Thinking that someone without a formal education is somehow beneath you.
On the flipside, the belief that someone with a formal education is somehow beneath you or brainwashed for it.
Ten years ago I never would’ve believed that people like that exist, or that they think Science is evil for some reason
Science is neutral, but can be used for evil.
Science is not neutral. It is biased towards the truth.
Basically judging people in groups doesn’t work, you have decent and shit always wrapped together.
Not sure if you understood the assignment.
Everyone is below someone else somehow, since you use that word. I’m beneath my friend in film knowledge. I’m above my friend in gardening skill. In this sense, one can clearly be beneath someone else in education. Or height. Or travel experience.
You meant that regardless of education, we all have the same human worth. That’s true. But yeah you can absolutely be beneath me somehow
Right-wing politics
People judging people’s level of intelligence based on how they lean politically, for me.
You’re right. A right-winger doesn’t always adopt a right-wing ideology because of low intelligence. Sometimes, they adopt right-wing views just because they’re evil instead!
I guarantee you hold right wing views on certain things.
like?
I can’t think of a single thing in which I hold right-wing views on, but do enlighten me; if you know enough to guarantee such a bold claim, I’d like to hear it.
How are you going to solve Afghanistan?
Did you really cite Afghanistan, of all issues, as the point that you’d be able to sell to me that I hold a right-wing view on? I knew the bar was going to be low, but not this low.
It should be a nice challenge for you. How are you going to solve Afghanistan? has a long, complicated history, with many parties from different political ideologies ruining the nation.
Now I know why you don’t have any friends. People aren’t low iq or evil just because they have a different opinion man.
I’m so fed up with the “different opinion” justification. “It’s just my opinion” isn’t a defense. Nobody said you can’t have your own opinion. It’s just that, often times, the content of an opinion can indicate low intelligence or evil intentions. For this nuance to be lost on you, there is something seriously fucked with your capacity to reason and comprehend words, so I’m going to assume that you full well know this shit, but you just want to be bad faith.
It’s that their ‘opinions’ are of who should or should not have rights, for me. And the fiscally conservatives who are the exact same thing but with extra steps.
If you choose a perspective that outwardly chooses to harm people, and you are not of low intellect, then you are simply choosing to harm people. That is evil. Choosing to bring harm to people over other alternatives is wrong, bad, and as an ideology, evil.
You just gave me a new one: “people who refer to someone’s political opinion as “evil” just because they don’t personally agree”. It’s not like we’re discussing Nazis here man.
But we are? Right-wing ideology consists of Nazism, among other things. That’s where I generally make the distinction. People who are moderately right-wing are typically so out of ignorance, but those who go further to the right into things like Nazism and fascism, then that’s when they’re just outright evil.
So the same could be said about the left-wing ideology because it “consists” of Leninism? How is this making any sort of sense to you?
This response is a gross oversimplification, and it isn’t the point you think it is. It makes a lot more sense to me because the premise of left-wing ideology as a whole isn’t overwhelmingly abhorrent whereas right-wing ideology’s premise is. What you’re arguing is a logical sequence that is impossible for me to connect, as the problems I have with Leninism are not the same as the problems I have with Nazism. Yes, you could argue that both Leninists and Nazis take a more authoritarian approach to executing their ideology, but stay on focus here. I may not agree with the methodology that Marxists and Leninists use for their method of achieving communism, but that’s not the primary problem I have with right-wing ideology in the first place. I have the same goal as Marxists, Leninists, and Marxist-Leninists; there’s just a different approach on achieving it. The caveat here is that I don’t agree with right-wing ideology at all, to an extent where I find the goals of the right just as abhorrent as the means they’d operate under to achieve them.
The original point I was making is that right-wing ideology stems from ignorance and/or a lack of human decency. In no way does me saying this contradict with the notion that Leninism isn’t on the same degree as right-wing ideology in this sense. The reasons why right-wing ideology, in my view, stems from ignorance and or evilness are not applicable to left-wing ideology whatsoever.
