Hey all! Friendly neighborhood mod here!
I’ve just been added (along with @[email protected] (HEY SQUID!)) to the OTHER World News community, “worldnews”, totally separate from this group “world”.
The reason being, the mods there had effectively retired. Hurts, the lead mod, stepped away and hadn’t been active for MONTHS, and post and comment reports were PILING up, to a point where the Admins asked in our Discord chat going “Hey, what’s going on with worldnews?”
Which left ME confused, because “world” has a friendly name of “World News” and is generally up to date on the report queue unless two users are engaging in:
Which, (sigh), happens way more often than I’d like, but what are you going to do?
Before they left 5 months ago, Hurts had pinned a question to worldnews asking, basically, “Do we NEED world AND worldnews?” which I think is a valid question.
There are some key differences, world doesn’t accept video links or text pieces, but there’s no rule against that in worldnews, so it’s a little more free-form than world, although both require legitimate news sources.
So for now, consider the discussion OPEN! Keep them both? Close one or the other?
The volume difference is pretty dramatic:
world:
worldnews:
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Edit: The following is a criticism of the moderation practices in this community.
Jordanlund seems cool with comments not only out of the blue attacking others for their religion, but also of using their mod powers to add flaired “context”in support of those attacks when reports of such abuse come in.
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Although there may be consequences to me speaking out, I believe it’s important that I address this issue.
I recently came across a comment here in !world which appeared to be a clear rule 4 violation. Link: https://lemmy.world/comment/8955763 I am not a part of the religious community that this commenter chose to attack. But to me, there was no context or invitation wherein this attack was qualified as healthy community debate. It seemed entirely out of spite and bad faith.
For context:
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
I proceeded to report this comment for violating rule 4. What precipitated next was very concerning. OP, a mod in this community, saw my report of the comment, and doubled down on the comment’s spiteful thesis in a new comment. Again, there is no context that invited debate, it was just dogpiling anti-religious sentiment. The comment is still up, you can see for yourself.
My concern is that the mod should have either:
- Taken action on the report and moved on
- OR ignored the report and moved on.
Either of these would have been fine. I can’t pretend to know about religious context enough to know how this is best dealt with.
However, instead of either of these acceptable options, we have an indefensible scenario. OP jumped into the conversation with more unasked-for debate, quoting a bunch of anti-religious sentiment simply because of my report.
Again, fortunately I am not a part of this religious group. But others on this site probably are, and users should not have to worry about their reports getting dogpiled by mod-flaired comments.
With this comment I ask for accountability from OP and the other mods on this team. What can we do to make sure that users do not feel unsafe reporting content that they may find deliberately offensive?
I don’t believe flyingsquid has an appropriate temperament to moderate a current events community
If this is a pattern I would call for replacement of staff. Haven’t seen evidence to support that yet personally.
I don’t have an opinion of flyingsquid.
FlyingSquid seems fine for the most part, but OP here has routinely pushed some crazy right wing stuff in past comments. This seems like what happened at reddit with certain subs being taken over in an organized way to silence certain viewpoints/content in favor of others.
Supporting organised religion is not a sentiment people should have. If they do, they are always free to leave Lemmy.
All I know is that we need as many alternatives as possible to the Tankie run [email protected]
.ee libs strawmanning against .ml how classic.
We don’t need many, we just need a good one. So nuke the smaller one referring to the larger one.
I don’t think it makes sense to keep them if the mods are the same. If nobody else wants to step up to keep the community going, then focus your efforts on the one community.
Oh, I’m totally willing to step aside and let Squid do it, I only volunteered because the community needed help ASAP. :)
Not accepting video or text pieces seems someewhat limiting. Sometimes those are quite important News.
Also I can’t seem to find the world community.
How do you vet videos, though? Do the mods have to watch each of them in their entirety?
A lot of them that get posted are opinion or aren’t from news sources.
Plus, how is a reader supposed to know where the headline comes from when the link is just to YouTube (etc)?
And on a petty note, lol, I’d much rather read the news than have someone read / spoon-feed it to me.
This (the community of this post) is the world community. [email protected].
This is world. You’re in it. :) worldnews is the other one.
Personally, the confusion ALONE merits removal, but I wouldn’t just do that without engaging the users. :)
Wait so is this the large instance?
Your way of writing EMPHASIS is quite jarring 😅.
There’s markdown support, like this.
I would ask the admins if they can kill worldnews and rename world to worldnews. Or merge it in. Worldnews is clearly the more appropriate name.
I’d also like to keep the posts to news articles from actual sources. Political YouTubers are very low-quality sources for news. (If it’s one of those things like CBS just clipping their live broadcast and putting it under a headline, I don’t like it but I think it’s okay.)
No point in keeping 2 similar communities, especially if they are on same instance.
Hope we will get post tags one day, that would help with filtering if someone really wants this
world doesn’t accept video links or text pieces
Can you have a community redirect to another on Lemmy? Seems like directing worldnews here would be a good idea
That would be pretty cool in this case, but if that became a general feature people might snag up a whole lot of names to all direct them to the same place.
Unless you or Squid (et al?) have some grand vision to differentiate it from world, I don’t see why worldnews should exist. I don’t personally think allowing video is enough of a difference - or should be allowed here. It’s probably just confusing users more than anything. Although I subscribe and post here and not there, so maybe their users find some value in it I’m not aware of.
