Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

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    1 year ago

    It’s literally exactly as fast as lightning is for the current generation phones… so you lose nothing / gain nothing.

    But I guess it’s apple so we gotta riot while it’s perfeCtly fine for android phones to ship that way depending on which vendor you pick.

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      Lightning is already painfully slow for transferring photos and doing backups. Assuming you get max speed the entire time, backing up a full 64GB iphone will take 16 minutes. On USB 3.1 it’d take 4 minutes.

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      This was Apple’s chance to up the bandwidth on their phone ports, it would cost them pennies (maybe less than pennies) and would give them a talking point. 6 years ago the 2017 Pixel 2 had USB 3.1 support. It’s 2023 now.

      Apple is either trying to squeeze people as much as possible before it’s game over for their proprietary cables, or are afraid that people can’t identify which cables support which speeds. Maybe a bit of both?

      Not acceptable for phones that are more expensive, to have speeds from a USB spec designed in the year 2000. Pixel 7 currently implements USB 3.2 standards, and with USB 4.0 (based on Thunderbolt, designed by Apple and Intel) on the way, I’m sure Android phones will be packing that as soon as they can.

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      android phones to ship that way depending on which vendor you pick

      Almost like Android has no business practices to criticize because it’s not a company. This thread is about criticizing Apple, not iOS.

    • FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
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      That’s the difference, Android users have a choice in what phone they buy. Apple users get the new iPhone or the old iPhone, so when bad decisions are made it sucks worse.

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    Merely a rumor. Apple is known to put multiple false rumors into their supplier chain to find leakers.

    I’m going to wait for the upcoming formal announcement and specs.

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    1 year ago

    ITT: people who don’t realize that most USB-C cables are USB 2.0

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      Which is fine, I have a full speed USBC cable and it’s a thicc boi that I certainly wouldn’t want to shove in my pocket all the time and the 2.0 speed ones still charge my laptop even. But Apple is limiting the PORT, not the cable, which isn’t cool.

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          1 year ago

          They still come with cables, just not bricks. That’s pretty much across the board on all phone manufacturers unfortunately.

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            And other “small” devices… hell even my toothbrush came with only a charging cable,… with an usb-a port,… and no brick…. FUCK YOU PHILIPS!!! What the F!!!

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        Because they are probably using the same controller, just rewired to usbc, there are videos of this modification being done aftermarket.

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      There’s a difference between connector and protocol version. But they are all backwards compatible.

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      That likely includes most policy makers. They should have enforce color coding usb c cables instead of forcing the form factor.

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      Yeah I’ve ran into this problem a few times now. I use my Occulus Quest on my PC and it needs USB 3.2 cables. The meta branded ones are crazy expensive but I found a third party one for fairly cheap.

      I just got a Pixel 7 Pro and it needs a special powerblock to rapid charge. My Samsung block from my S10+ didn’t meet the requirements, I had to go back to the Essential Phones included charger. The USB-C port on my PC’s case is at normal speeds, but the port on the mono charges rapidly.

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        The official Meta/Oculus one is expensive because the data lines are fiber optic which allows it to be longer.

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      1 year ago

      This is irrelevant.

      We’re talking about smartphones here, and most new Android phones support > 3.0.

      Limiting a flagship phone in 2023 to USB 2.0 transfer and charging speeds is a cheapskate move.

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        most new Android phones support > 3.0

        Where do you find that information? Do you know of a reviewer that benchmarks the USB transfer rate of Android phones?

        Edit: I found this: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-problem-usb-c-file-transfer-1075286/

        10.8GB / 480 Mbps = 180 seconds, and those phones are all faster, so they must be using USB 3.x. In other words, iPhone 15 will have slower USB data than the Pixel 1.

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        Do you actually connect your phone for anything other than charging? Not trying to poke at you, I’m just honestly surprised this is a big issue for anyone really.

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        The article only really has facts about the 2.0 cable, anything said about the device is speculated.

        The entire article is literally based on a tweet where someone tested the cable. The title of the article and of this Lemmy post references that.

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        IIRC current iphones with lightning connector are still using USB 2.0 and only ipad pro actually has USB 3. I could be wrong though.

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    Can’t wait to find out it is just a software or hardware throttle and with a simple fix get full speed. The small repair shops still going to be busy.

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    Ok .thats apparently a controversial opinion but…why does that matter. Usb2.0 is still fairly fast connection ,i doubt it will impact anyone, unless someone dumps a lot of data on iphones for…some reason,honestly i am not sure in what scenraio you would move a lot of data very often from phone to pc or reversed. Its not a headphone jack scenario where they took a capability from a phone. You still can send data through cable.it will just take a minute instead of 10 s.

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    They are going to limit it to USB 2.0 speeds so in 3 or 4 years they can declare some new magical advancement and bump it up to full 3.0 speeds.

    Apple purposefully limits things so that they have something to announce in the future. They aren’t dumb. They know the advancements in smartphones has been starting to slow down. So they meter out the advances over many years in incremental updates to give their customers a reason to upgrade.

    You will hear something like this from every reviewer after an Apple event: “The changes were small, but taken together the new insert product name here might be well worth the upgrade price.”

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    I haven’t used a cable to sync my iPhone for a long time. The speed does not matter to me unless they give us free tethering via cable. Ever since I got a box of wireless chargers to scatter around the house I don’t think I have used a cable.

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    Don’t buy products from Apple or Microsoft. It’s not impossible, it’s not even difficult

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    The few good things Apple has contributed to the world (libcups) are far outweighed by how much bad they do. Change my mind.

    Edit: Ok, emotional response, it looks like this is just a rumor. But I still stand by what I said. Fuck Apple and their shit software.