I think the discussion of “Which gender has it worse” is less important than “how do we make society safer for everyone”
You immediately went back into “Which gender has it worse”. There are no sides here, people just make it that way.
I understand how you feel. There’s an often promoted stereotype that men are large, strong, aggressive, and sexually predatory that informs public perception and behaviour. But it’s an opinion that you need to try get across using a lot of tact, and a demonstrable understanding of other points of view. Especially in discussions like these, as it’s possible for both parties to be in the right, just identifying different problems.
This post comes off as a rant that only appeals to people who already agree with you. You and others aren’t going to learn anything. Try removing some of the energy, especially the anger. Calm it down, don’t use extreme examples. Read what others are saying, digest it, and properly incorporate it into your response and world view.
The vast majority of people aren’t outright lying, they just have a different view of reality that you can learn from
I get that, and it may come across as aggressive, true. That was not the intent. I’m not saying they are lying, I’m trying to say they should stop focusing only on “this group is the victim”, “this group is the predator”, which is the vibe that most people here give. And the other examples (which are pretty common everyday, not extreme, I think, though I did point one extreme case that people know.
Also, it’s pretty tyring trying to write anything here on lemmy since every time you say something someone disagrees with you are “sea lioning”, “you are a troll” or “you are the bear”. (not you, check the other comments). Nobody goes tell them “You should remain calm and have civil conversation”, though.
Also, it’s pretty tyring trying to write anything here on lemmy since every time you say something someone disagrees with you are “sea lioning”, “you are a troll” or “you are the bear”. (not you, check the other comments). Nobody goes tell them “You should remain calm and have civil conversation”, though.
Totally, they’re really not helping. I’ve replied to a few suggesting they calm down, but most seems dismissive or otherwise not worth the time. I wouldn’t have said anything if I didn’t think you were being sincere. I genuinely think you could be a force for positive discussion.
This whole post and it comments are quite depressing for me, as I just see people with valid points getting so passionate that they’re both talking past each other (yourself included). It raises defences and no one learns anything
You immediately went back into “Which gender has it worse”. There are no sides here, people just make it that way.
I understand how you feel. There’s an often promoted stereotype that men are large, strong, aggressive, and sexually predatory that informs public perception and behaviour. But it’s an opinion that you need to try get across using a lot of tact, and a demonstrable understanding of other points of view. Especially in discussions like these, as it’s possible for both parties to be in the right, just identifying different problems.
This post comes off as a rant that only appeals to people who already agree with you. You and others aren’t going to learn anything. Try removing some of the energy, especially the anger. Calm it down, don’t use extreme examples. Read what others are saying, digest it, and properly incorporate it into your response and world view.
The vast majority of people aren’t outright lying, they just have a different view of reality that you can learn from
I get that, and it may come across as aggressive, true. That was not the intent. I’m not saying they are lying, I’m trying to say they should stop focusing only on “this group is the victim”, “this group is the predator”, which is the vibe that most people here give. And the other examples (which are pretty common everyday, not extreme, I think, though I did point one extreme case that people know.
Also, it’s pretty tyring trying to write anything here on lemmy since every time you say something someone disagrees with you are “sea lioning”, “you are a troll” or “you are the bear”. (not you, check the other comments). Nobody goes tell them “You should remain calm and have civil conversation”, though.
Totally, they’re really not helping. I’ve replied to a few suggesting they calm down, but most seems dismissive or otherwise not worth the time. I wouldn’t have said anything if I didn’t think you were being sincere. I genuinely think you could be a force for positive discussion.
This whole post and it comments are quite depressing for me, as I just see people with valid points getting so passionate that they’re both talking past each other (yourself included). It raises defences and no one learns anything