In simple terms, right-wing ideology is not strictly evil because of its approach, but its entire premise is fucked in my worldview. Left-wing ideology, no matter what methods it undergoes to achieve its logical conclusion, doesn’t align with the premise of right-wing ideology because, otherwise, it obviously wouldn’t be left-wing at that point anymore.
So, let me point the question back at you: how is this making any sort of sense to YOU?
Just because Leninism is an extreme ideology, doesn’t mean the point that you’re trying to sell makes any sense. My fundamental issue with right-wing ideology isn’t extremism or authoritarianism.
Don’t bother arguing with them, they’re from sh.itjust.works. Probably a right-wing douche.
Well said! Although I doubt the the guy has enough critical thinking to understand what you’re saying.
Leninism is good, actually.
The face of right-wing politics is wedge issues and conspiracy theories. It’s not as if people are being judged for believing in a smart conservative fiscal policy because that is no longer something the modern Republican party represents.
That’s a gross blanketing.
Yeah, no it’s pretty fair assessment of the party. You as an individual may have different beliefs, but your differing beliefs don’t represent the party and their rhetoric.
FFS the ex president convinced a mob of people that the election was rigged and they stormed the Capitol Building looking to capture/kill the legislators who were confirming the results. If a republican president of the United States doesn’t represent the republican party then who does?
You can probably actually do this reliably in cases where those political views work against the persons interests. It’s not like people voting against their own interests is an uncommon phenomenon.
It’s very possible to vote against your own interests for the good of society though- a billionaire might vote to increase taxes on himself, for example.
One of the many issues with the majority of right-wing voters in the US is that the votes they cast are against both their best interests and the interests of society, and that’s what makes them evil and/or stupid.
The irony.
What’s the irony here?
Being a baby. What do they even know?
I have literally never met a more uneducated cohort. Absolutely shameful.
Mb it’s that period from your past life when you still deleting files to have space for you new one.
They just don’t have the communicative havility to tell us, then ya forget.
My new religion is this(it has some inspiration from previous ones but hey, tell me one that didn’t)
Not understanding the marginal tax rate.
I see so many educated people not realising this. The maths involved is something we learnt in ~ 5th grade, and I distinctly remember doing exercises on marginal rates in primary school in maths class. It’s even simpler than compound interest - which is a staple of maths class later on.
Yet so many people say there’s a problem with the education system that it doesn’t teach practical skills like these. It clearly does, kids just don’t remember it. Maybe it’s because they don’t need to use this knowledge until almost a decade later.
I don’t remember ever having done this in school. In any case, the math is easy, yes. The hard part is knowing the rule that the government put in place for taxing you, and that’s something you just have to know. You can’t logic your way to it.
Not using smooth functions for tax calculations.
Being poor and idolizing the rich.
That’s by design
Black/white thinking. Everything is either bad or good, the problem or the solution.
Thinking everything is gray is also an uneducated response to this kind of thinking. Too many people refuse to stand up for a point because they think that ‘all sides are bad’ or ‘well the good side isn’t perfect’.
Understanding that things are nuanced is not the same thing as not having opinions.
You can acknowledge that drinking alcohol can cause addiction, act as a social lubricant, and decide if you want to drink. You can even have an opinion on what you think alcohol’s role in society should be and what should be done to prevent drunk driving.
I like your example but it isn’t exactly what I was pointing to. It’d be like someone calling arresting drunk drivers a “gray area” and choosing not to vote at all on a bill in favor of that. Which of course there are nuances there, but they are nuances that often are irrelevant to the overall conversation and should not inhibit decision making.
I get that, but those were the kind of nuances and perspectives that I was talking about. You can think that drunk driving is a bad thing that should be prevented, without resorting to black/white thinking like: drunk drivers are bad and they should be thrown in jail.
Maybe they should be, but what is the downsides of that policy? What is the reduction in drunk driving and drunk driving accidents expected to be? Who are the drunk drivers and when do they drive drunk? What do they do in other places/countries? Anything about our country/area in particular that causes people to drive drunk? Is there anything else we could do that is more effective and/or less expensive? Could an alternative solution be to run busses through the night? Involve parents? Require alcolocks to be installed in cars?
