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    Add to that going back 2-3 slides every 5mins and you get my professor at uni. Watching his classes was actual torture

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      One of my teachers at uni used a Word document instead of a presentation. And yes, he still read it word for word. It was like a very shitty audiobook

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        There was a guy, I shit you not, that would ask him to go back to the previous slide cause he wasn’t done writing it down

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          Like bro, i’m almost sure the professor will post the pp online. You dont have to copy the presentation… take shorthand notes…

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        Bob The Boomer may have been passive-aggressively trolling the presenter. “I’m not in here with you, you’re in here with me” kind of thing.

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    Oh no my kid’s school just texted me he got a fever I have to go. Hate to miss the presentation, can you post the slides in chat after? Thx!

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    At university, I had a lecturer who took this one step further. Instead of a power point, he used a word document that he read word by word.

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      legere (lat) to read => lectura (lat) the reading event => lecture (en) => lecturer (en) a person giving/hosting a reading event.

      A lecturer is supposed to read the text of a book to students so that they are able to write it down and obtain a copy of it for themselves.

      Books written by professional scribes are incredible expensive, and this new thing they established in Bologna in 1088 – the so called “universities” offering lectures will be a major breakthrough in the history of mankind to distribute knowledge!

      Good to know some professors still honour the only true way of teaching.

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        Pfff this generation is wasting good expensive sheets of paper when good old oral tradition has worked for thousands of years. Writing was invented only 4000 years ago and still haven’t caught on.

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        books written by professional scribes are incredible expensive

        some things haven’t changed …

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        A lecturer is supposed to read the text of a book to students so that they are able to write it down and obtain a copy of it for themselves.

        Does this still happen, with digital and all?

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    Here is my opinion: Slide should have images, diagrams or charts to illustrate what I say, almost never any text. What I say is written in advance in the notes of the presentation that is only visible to me while presenting, but will be readable by anyone who look at the file afterwards. I prepare the duration and delivery of the speech at least three times in full before presenting.

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    It’s even more fun when your manager makes you do a presentation. And he schedules it at 10pm, so that all the people 12 timezones away can attend at their “morning time.”

    But they don’t even bother to join the zoom. The only people attending are also in your timezone up way later than they want to be. And he’s like “it’s ok, we’ll record it for them.” Like wtf.

    And then they go and do stupidass incorrect shit anyway, whether they watched the recording or not.

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    I’ll never forget the one professor who put up a side of code… And had no idea what the class was about. We spent most of the class reading together with him to try to figure out what the lesson was supposed to be about

    Apparently the guy was one of those crazy low-level guys who can do things I don’t understand but build on top of. Guy just constantly looked bewildered by reality, he belonged in the code world

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        Semaphores. It was obviously C++ code with a bunch of threads, but as it was a standalone C++ program it wasn’t really clear why it was lol

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          By low level guys, you mean he knew about circuits and EE? But he got stuck teaching a C++ class but he couldn’t code?

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            By low level, I mean like kernel work. I’m told he worked on one of the 'nixes way back when.

            It was a data structures class, we did Java or Python in the into classes, php & js for Web + db basics and C++ for theory classes. Then you pick your path

            Anyways, the guy taught OS, language design, and data structures. He could code fine, he was just a terrible lecturer - extremely disorganized, no lesson plans. He only wasted the one full class forgetting why we were there, but reading his code (labeled by week) then scribbling on the whiteboard was his lecture

            I guess I ended up understanding data structures and I never fell asleep, so maybe he wasn’t a bad teacher. It was just mostly just assignments, he didn’t really do quizzes and the final wasn’t much of the grade

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              Why data structures weren’t in C/C++? It would make sense to care about structures, cache locality, SoA/AoS and stuff in some language that compiles in native code.

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                Ah, I phrased that ambiguously - it was in C++, all of our computing theory type classes were.

                I just got distracted realizing I graduated proficient in 9 languages and reasonably comfortable in another 3. 2 were from internships, but the rest were all from coursework. The last couple years, I was juggling 2-4 at all times, plus the odd scripts

                I always thought I was really good at picking up and switching languages, but I just realized my program was designed that way.

                That feels like a lot, do other colleges do something similar?

                (I guess you could knock off 3 because we ended up switching every semester in software engineering because cross platform apps were pretty bad at the time)

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                  My undergrad officially required Pascal, C, C++, Java, PHP, Prolog, Lisp, x86 and MIPS assembly. You couldn’t work around those. There was also Tiger, VHDL, and Bash that were required, but you would probably not count as languages. (I’m certainly forgetting some stuff too.)

