Hope the price of eggs was worth sacrificing all your civil liberties America
You deserve everything you’re going to fucking get. That includes the women and Latinos that voted for him. Your faces will be eaten eventually and you will get zero sympathy from me.
Please don’t forget that neatly half of the country realizes he’s insane and is terrified. Not everyone deserves this. Tens of millions of us out there don’t want this.
I heard a lot of commentary about the price of eggs tonight. I live in San Diego, America’s most expensive city. I’ve seen at some major chains a dozen eggs in the $6 - $9 range. Most stores I’ve seen them around $4 or $5 bucks a dozen. I also purchased a dozen yesterday for $2.79, and that was through Doordash even. So like, I call bullshit. Americans are dumb and too lazy to shop around. The gas station closest my house is $5.80 according to Google just now, but I filled up last night about 5 miles away with cash for $3.99. So infuriating that lack of effort or stupidity is likely what drove Trump back into office.
I hate this as a Canadian cause it’s gonna mess with our economy. But it will also stoke more support for the current conservative dickbag running to be prime minister. Also I don’t want more Americans moving here.
This is going to have a chilling effect on democracy, and an energizing effect on fascism, worldwide. The movement to try to limit climate change is now dead and buried, worldwide. There is no part of the world that is safe from the effects of this.
Also I don’t want more Americans moving here.
I have a sad feeling the rest of the world feels the same way.
I’m at the point where I want to leave these borders. I want to go somewhere relatively quiet and developed that has worker’s rights and isn’t some major turbulent player in the game of global domination.
I’d respect my new home and integrate and do my best to get along with my new neighbors.
But I’m pretty sure we’re stuck here to endure this madness.
The rich have already departed though. So you’ll probably end up with less humble American refugees and more pompous real-estate moguls. And for that, I’m sorry.
Yeah the thing is the average trump supporter will be hurt less than everyone else (and that’s the whole point)
Hahahaha no they fucking won’t … they’re just too goddamn gullible to blame spurious sources, like liberal policies that are fucking them with taxes…not the trillions of tax gifts given to the billionaires the fucking moron represents.
The supporters will continue to be ignorant, stupid and blame all of their problems on liberals, instead of the 1% absolutely raking their ignorant asses over the coals
We’re fucked, the supporters are fucked too but they’re too stupid to know the leopards will eat their face too.
There’s gonna be lots of content for leopardsatemyface in the next few years
Oh, no. They will be hurt the same as everyone else but The Donald will just tell them that it’s the Democrats/immigrants/gay people’s/critical race theory’s fault and they will believe him because having someone else to blame for their problems is a lot easier than fixing their problems.
No, straight cis white men will get hurt economically and through living in a degraded society, but they will not be forced to carry pregnancies, or be murdered because of their race or their sexual orientation.
And they know that. As long as he hurts those others even more they’re fine with what he does to them.
Surely the polarisation of politics, in part due to painting cis white men as colonising evil bastards at every opportunity, has nothing to do with the current state of politics.
Yeah, the demographics of voters are just made up, huh? They are the overwhelming supporters of the far right. Don’t wanna be painted like that? Don’t vote for fascists.
I’m a cis white guy too, for the record, and I’m not saying it’s something inherent in skin colour or having a penis that makes someone an asshole. But it’s classic bully behaviour to tell people lower on the hierarchy “look what you made me do”. You want things to be less divided then you should start by accepting the simple facts.
No the demographics of voters are very real and the Kamala campaign spent virtually no time convincing cis white males that their lives would be better under Kamala.
Virtually everyone votes out of self interest. Trying to convince people to vote out of altruism while they perceive they will be losing out isn’t going to work.
If someone “perceives they are losing out” because of doing something positive for women or minorities then that says a lot about their worldview, they are the ones responsible for polarisation there.
Agreed on the campaign though, it was the dems’ to lose and they royally fucked it up.
There’s already an article stating Trump did better than expected with almost every demographic. It’s not just white men
Clearly not only cis white men voted for him though. And those people are definitely going to be hurt, and I’m sorry to say but they will fucking deserve it.
We all know that’s not true. He hates his supporters. He just didn’t realize the first time through that they were trashy and ::gasp:: poor.
I will be shocked if the cost of living comes down at a notable rate when compared to other developed countries.
Conservatives have never been better at managing the economy, yet people believe they are, for some reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Are you surprised that most people are just dumb as bricks?
