On one hand, yea I don’t want brain damage. On the other hand, if it means I can move robotic limbs after being paralyzed, maybe it’s still worth it?
Like the idea of having neural interfaces that don’t penetrate the brain is obviously great, but if that tech doesn’t come for another 50 years, what are the current people going to do instead?
I’m not on the waiting list for Neuralink, but if I’m gonna be honest, the hate for it is over amplified.
I don’t think the concept is bad. I take a medicine that may give me cognition problems when I’m very old, but it’s remarkably effective for me right now and provides a significant quality of life improvement. So, I’ve chosen to stay on it.
That’s different I think though from Neuralink as it is today. There need to be stringent safety measures in place and controls on testing. We’ve come a long way on neurology, but we still have a lot we don’t understand.
if it means I can move robotic limbs after being paralyzed, maybe it’s still worth it?
I don’t mind the progress in science and technology.
I don’t mind sacrificing some animals for that goal.
The really terrible thought is that Elon is allowed to decide these things.
Is it terrible that Elon can decide these things? Because no one else is as close to succeeding, and Elon’s not forcing me to do it
Yes. He is famous for childish & narcissistic & choleric behaviour and nobody should trust him with any serious stuff.
Ok but you haven’t addressed the point that no one else is as close to doing it…
No need to ‘address’ thin air.
Experts are doing things. Elon isn’t doing things (except boasting his ego and manipulate people’s feelings etc)
When is Elon releasing the Neuralink chip with Full Self Driving Autopilot?
For doing chores, going to work, school, listening to your SO complain about something. The applications are limitless!
I spend all day oiling up supermodel’s bodies and I would love a way to escape from that.
Sounds just like the Rick and Morty episode “Night Family”.
Went great for them!
I don’t need an implant to go into a fugue state. Just drugs.
Not much can’t be solved with right drugs.
Heck, even “I did too much of the drugs” can usually be solved with drugs.
You heard it here folks. Eat your drugs. Say no to school. Stay in vegetables.
No lie … if they could make a chip that like … Shuts off cognition while I’m at the gym so I don’t have to experience it … I’d consider it.
I really hate working out.
have you seen the show Severance? This is exactly the premise of that show.
When he lands on Mars or gets a vacuum train running.
He’s gone from suck to blow.
Great. Now I have an image of Elmo in a maid outfit with a vacuum.
I wouldn’t mind him dusting my house if you get what I’m saying.
You wanna Fuck Elmo?
Don’t be so crass, it’s be more making love or hiding my two inch sausage.
Thanos style?
What a pic.
*dick
This is the best summary I could come up with:
But anyone who’s ready to raise their hands for brain surgery might want to hear what one of the Neuralink co-founders recently said during an interview with the Wall Street Journal.
The Wall Street Journal podcast The Future of Everything recently sat down with Dr. Benjamin Rapoport, a neurosurgeon who co-founded Neuralink with Musk and a team of scientists back in 2016.
Rapoport left Neuralink to start his own company called Precision Neuroscience and one specific part of the interview really stood out to us.
Brain-computer interfaces have made tremendous strides in the past decade, allowing people to literally control machines with their thoughts.
Companies like Musk’s Neuralink tend to get all the headlines, but there are a number of firms, including Synchron, Paradromics, and Precision Neuroscience.
Neuralink has received plenty of criticism over the years, with MIT Technology Review calling it “neuroscience theater” back in 2020, and horrifying allegations of monkey torture were revealed in 2022.
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Are you trying to suggest that the guy who thought driving Teslas in tunnels underground was the most efficient method of transportation shouldn’t be trusted with inserting chips into people’s brains?
He didn’t actually think it was the most efficient. It’s way worse. He knew he could get a proposed high speed rail line killed so it wouldn’t cut into his car sales. He did not care one bit what happened after it died. Everything else was his PR team.
And also all our monkey cousins died. :(
Oh for sure. He was absolutely sabotaging the proposed train network and it unfortunately worked…
The train from LA to Vegas is under construction. The problem in Vegas is that the casinos don’t want you leaving their property unless you’re headed to another property they also own. Musk’s tunnel just goes to the convention center and is obviously not a serious solution.
I’ve been doubting all the claims about the guy that had the chip installed too
This is older news. The company is competing with PETA in most animals killed.
What’s the story on PETA killing animals?
High ideals but no means. They become hoarders and run out of money. Also it’s an org that long ago stopped being healthy.
They are out of money?
How did they stop bring healthy, in your opinion?
I’m saying that they don’t bring in enough money to truly be a no kill org. Essentially they are saying one thing and not doing it themselves.
As far as the org, it’s my belief that it started out with people who genuinely cared for animal welfare and wanted to do something about it. Over time the psychos edged out the good folk and now we get idiots breaking into university primate labs and releasing monkeys on the street.
Are they still doing that? I haven’t heard about anything recently.
My understanding is they have been following the laws while other more extreme groups are now doing the extreme work.
My understanding could very well be wrong though.
