy and Reddit but I see it like this : Lemmy is the code, so if you want to compare, compare say lemmy.world with Reddit, it makes more sense.
And lemmy.this and lemmy.that, that’s the cool thing, everyone can have a go at making a “subreddit”, with their own rules.
And I’m not holding my breath for ads, “people have to eat” etc will bring them to popular instances I guess, but then you can just migrate if you want to!
Interesting times!
You’re not alone, the growth stats of several instances show that thousands of us did the same move. I now only use Reddit when I search error codes at work and an old reddit post has the answer. It’s gone from my phone and I’ve been on lemmy since the day Apollo was murdered
Same
Also, same
Agreed. I too abandoned both sites and federated. So even though two things I enjoyed were ruined, I’ve come out ahead and better for it. It really felt like getting out of a toxic relationship.
A toxic relationship where I kept begging for just one more hit. So glad I’ve found Lemmy.
Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They’re done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.
Maybe they ‘won’, but I don’t count a pyrrhic victory as winning. It will take years to recover.
They won’t recover.
I would desperately love to know what they estimated the IPO at before and after this whole mess.
Is also worth remembering that the person doing the estimate was insane. Even before all of the process the site was never worth the four billion dollars or whatever the hell that stupid number was.
The site was massively valued because of the user data not for the site itself now that a lot of the user data is gone and not a lot of new user data is being generated the site is less valuable. The websites still exists of course but that was never the valuable bit of it.
I wonder how many users and how much traffic they lost in the process.
I’ve been following the graphs here, and it’s sure seems to be declining. But I don’t know how accurate it is.
Real or faked? Because they have tons of bots and paid traffic to make the site look busier than it actually is. Steve figured that out years ago because he’s a sociopathic liar with access to venture capital and an IPO to defraud.
Oh from the day Reddit went live there have been fake accounts. That’s how Steve and Alexis made it look like people were using the site.
Steve looks forward to the hell of interfacing with shareholders, which makes me giddy. Reddit is now a money machine and no longer a community. The enshitification is well underway.
Hi Aaron, Thankyou for leading me to find Cory Doctorow’s essay on enshittification. I think this should be taught in every higher learning institution in the world, immediately.
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Damn, that meme is cursed. I feel like I need to wash my eyes with bleach now.
Why Garfield has boobs, and why he’s on the back? So many questions…