The amount of interviews I’ve seen where people say “yeah, he has some concerning talking points, but he promised a good economy” boil my fucking blood. The safety of half the population for the empty promise of jobs.
Can’t wait til they somehow spin the failed economy against the Dems again in four years.
We’re truly and utterly fucked…
I have an idea! Let’s put the guy whose policies partly contributed to our current economic state back in charge of everything. He’ll definitely fix it this time.
Too many people have a 4 year attention span, think the president “makes all the laws and is responsible for literally everything that’s wrong with everything right now” and will vote with emotion. If the US government is good at anything it’s keeping a lot of people poor, uneducated and angry.
Other countries included. And coups, lets not forget the coups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
I think that one guy with the folder “Memes if Donald Trump wins” is gonna have to bust them out.
As if the world hasn’t collectively had its head up it’s ass recently…
I am fucking gutted, I am so sad and angry and I don’t know what to do. I am overall a happy and positive person and believe in humanity but this win feels like it’s stripping me of a piece of that and I hate that! I hate that I feel so much hate right now, it’s exactly what I preach against, yet here I am. I can’t believe this is happening
I feel as you. I wanted to believe we’re better than this.
I m an atheist but I pray for you , it will be only 4 years , hope you stay safe.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I’m essentially an atheist too (I don’t even give it a label for myself because god and religion are just not a part of my life, and I don’t need them to be). And yet somehow I feel I have exponentially more compassion and value of morality than a large swath of these people voting in a monster, acting under the guise of being “good Christians”. Maybe I’m delusional, maybe I’m the one missing something, I don’t know. I still believe in humanity, but man I’m just sad right now. Anywho, I’ll take all the prayers and positive energy for everyone that I can get right now, so thank you
That’s how I felt here in the UK when I woke up to see the majority voted for Brexit. Before that I thought people can’t be that dumb. Apparently they can.
Ikr… I don’t even own a car, I walk to work, take the MRT everywhere etc. and the Americans are electing a president who says “Drill baby, drill”. I’m not an American, but it will affect us all… I live in Taiwan now and I’m fucking afraid of what his presidency will do to the geopolitical balance with China.
While I have no idea how to handle China’s ever bigger presence on the world stage, I know the spiteful antagonism is not it.
Fuck. I hope Canada has some open slots for immigrants.
Seconded
Ok just hurry up and get your citizenship so you can help us vote against the guy who’s trying to be like Trump, thnx.
Canada will soon be electing a conservative government.
I’ll marry one of ya’s
Canada has an increasing anti immigrant sentiment right now. They’ve announced big cut backs to the number of immigrants allowed. Furthermore, moving to another country is difficult and expensive. It’s not a realistic option for most people.
Tbh most of the ire aimed at immigrants here is specifically targeted to either Indian or Ukrainian migrants. Infrastructure is genuinely buckling under the weight of migration but it’s a case of too little investment and not entirely the result of immigration.
I can say as a white, western immigrant to Canada that I’ve never had anyone complain about my immigration however I’ve had locals complain about immigration to me forgetting that I am indeed one of the immies.
They are angry at Ukrainians? Shiiiiit…
Not in my experience, no. It doesn’t seem to be an issue with any particular group, although some people may be more vocal about Indian immigrants in particular - for what seems to be racially motivated reasons in my opinion.
The main complaint is that we’ve allowed too many people all at once and we now face issues with the lack of housing availability and affordability, the state of the economy, overpopulation and the potential strain on public resources.
Until a trumper does something fucked up and the border gets closed off.
From what I can gather, Canada seems to be following the same trend as the US just shifted back a few years
Sucks here but welcome
Their country has a severe housing crisis.
Fuck off. Stay out of our country, you people have done enough damage to us.
Downvote me all you want, idgaf, you made your bed, now lie in it you fucking cunts. You collectively let trump win now deal with the consequences you stupid fucks. Fuck america, you cunts are gonna be the downfall of us all.
I n voted for Harris but agree with you. We need to stay and clean up our mess. Because were are we going run to. America doesn’t just affect America but whole world. We need to fight not run.
The people fleeing it are exactly the people you’d want to see.
Actually, given the senseless over-generalization, you might prefer seeing your spiritual brothers, the republicans.
Kinda douchey to be a dick towards those who fought against it, don’t you think?
Couldn’t care less tbh, I’m judging murica as a whole and you pricks are gonna drag us all down with you. Say goodbye to Ukraine, cause trump is gonna stop all support for them at best, and straight up support russia at the worst. 3rd party voters that voted against genocide? Congrats, you now have much worse than a dem administration when it comes to that shithole israel.