Frankly I’ve not paid attention over recent years so we may both be wrong here.
They have shelters that euthanized a high number of animals. They have also stolen animals from owners including homeless people and children.
Euthanasia as in mercy killing?
Your beef with PETA is that they euthanize sick animals when shelters can’t afford to?
It’s not mercy killing when the animals weren’t suffering and weren’t voluntarily given up. It’s murder for the sake of their agenda.
So PETA doesn’t euthanize sick animals?
>you think euthanizing sick animals is bad?
>PETA euthanizes healthy animals as well
>you think PETA doesn’t euthanize sick animals?There isn’t a single thing I can say to convince someone who isn’t arguing in good faith.
Am I arguing or using the Socratic method?
Have you always felt the Socratic method is bad faith, or just when you already have a strong opinion?
You are arguing in bad faith
Asking for clarification is bad faith?
Euthanasia as in animals, no matter the quality of life, adoptability, and years left, are put down by the thousands because they’re inconvenient to keep alive and get adopted while PETA preaches that killing animals is wrong. Also, did you read the bit about them kidnapping animals from kids and old people?
Plus they’re cowards without the courage of their convictions. When I was growing up their protests included throwing red paint on people in fur but they wouldn’t do it to someone in biker leathers. One got them shunned and laughed at, the other would get them killed like the animals they stole.
TL;DR their whole schtick is to either destroy others’ property or steal loved members of families who have fur while killing many more animals than they save.
How many family pets have they kidnapped in total?
How many are you comfortable with?
I am just asking the total number that you are aware of?
Is it just 1? Is it 5? Is it 8 million?
Consider that any number more than “zero” pets kidnapped and killed by a private entity is too many.
So is the number 1 time, 5 times? What is the situation?
12 year old article, here’s newsweeks factcheck from a few years ago.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-peta-responsible-deaths-thousands-animals-1565532
TL;DR: Domesticated animals deserve death. More specifically, because they letting them live is “inhumane” because they won’t thrive without human influence—which they’re strictly against.
IMO: These people are fucking psychopaths.
Great job falling for animal industry propaganda
Have you stopped eating cows, chickens and pigs? If not, you, like PETA, believes they deserve death.
But do you have a non biased source not funded by the meat industry?
The website has receipts. Feel free to actually read them.
So… No, you don’t.
And like PETA, you also believe certain animals are deserving of death.
I don’t know, man, I think you might be a future member.
If you had not plugged your metaphorical ears and doubled down on an ad hominem, you would have seen that some of those receipts are self-reported filings from PETA themselves to the government.
I would link the definition of “ad hominem” for you, but let’s be real: you’re not going to read that either.
It is an ad hominem to point out that like PETA, you are responsible for the death of animals?
My friend, did you not see that they are employing “The Socratic Method”? Whoever calls Socratic method first wins, those are the rules, just like calling “shotgun” to claim the front car seat.
I’ve recently learned the /s sarcasm tag is a reddit thing. What’s the term for this though and is it allowed on Lemmy? “BrO, I aM uSiNg ThE sOcRaTic MeThOd. AnSwEr My QuEsTiOn, bRo.” It is a lot more tedious to type.
Edit: in all seriousness, this thread sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole about the misuse of the socratic method. I landed on the page linked below from the University of Chicago on how they employ a modern version of the method, it articulated some of the issues I have with “AnSwEr mY QueSTiOn, bRO” bros. Key passages:
The Socratic Method is not used at UChicago to intimidate, nor to “break down” new law students, but instead for the very reason Socrates developed it: to develop critical thinking skills in students and enable them to approach the law as intellectuals.
And emphasis is mine;
The day of the relentless Socratic professor who ended every sentence with a question mark is over. University of Chicago professors who rely on the Socratic Method today use participatory learning and discussions with a few students on whom they call (in some classrooms, randomly) to explore very difficult legal concepts and principles. The effort is a cooperative one in which the teacher and students work to understand an issue more completely.
Why is his face so punch-able?
I think it’s 'cause we know more about him. I think if we knew he was a whimsical dude and legitimately trying to help people instead of enriching himself, we’d see these pics and give him a bit more of a pass.
Because you have violent tendencies that cloud your clarity of thought
Because he looks like a smug bastard
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Oh you thought that was for damage prevention? No it’s actually to make sure it gets wet. I heard the Cybertruck’s trunk department QC’d it.
If you saw the build quality of Teslas, and his handling of Twitter, and him calling a diver a paedo, and you still thought “I should let that man perform medical experiments on me”, then you probably fucking deserve it tbh.
Just got for it. What’s the worst that can happen? You get double brain damage?
Eh. He’s an asshole of the highest order but I imagine some people are willing to take the risk, given the impact it could have on their lives.
I’m talking people who just exist at the moment and something like this might be beneficial to them.
To be 100% clear, because yall some bitches at times. I find Elon an abhorrent person. Twitter is wank, Tesla is dead in the water and the boring company is just that.
