• noodlejetski@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    I’m not aware of any research that’s proven that phone are listening on conversations and serve ads based on that, just a bunch of anecdotal evidence. there has been some research a few years ago that proved the opposite, though.

    • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      there has been some research a few years ago that proved the opposite, though.

      Could you supply a link for that article? I would very much like to read it. Also, I would want it to be a recent article, to be believable for the current conversation we’re having.

      just a bunch of anecdotal evidence

      Well, we all are just black boxing this, as we do not have access to these corporation’s servers and what data they collect.

      But you have to admit, that in my case at least, Occam’s Razor would definitely point you in a certain direction.

      Edit: You should also take a look at this old article from Vice.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

      • noodlejetski@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        https://gizmodo.com/these-academics-spent-the-last-year-testing-whether-you-1826961188

        this is the most recent one I know of.

        you have to admit, that in my case at least, Occam’s Razor would definitely point you in a certain direction.

        it points me in the direction of you either being in the demographic currently targeted by the ad provider, or you having been shown the ad before without noticing it, and only paying attention after talking about the topic, and experiencing frequency illusion afterwards.

          • noodlejetski@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            7 months ago

            Gizmodo? 2018? Yikes.

            it’s a summary of a paper posted here: https://recon.meddle.mobi/panoptispy/

            in that same article is one from Vice, which backs up what I’ve been stating and assuming

            do I get to say “Vice? 2018? Yikes.” now?

            feel free to link more up-to-date research results.

            • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              Gizmodo? 2018? Yikes.

              it’s a summary of a paper posted here: https://recon.meddle.mobi/panoptispy/

              Thanks for the link. Checking the bottom of it …

              © Copyright 2012-2024 by David Choffnes, Northeastern University. This work is generously supported in part by a DHS S&T contract (#FA8750-17-2-0145), a Comcast Innovation Fund grant and the Data Transparency Lab.

              … and from the paper …

              This material is based upon work supported by the DHS S&T contract FA8750-17-2-0145; the NSF under Award No. CNS-1408632, IIS-1408345, and IIS-1553088; a Security, Privacy and Anti-Abuse award from Google; a Comcast Innovation Fund grant; and a Data Trans- parency Lab grant. Any opinions, findings, and conclu- sions or recommendations expressed in this material are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of our sponsors.

              Ignoring ‘Gizmodo’ for a moment, not sure if its an unbiased paper or not (its a bit ‘sus’), and the date is from research done in 2017 and published in 2018. Today’s corporations most likely do not follow the same practices they did in 2017.

              in that same article is one from Vice, which backs up what I’ve been stating and assuming

              do I get to say “Vice? 2018? Yikes.” now?

              Yep, you sure do, especially since it comes from the article you supplied. The point being that showing proof from 2017 does not necessarily cover today’s situation.

              But it definatley defines that listening in on your phone used to happen back in 2018. Wish we had today’s “word” on the subject.

              feel free to link more up-to-date research results.

              Considering I was asking you originally, you shouldn’t expect one from me. I was asking you about your initial point, since you were replying to mine, and would not have if I already had proof to back it up.

              Anti Commercial-AI license