Fuck america.
Congrats, you now have much worse than a dem administration when it comes to that shithole israel
Nothing will fundamentally change in the Israel policy, it’s just that now people will start caring because it’s orange man doing it instead of genocide Joe
What do you mean “you pricks”? I am not American. I am German. And I think you are having a panic attack.
Not arguing against the things you wrote possibly happening. Hell, I think it will be even worse than that.
But these people also didn’t want any of this. Let’s not be awful against those who need a blanket and a hug, please?
American here. I would totally take you up on that hug there, mein bruder. This feels pretty damn awful. :(
I’m still holding out some kinda vague hope for the “final numbers” but…right now I’m not alone in feeling a little lost and confused at what we’re about to go through and what the heck life will look like in the near future.
A lot of previous elections felt like empty hype and doomsaying but this one feels like we’re gonna feel it immediately.
God help us all.
I’m in one of the bluest cities in one of the bluest states…I’ve voted in every major and local election since I was old enough, I’ve protested, I’ve tried to get people to vote, I’ve marched, I’ve tried to kindly change minds through patience…I’ve been doing it since high school and I don’t know what else I can personally do. If people hit the streets, I’ll be there. But I’m with you, it’s like no matter what I personally do things are burning around me and this election proves there’s much more hate in this world than I’d hoped. I still think there’s light in everyone, but I can understand why people are angry with us… we’re dropping the ball hard as a country. meanwhile I’ll just be sitting here in the middle of the night, wide awake but exhausted, hugging my dog because we have no control and I know half the voters are okay with taking away my rights. Sending hopeful feelings for you to wherever else in the country you are.
I really appreciate this. I’m stuck awake and exhausted too. My house all voted and did what we could, here in NV, but I hate that nagging feeling that it wasn’t enough.
I’m praying to maintain that fervor, that raging fire to believe in good and fortify against coming evil… But it’s one crisis out of our hands to the next, and I’m just so tired. :(
I find myself returning more and more often to the ever and increasingly relevant:
Ephesians 6:12-17
Eph 6:12-18 KJV For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16. Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18. Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Sending hopeful feelings for you to wherever else in the country you are.
You too, friend. We’re still here. We’ll get through this one day at a time.
those who fought against it
Did they do more than just vote?
Popular vote says otherwise. The majority wanted this.
I’m in that country and can’t disagree. I was just paraphrasing the line from the Joker movie to a friend of mine,“We’re going to get exactly what we deserve.”
You should build a big wall and make them pay for it!
Fellow Canadian here and I don’t like being overly harsh with my criticisms … but I’m with you on this.
I’m a native too, a trump administration would happily see us and our people systematically “removed”
You assholes exported Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys to us, not the other way around. Shut the fuck up you stupid piece of shit.
Looking at the bright side:
-no more vaccines (never liked needles anyway) -no more fluoride in the water (who likes nice teeth anyway, plus you can get fakes installed) -never need to vote for president again (think about how much time that’ll save) -no jan 6th revolt in 2025 (maybe they will just for fun though, who knows) -perhaps Trump can fill the remaining seats of the supreme court and get a properly conservative suite of justices -Elon Musk will be our super-cool tech daddy
- No more environment (hate the outside anyway)
- No more Ukraine (the weather in Kyiv sucks and I have a gluten allergy who needs grain anyway)
- More refugees into Europe (yeah Europe is totally prepared for that and won’t cause more fascists to win European elections)
Yeah fascists in Europe turned out great the last time
Hey, maybe we in Europe will get to be the ones making a deal with the devil (Stalin then, Xi now) to get a red flag flying in the fascist capitol.
Better start working for some social points. I love surveillance cameras everywhere.
Lol we have Chinese police taking people away already. I’d also love chat control to go through. No fair that it’s only the US and the Chinese who get to dragnet the world, I want locally sourced fair trade repression. Gotta love this world.
That said, China has a lot of shit going on, but a credit system is not one of them. For example, they are actively trying to tamp down social (and physical) mobility. It’s a shit place right now, maybe it always was.
The only country I know that has a credit points system that decides a lot of the opportunities you get in life is the US.
- No more environment
That won’t be a problem. America will simply be towed outside the environment.
If only the front would fall off…
There’s no such thing as an undecided voter.
They’ve either decided, or decided to do something bad and don’t want you to judge them.
Ah shit. c/all is full of US election stuff now. Give me a break, just tell me the result in january.
