Guys! I have this genius idea.
Let’s pay them to stop the strike!
It’s so simple. Give them a reason to keep doing their jobs, and this whole thing can be over with. Amazing.
Our government can’t pay doctors, but it can give away trillions to private corporations and constantly raise the pay of politicians.
Almost like shitstains like Tories shouldn’t ever be elected. It’s amazing how dumb a certain percentage of the population is.
I’m interested, but how do we get our mates from Eton to profit from this?
I would expect nothing else from the Daily Fail. That paper is a crock of shit.
Toilet paper is better, right?
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You just described the left part of left vs right.
I disagree.
Left is more than wealth. Left is often reffered to socialism or liberalism. Either cases have at its core nothing to do with wealthy at all. Its not because your local politics have the left as wealthy fuckwads that this is everywhere.That said, dont get me wrong, this is some terrible shit to say and the wealthy should piss off.
A) Liberalism is not left wing
B) Socialism, at its core, is about seizing control of the means of production, as it is they which create wealth.
Liberalism is the ONLY left wing.
The principle of “let consenting adults do whatever they want” is absolutelly compatible with some people having almost all of the money and others starving, but the principle of “the greatest good for the greatest number” is not.
Liberalism (the first) has nothing to do with Left (the second).
Now if Liberalism was actually about maximizing Freedom in all its senses, then it would end up mainly concerning itself with how Human Basic Needs and Money and Ownership Law (mainly of Land) are used to limit the Freedom of most people, but “strangelly” I have never once heard or read a “liberal” mention how the very structures that keep a few in wealth limit the freedom of everybody else.
Trully thinking liberals could end up as lefties but they always stop at the boundary of reducing wealth discrimination, liberalizing access to land anf in general doing things that would free people who are born landless (i.e. most people) from being forced to work for others under other people’s conditions for a roof over their heads and food on their tables.
De facto present day liberals as are hard right (though socially liberal, they’re extremelly conservative in everything else).
Most people who call themselves liberals don’t even know what that word means, and just think it means gay rights and anti racial oppression.
That’s some authoritarian delusion. Liberalism gives everyone tools to achieve their own goals. What you want is to erase individuality for some imaginary greater cause. Which is exactly what all and every totalitarian regime is about.
BULLSHIT!
Libertarians are for example in favour of Private Education, something which gives better tools to those born from wealthier parents who can afford the better schools than to those born from poor parent’s who can: providing people who were lucky to pop-out of a wealthier vagina more/better tools hence more/better chances in life than others is literally the opposite of Meritocracy.
Ditto for Inheritance legislation: it makes even the most inept, lazy-ass, destructive scion of a wealthy family out there have far more chances and power than even the smartest, most hardworking, most able creator out there from poor families.
And lets not forget keeping Land Ownership as is now locking in centuries (in some countries millenia) of the most anti-meritocratic methods of acquring it and a gigantic advantage which is passed down the generations through inheritance, all this, again, the very opposite of a “fair playing field where everybody has a chance”.
Libertarianism just wants to remove the Power of the State, a system which is managed by people elected by citizens in a “all votes count the same” process, by the Power of Money, which is mainly the product of past injustices, dynastic and were power has an extremelly uneven distribution (with some having hundreds of billions of times more power than others).
By wanting to weaken the fair playing field (one person one vote) in access to power which is vote by severely reducing that which that power controls (i.e. reducing the State) and replace it by an extremelly unever form of power, Money, which is so unfair that, like in the times of the Monarchy, it is Power which is mainly inherited, Liberarians are some of the most anti-Democratic anti-Freedom people out there, not to mention extraordinary hypocrites.
You can disagree with me all you want. You’re extremely misinformed, though. An entire life of propaganda made you believe some weird shit, but socialism is unequivocally about wealth distribution and liberalism is undoubtedly right-wing.
I didn’t understand your comment about local politics. Mostly because you can’t possibly know where i’m from, and calling the left ‘wealthy fuckwads’ is just bizarre.
So you’re trying to gaslight people into thinking that wealthy people only represent the left or the right? Rofl.
No. I’ve read enough theory to know that the left understands the world as a struggle between two classes: capitalists and workers.
The right believes in meritocracy, the invisible hand of the market, and risking capital as the most valuable asset.
Of course there are poor people leaning right. There is not a single leftist billionaire, though.
…oh, and in case you’re from the United States (you act as if you were): Both of your political parties are right-wing. Your ‘radical leftist politicians’ are centrists at best. Right-wingers don’t become leftists because they’re ok with giving some human rights to the population.
No. The true left is all about freedoms and rights - liberal democracy. What you call left is the same authorisation shit as right.
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It works that way pretty much everywhere but the US.
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Nice subject change!
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Cringe
Yes, pseudo-lefties are cringe indeed.