                  There was a virtual certainty you’d need some more languages, but not everybody would need the same ones.

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                  Once you are in the industry long enough, you won’t even remember how many different languages you have worked with.

                  A good education and experience should get you to the point where you are comfortable picking up and using any language, even if it is new to you.

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              I was thinking that you meant like, machine code, by “low level” and yeah. C wouldn’t make a lot of sense to someone who handles machine code.

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                I’d call that hardware - if you’re code enough to the metal to be writing machine code (or even assembly), the physical architecture of the hardware is part of your code

                Low level generally is one step up - manual access to memory, compiling to an architecture rather than a virtualization layer, etc

                Strangely, the guy that taught OO theory did our hardware class, we built bit shifters and wrote programs in risc assembly… And ONE program in machine code with the promise we’d never have to do it again

                I could understand someone who writes in assembly, but machine code is a nightmare…I think I got it without any mistakes, but my butthole was clenched for 4 hours, terrified I’d have to debug it

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                  Right. That’s my bad. I’m not a programmer or developer, so I conflate machine code and assembly far too frequently.

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          Oh no, synchronization primitives!

          Well, you can end up implementing synchronization primitive if you are writing game. Sometimes game engine is kernel in userspace.

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    Even if I’m only presenting a handful of slides I’ll slap some blank ones on the end just to make everyone sweat over “Slide 1 of 83”. Everyone is pretty darn quiet and glad to help speed things along most of the time.

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    Have you ever been to an office meeting that turned out to be a CEO circlejerk that dragged on for hours?

    But a friend of mine went to the grandaddy of them all, something about state politics, some ambitious asshole making a power play and filibustering for an entire day, he had come prepared specifically to wear everyone down, I think it was a new set of rules and conditions that benefitted his position, something along those lines.

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      CEO of our company does one every single Friday at lunch over zoom. Luckily I have never attended. But my boss does has to eat his lunch while listening to CEO talk about all the ways they doing great when we aren’t.

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          “Oh, looks like nobody’s doing anything during their lunch break, so I’m sure it’ll be fine to schedule a meeting during it.”

          If they’re paying for lunch, I’m fine with it. If not, I’m not fine. My lunch is my time to recharge for the rest of the workday.

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            My manager is salary so they work them like slaves. He works 6.30am to 4.30p every day and even answers emails while vacation.

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      If somebody did that, I’d disapprove of those rules out of pure spite.

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    The comic strip sounds like someone made a plugin to export obsidian vaults to .pptx

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    My best presentation at university was during a small seminar. It was a 45min talk about 3 papers and how they relate to each other. I procrastinate a lot, so I didn’t really do anything besides reading those papers until the day before my presentation. That day, a friend called for a spontaneous barbecue, so I had just an odd hour to actually prepare slides. I managed 8 slides in total, the rest I just impromptu recalled from memory. People liked it and it was the least effort I put in any talk I held at university.

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      Honestly, that’s the right way to do it if you really know your stuff.

      The slides are there as a visual aid or backdrop. The “presenter notes” is where all your bulleted items and prompts for recollection go.

      Also, and this is where a lot of people get it wrong, the slide deck is NOT a useful document for distribution. It is specific to both the subject matter and speaker; it’s analogous to sheet music. A video of the presentation (e.g. TED) is far more useful as we’re really talking about a performance. At worst, there should be “references” page in some appendix, with hyperlinks to actual media that folks can digest on their own time.

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      reading those papers

      Woah there Mr. Overachiever, you’re making the rest of us look lazy…

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      The best presentations are about topics you know well enough to discuss at length, and aren’t constrained by paragraphs of points you need to get through. And a presentation is the best way to explain a graph or diagram.

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    People who aren’t good at presentation making think that they are supposed to convey absolutely everything they are saying and be crammed full of information. I was doing a group presentation sometime ago where my group members insisted I put paragraphs of info in my slides and were worried we would fail for not enough information. Even after explaining that they were meant to guide the audience in what I was going to say, they insisted that it was wrong

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    It really baffles me when people make presentations like this. It’s such an easy thing to correct as well but it just keeps happening.

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    Also: Presenter: Can we hold all questions to the end, please? Thank you!

    The end obviously never arrives.