They’ve done it before and they’ll fucking do it again.
All these young new potential voters! A fresh wave of idiot!Yep, we did it. We are Homer Simpson. D’Oh
Trump is not going to create a better economy. We’re gonna go into a recession and he’s going to blame it on democrats and COVID restrictions.
He’s going to increase immigration, lower wages due to cheap labor, and cause wages to go down. He said this and the retards that live in rural America think he’s going to benefit them. He’s going to reduce the power of Unions.
It’s clown world.
Clown country
It it bad that I think that’s a best case scenario? Things aren’t looking good.
We’re going back to child labor in factories and brood mares barefoot and pregnant. Trans and brown folks are going to have a real bad time. I’m a white dude and even I’m afraid of what’s going to happen
When Trump was first elected, it made me realize how stupid most of the US is. The results of this election were not surprising, I even linked to the sort of self-serving articles that preceded just before Hillary-Trump’s elections to people who were doing the same in this election. At least in this election, it’s sort of like Israel, they are leaving no doubt about who they support. I don’t even care if Kamala gets the popular vote, most criticize the electoral college word only and refuse to consider gerrymandering as electoral fraud, leading to it occurring in greater and newer ways this election.
Gerrymandering is clearly electoral fraud, but
- it’s not black and white. There’s no clear line between fraud and good
- the people benefiting the fraud are the ones in control of it
- gerrymandering does not affect presidential or senate elections
Why are americans so stupid and yet manage to export so much smart stuff from tech to podcasts to scientists. Is it some sort of dystopia where 1% rules, 20% live in a bubble and 79% are just brain dead idiots?
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Why do people from Europe go and build monuments and luxury in Saudi Arabia?
Money. Same answer in the US.
The US is an oligarchy, as attested to by this Oxford study. To answer your question, mostly yes, hence places like “Silicon Valley” and institutions like the electoral college.
Interesting that was written in 2014… Before it was obvious it had all just gone to shit
It just wasn’t obvious to you.
An election was stolen in broad fucking daylight in 2000. That was the canary in the coal mine on election interference.
I fear you may have hit the nail on the head
Yes.
Then there’s us smart ones who see what’s going on, but we’re outnumbered by idiots.
1-America imports smart people from all over the world.
2-Technical smarts and don’t-vote-for-fascism smarts are different.
Yeah but basically everyone I follow from podcasters to tech developers are all non-idiots and I assume their following are also mostly non-idiots. Where are all of these idiots hiding? The contrast between US soft power export and actual average americans is colossal.
You’re looking at and following your information bubble.
This is by design.
Yeah but almost every American I meet here traveling in SEA or Europe is a perfectly reasonable person.
Dunno I just am in such disbelief that my world experience doesn’t match reality at all. I even consider myself pretty well traveled with 20 years of experience traveling around the globe though admittedly I’ve never been to the USA yet and I fear I might not get to see Yellowstone or Big Sur ever at this point or do I even want to?
Kinda sucks to be a fan of US now ngl.
If you go to the States as a tourist the chances are that you will be just fine, it’s the living there that increasingly sucks.
The people you meet while travelling are not the average people. The average American never travels to another state, let alone to other continents… Same is true for many people in many countries: Asians visiting Europe are top % of population in wealth and brains. It’s dissapointing and depressing but fox probably gives you a more true picture of average Americans than Americans you meet while travelling.
Yes I’m perfectly familiar with “survivors bias” but never seen it so extreme.
The more conservative you are, the less likely you are to travel. The less likely you are to be open to experiencing “them”.
When I went back to my high school reunion, I tried reconnecting with an old buddy of mine. I found it a little odd that his life seemed exactly the same as in high school, but eventually he admitted that he had never been more than about 50 miles from the town we grew up in. Never left the state, much less the country. Never left the surrounding rural cluster of towns. Never flew. Not even a road trip to a coast, amusement park or city. No changes in food from what he grew up with. No people different from him. What the everliving fuck?
Joe Rogan has the biggest podcast in the English speaking world. He has been consistently pro-Trump.
He has not been consistently pro Trump, he has harshly criticized Trump in the past. But now he’s an ass-kisser like Elon. Let’s see how well that works out for them. If they can keep daddy Trump happy at the expense of everyone else.
They’re populists.
They see which way a crowd is running and jump in front, shouting “follow me!”
Temporary criticism and yet he has endorsed Trump for three elections running.