But didn’t you hear? Nobody wants to work!!!(for slave wages and predatory insurance plans)
From the paper that brought you: “Hurrah for the Blackshirts” an editorial from 1934 reporting on Hitlers blackshirts, by the then editor Viscount Rothermere who’s son the current Viscount Rothermere still owns it… same shite different arsehole…
Daily Mail is considered expensive toilet paper by a lot of Brits.
The worst thing about it is that it’s not even available in two-ply.
for an expensive toilet paper brand, even they try to save on manufacturing costs
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GB News and Talk TV are the Fox News of Britain.
I’d say the Daily Mail are more like an amalgamation of Breitbart and TMZ.
Daily Hate Mail
Yep, the Daily Fail. Fucking Murdoch rag.
It’s owned by Viscount Rothermere, another ultra rich wealth-hoarding media mogul.
Waiting lists are always at an all time high.
That’s the Daily Mail for you.
It’s a tabloid for the working class that actively promotes shitting on the working class. Unfortunately, they’re as popular now as they ever have been.
But if healthcare is a human right, then they should not strike as that is violating the rights of others?
If health care is a human right, it should be available to everyone, paid for by those who have the money. And those who provide it of cause should be paid well, from doctors to nurses to assistants.
“And it wouldn’t be surpising If there’d be another rising Said the man from the Daily Mail”
Amazing how we’ve gone from “clap for the NHS they’re amazing” to “you want fair compensation? psst!”
Also if the strike has only been going on for a little while then how does the Daily Mail account for the fact that NHS quality has gone down every year of the decade long Tory rule.
Maybe it’s not the doctors that’s the problem… maybe it’s the politicians (including Labour since Wes Streeting is chomping at the bit to carve up the NHS and continue the Tory legacy)
They got their claps, what else do they want?
The daily fail
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It’s the Daily Mail… What were you expecting. Even toilet paper has more worth
Toilet paper is actually priceless. It’s very important. I think you meant “used” toilet paper.
I walked into a doctor’s office. The guy referred me to someone by circling a number on a piece of paper then charged my insurance 250.
Spot the American.
They’re striking because they’re greedy? But to strike they’re losing money, so…
Either way doctors have insane hours.
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The doctor I know works 12 hour shifts, has a really nice, but nowhere near million dollar house, and isn’t ER or ICU. Anecdotes are just anecdotes.
Why is written ‘harming’ in single quotes? Is this some opinion that someone has had that they are publishing as fact?
The government is just holding out in the hope that public opinion on the strikes turns on their favour or that the nurses and doctors run out of savings to keep striking.
I read a while back that it’s to insulate the paper from any potential defamation lawsuits, the quotes are there to ensure the difference between “we believe the strikes are harming patients also this person says they must stop” and “this person believes the strikes are harming patients and also says they must stop”
It’s actually very common practice in the UK, most headlines make use of quotations to endorse a position by means of quoting an opinion and providing context to that opinion.
In this specific case it is of course bullshit, the language of the headline is deliberately worded to incite anger against the healthcare professionals and the quotes are added to preserve the emotive qualities of the headline when read by the layperson while insulating the paper from legal risk.
Yeah it’s in the first line of the article under the headline.
It’ll be paraphrased from something a Tory said and I suspect the quotes cover the “paper” from libel since they can then claim it was opinion rather than fact
Yes, the health secretary, it literally says so in the headline.
If junior doctors are paid so badly wouldn’t a better response to this be to quit and do something else or move to a different country? You help yourself and eventually the NHS has to realise that only paying a gazillion bureaucrats whilst having too few and too badly paid doctors isn’t going to work out. To be fair this is already happening, many doctors have left and we have 22 month waiting times… Time is approaching where NHS, the huge bureaucratic behemoth, is dismantled and replaced with something better.
They are leaving.
Drexit (“Doctor-Exit”) is the exponentially growing trend for doctors to walk away from their jobs in the NHS, either to new healthcare systems overseas such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand or perhaps worse, into new professions altogether, leaving behind their well trained medical brains. This exodus has been gaining momentum for several years with the workforce now at breaking point.
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/02/06/why-are-so-many-doctors-quitting-the-nhs/
Four in 10 junior doctors are actively planning to quit the NHS as soon as they can find another job, according to a survey by the British Medical Association. The survey, released as part of the BMA chair of council Prof Philip Banfield’s new year message, found poor pay and working conditions were among the main reasons for junior doctors wanting to leave.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/28/four-in-10-junior-doctors-plan-quit-nhs-survey
“If junior doctors are paid so badly wouldn’t a better response to this be to quit and do something else or move to a different country?”
They are, and they have been…? The NHS has been hemorrhaging staff since well before the pandemic, from nurses, senior nursing staff, registrars, junior doctors and consultants… I know at least 5 people myself from various hospital/GP health care trades that have upped sticks and moved to Canada, Australia or New Zealand… because of exactly these problems. They get payed better and have a higher quality of life in the commonwealth than back here…