It’s not about whether you are a good or a bad person, or about what your beliefs or values are. In my experience, poorly educated people are just more likely to think in absolutes, which makes sense, because analytical thinking and the ability to view things through different “lenses” and from different perspectives, is something they try to teach you in school.
Believing that everything is nuanced, though, is absurd.
Yeah, everything is nuanced, that just doesn’t mean that there are no right options.
Intelligence and maturity is holding a view while also recognizing that there are flaws in that viewpoint.
No matter what subject you’re talking about, there are flaws in every stance. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take a stance, but too many people act like they have to be 100% behind their stance in order for it to be valid
Yes, but the important part is understanding the flaws of what you are standing up for.
I see this in a lot of places I do work:
Toolboxes covered in union stickers, AND Trump stickers…
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Not when they vote for parties that fight against workers’ rights
Which party shut down the rail union strike?
Fair enough.
Which party supports Right to Work laws?
Yeah yeah, Republicans are objectively worse for workers.
Don’t pretend like the other party is pro-worker, though.
Priorities, right?
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Biden is at least nominally pro-union (he isn’t really pro-union, but nominally.) Trump is overtly anti-union.
A toolbox generally belongs to one person. I see it on people’s lockers too.
Since we are rating if a person is racist or not based on the actions/words of the person they voted for, isn’t everyone who voted for Biden racist as well?
People who voted for Biden, yes. Establishment liberals are almost unanimously racist. However, most of Biden’s votes were actually votes against the overt, unapologetic racist, rapist, and pedophile on the other side.
Maybe it’s a sticker war? Unions vs Trump?
Racism.
Reckless driving, speeding, having a loud car, having a lifted pickup truck.
Truck balls
Tbh if i saw truck balls before they were popular, i would think they are pretty funny
Obligatory video making fun of lifted truck owners.
I have to disagree.
Speeding screams impatient 🤷
What type of speeding cause driving fast on back roads in the middle of no where at night isn’t impatient it’s racing and speeding on the highway often isn’t impatient because everyone around you is going 15 over the limit
Some of the smartest people I know work on cars regularly 🥲
Reckless driving is dumb but having a loud car is just inconsiderate.
I can agree having a loud car every day is inconsiderate but having a regular car and one that you take out on the weekends to go to shows and have fun isn’t to me idk though kinda a car nerd prolly a bit skewed. I don’t think driving fast in a fairly controlled situation is really reckless driving, legally it qualifies as it but not really being reckless
Reckless is situational. A posted MPH sign does not dictate that. Well, I suppose only legally speaking 😉
Racing is stupid and dangerous. Speeding because others are too is opportunistic impatience.
Is anything that’s dangerous stupid and not really dangerous with no traffic and going the speed limit when no one else is is actually more dangerous than going the speed of everyone around you
How does enjoying a vehicle make you uneducated and lifted trucks do have a purpose for offroadjng the ones with massive wheels are dumb though
They think opinions are facts.
Or the other way around.
Yeah, I hate it when people don’t realize that only my opinions are facts.
Being a republican. Sure there are some educated grifters who decide to label themselves as republican, but your average republican voter is a mouth-breathing fucking idiot.
Being proud of not knowing things, and having no desire to change that.
Sometimes my friends laugh at me for how little I know about pop culture. I laugh back though. I wouldn’t say I’m proud of it but it’s just funny.
Being proudly ignorant of everything is bad. I will respect people who know they don’t know things though, you can’t know everything about everything. It’s why people generally specialize in a field in an industry.
Not being able to entertain ideas. “What would the world be like with 100% renewable energy?” “Would basic healthcare for every person help our country?”
I tried to explain the 4 day work week to someone that gets paid by the hour. You make the same money but work 4 days a week instead of 5. Insisted he got paid less. Had to explain like a Bingo card with a Free Space, 1 day he is paid even if he stays home.
