The few conversations I’ve had there have been unproductive and inflammatory. While even in other instances when I’ve said something someone disagreed with they would at least support their statement. Also no one would tell me why the “Confused Unga Bunga” meme is racist but they keep accusing me of it. I’m all for open discussions but even the comments there are so angry and toxic.

Edit: I’m reading every comment and taking everything people said and considering all sides. My stance on the phrase has changed but I am still hesitant about giving hexbear a chance. I’ll sleep on it though.

  • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
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    Nope. Its about as useful as any extremist population of users. Full of holier than thou bullshit to excuse their own prejudices and generally garbage world view.

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    I’m still tripping on how the phrase “seizing the means of production” doesn’t sound good to most of y’all, but if a mf said “give the billionaires the guillotine treatment” there’s a lot of people like “hell yeah bro.”

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          People invariably point to the Uyghurs and apologisms about China in general. I’m sure that stuff exists, just as it does in any leftist space, but I’ve never interacted with it so I highly doubt it’s some great cause people pick up torches for. Then again maybe it is and I’ve just never seen it.

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    Not really. Since we don’t have the ability to instance block ourselves yet I changed instances to one not federating with them to avoid them and similar authoritarian instances like lemmygrad and exploding heads. I swing pretty far left on the political spectrum myself, but there’s a difference between that and simping for dictators, genocide denial, and other problematic things. I don’t even get it, China and Russia can hardly be described as leftist by any definition but they’ll bend over backwards to defend anything they do, and try to change the subject to another country instead if they can’t.

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      I really don’t understand the defense of Russia. Like if you are claiming to be communist, it’s arguably the worst example of exploitative capitalism going right now. Or they claim it’s because of colonialism while ignoring Russia’s history of conquering and controlling any nation near them.

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    The question itself is inflammatory but there has generally been a good discussion. Locking instead of removing.

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    In my experience? No.

    There’s nothing productive from over there

    Literally during the time they were federated with Blahaj I ended up blocking almost 4 dozen of them for their absolute toxic behavior including being dismissive of genocide, simping for dictators, and who could forget their stance on Ukraine. Their stance basically boils down to letting Russia steam roll them.

    There’s nothing productive from being federated with them.

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    Uh, the XiBucks, obviously.

    Look, I get it. Hexbear is a demanding place to be. It expects you to not be a complete asshole almost all the time. You’re regularly tested on knowledge of an emoji system so complex, it’s been known to make London cab drivers cry. If you unthinkingly parrot talking points, you’ll be pounced on with annoying facts and aggressive reasonable concern for the value of other people. And if you emit the slightest Hitler particle, you’ll be outright banned. How authoritarian! Honesty, sometimes I wonder why I signed up, never mind stay around.

    But then I remember that the folks there are a deeply caring lot, who see the problems in the world and actually want to do something about it—even though the goal often seems barely possible—and, in spite of everything, retain a sense of humour and try to make improvements for each other, even if, for now at least, it can only be a :meow-hug:.

    Oh, and the XiBucks, of course. Some of us even get roubles, too!

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    Unga Bunga is racist because of this shit.

    The phrase has a long history as a racist dogwhistle, and is deeply tied with “Race Science” horseshit.

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      What the actual FUCK? I’ve never seen that shit before, and never want to see that shit again. Offensive.

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      Yeah I saw that but only after I added terms like racist and offensive to my search result, meaning if I just type that phrase by itself into Google nothing. I also don’t watch any of that shit because it’s like you said, horseshit.

      I will not use the phrase in the future though.

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        Yeah I saw that but only after I added terms like racist and offensive to my search result, meaning if I just type that phrase by itself into Google nothing.

        That’s the point of a dogwhistle. If they didnt want to whistle, they’d just yell a slur. The whole point of its racist usage being able to signal racist ideology to those in the know, while hiding behind people like yourself who insist on it being fine.

        The preferred response to learning of a dogwhistle for the first time is to go “Oh shit, my bad, i wont use it again.” It costs you nothing and removes camo for actual detestable people.

        When you argue to the effect “It not that racist”, you provide screening for racists, and are doing their work. Normalizing crypto racist shit attracts racists. For this reason, you will be dunked by bears.

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          I’ll chock this up to ignorance then. I will be adding that to my list of things not to say.

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            rat-salute

            It happens to all of us at one time or another. We all live in societies scarred by hundreds of years of brainworms; Grew up with them, internalized them. It takes effort to just see the scope of these brainworms, much less change them.

            Most of Hexbear is hyper-vigilant against this sort of thing because we’ve spent a lot of time deprogramming ourselves and others of these particular ideological blinders. We can get pretty defensive when our fash-detectors ping. I’m sorry if we’ve hit you with undeserved ire.