I think it’s good to note that while some of this is a failure to develop critical thinking, failure to entertain hypotheticals is OFTEN a trait for people with differing cognition. So don’t assume they’re poorly educated just from this, take it as a sign that the person thinks differently.
I’ve met and am friends with people who struggle with hypotheticals and education isn’t the problem, just how their brain works.
Also, some hypotheticals don’t consider the inherent problem of a situation or ignores context, and therefor aren’t worth entertaining. Not all, just some. When that happens it’s best to explain why the hypothetical doesn’t work, which I suppose is entertaining it.
I don’t know if that’s necessarily wrong of them. There isn’t any precedent for hourly workers to be paid when they’re not working. The “four day workweek” as described simply means that any time over 32 hours a week is overtime. Hourly workers in general don’t really have a “workweek” anyway because they will often have multiple jobs or will work whatever shift they can pick up that works with their schedule.
They understood how the 4-day workweek works based on how the 5-day workweek works. I think maybe you need to listen more to them and try to understand your own proposition better.
When companies voluntarily implement 4-day workweeks, they are literally either cutting 8 hours or doing 10-hour shifts. They do not pay for hours not worked.
If you can’t understand that 40 hours a week can be accomplished in 4 days instead of 5 days, than you are an idiot. It has nothing to do with your life experience. Its simple math.
So here’s what I’m talking about, we have a legally mandated 8-hour workday. It’s not implied that you’re changing that to a 10-hour workday.
Also, if you’ve never worked a 10-hour day, maybe you don’t quite understand how much harder than 8 hours it is for most people- because fatigue compounds faster than a linear rate.
So someone who is paid hourly and assumes you’re retaining the 8-hour workday isn’t likely to understand how they’re getting paid for 40 hours while working 32.
And literally everything has to do with lived experience. Listen to people and try to understand their position. Being educated isn’t the same thing as being intelligent and knowing how to understand different perspectives.
One of the main ideas behind the 4 day work week is that workers have become much more efficient, but with no compensation for that increase in efficiency. A worker in 2023 is going to get a lot more work done in the sane 8 hours than someone in the 70s/80s due to increases in technology, automation, software, etc.
Pair that with the fact that the lions share of profits head upwards in business (ie, CEO/management compensation has increase way more than hourly workers), then it stands to reason that we can afford to pay those workers that extra day if we equalize the pay increases across the board instead of concentrating it in the ownership.
That doesn’t explain at all how a waiter who is being told to work 32 hours instead of 40, or 10 hour shifts instead of 8, is making more money or is otherwise better off.
If there’s another policy like raising the minimum wage or UBI that’s required to make this work, it should be stated.
Because he’s an hourly worker he’s in the hourly mindset. You’d have to say your hourly rate would go up but only if you worked 32 hr/wk.
I like the idea of the 4 day workweek and would absolutely advocate for it, but I’m not sure how I personally would be affected by it. I do rotating 12 hour shift work to operate a power plant. I flip between 36 and 48 scheduled hours, 5 to 5 flipping between days and nights with a few days off between to flip my sleep schedule.
Would my OT start after 32 hours instead of 40? Would my company hire more people to schedule me between 24 and 36 hour weeks as a result? Because I’m not sure they’d be down with paying 4 hours OT on the cheapest weeks of my labor, and 16 hours OT every other week. So they probably have me work less, but does this result in a one time 25% raise and then fall off over time as no further raises come?
Idk, I would be fine either way because of how I budget, but I think these are valid questions that most hourly workers should be concerned about. I don’t think it’s such a simple concept, and companies will almost certainly find loopholes to exploit to fuck us like they did for the ACA.
People who litter. Throw their rubbish out the window of the car. Or who throw rubbish in public, like into drains or sidewalks.
It’s in the mentality, and I say the lack of education is the reason for it.
It’s sad to see the people of my country do this, and to see it with your own eyes.
I think it’s more narcissism than education. People who are educated can still not care about the environment and preserving public spaces.
Racist and intolerance to people different than them