The podcasters you follow are not the mainstream in the US. Probably the majority of mainstream podcasters targeting men, were pro Trump in one way or the other. Either by inviting guests that were pro-Trump, or inviting quacks that are telling men that the left is taking away their masculinity.
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@lemmy.ml was all I needed to know.
Bit of a tangent, but this pains me every time I read this in threads.
I wanted to join Lemmy after the Reddit exodus, found out that ml was “the main one” made by the devs and joined it. Last time I carefully tried to pick an instance was Mastodon, and I hardly ever found any content. Decided to check back in the other day, and every account except for the admin’s (like less than 50) was removed for inactivity.
I’m not some far-right or Russian troll, but because most of them are on that instance everyone on it gets this reputation.
Signed, European who’s afraid that the far-right movement on his continent will turn into an ultra-far-right turbo-movement now
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If your “gotcha” is you prefer the genocide to get worse to “teach people a lesson”, you need to do some introspection as well.
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No, I heard your gotcha. But the reality is standing to the side telling people “I told you so” is just sticking your head in the sand. You are enabling a worse genocide just for the sake of moral masturbation.
You might as well tell the people feeding the homeless they are “accepting homelessness” as well. Amounts to the same bullshit logic.
But when Trump enables a full scale genocide, you can pay yourself on the back and say “I had nothing to do with that”.
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I hope that sense of moral superiority helps you sleep at night. I hope that you are right, and that the Palestinian people won’t face a worse wrath because of your folly. And I truly hope that the road to hell isn’t paved with your good intentions. Because the way I see it, letting Trump win may well be the bell tolling on humanity, and those who stood to the side and didn’t help will have all that blood on their hands.
Thanks for the concern for my soul, but I would gladly damn it to prevent the problems we are about to face. Maybe when it gets bad, you will be willing to get yours dirty to help for a change.
Because you think you tankies are actually beneficial to anything?
Next year’s Palestinians that are going to die thanks to cheeto’s assistance would like to express their gratitude for your advocacy!
If it’s any consolation you and everyone else are likely to get a firsthand lesson in it in the near future.
Now EVERYONE is fucked. Congrats!
Rather than wishing ill upon others, try to be less accepting of genocide.
N ƿicıŋ, nœıŋ it ƿil kėm t pæſ i paṙt bikȯz v wėt Y’v dėn t U̇ A.
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Not wishing, knowing it will come to pass in part because of what you’ve done to us all.
Y hæv pleıd ė rol tėdeı, i ð suınıŋ v Pælistuın’z deþ worint. Kėŋgrætculeıcėnz, muı kin wil rimembṙ wėt Y’v dėn t U̇ f ð seık v Yuzıŋ auṙ ded f Yr ſinikėl ėbændėnment v Yr poſt difendıŋ ėgenſt auṙ greıtiſt enimız.
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You have played a role today, in the signing of Palestine’s death warrant. Congratulations, my kin will remember what you’ve done to us for the sake of using our dead for your cynical abandonment of your post defending against our greatest enemies.
You now what would be total bodacious of you? If you could say:
The Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 happend.
Nah bro. That is not what you said. You are not against genocide. You support it with a troll face.
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No offense but you’re a fucking idiot if you think Trump would do any better
If you like winning you should try not embracing genocide
Trump: “I stopped the genocide.”
Us: “You made the genocide worse!”
Trump: “Worse? Or better?”
/Invader Zim Reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDIgS-Soo9Q
If you are a little pink and you know it say:
The Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 happend.
Please say:
The Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 happend.
Geez if you wanna get blocked so bad just say so.
Don’t you worry now, Trump will make sure that the suffering of the Palestinian people will end quickly
It’s no fantasy, you are just in denial.
Ðı’ṙ totėlı ſėm ƿuıt kid hu’z nevṙ livd ð difrinſ.
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They’re totally aome white kid who’s never lived the difference.
No this only proves the misogyny ingrained in the US. We will never allow a woman to be president.
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Honestly I’m wondering if that’s why the margin Trump is winning is so “huge”. The US will never vote for a woman president. Both times Trump has gone up against a woman, he’s won. But against a man, he lost.
When CNN interviewed a black man at a previously Biden stronghold in Georgia, he said “women are emotional” and “I don’t think they make great leaders”
The men who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump because they were afraid of a women being in a position of power.
You’re right
Ð elektoret inkaṙneıcėn v “Moṙ ƿorıd ėbaut n bııŋ kald ė bigit ðæn n bııŋ ė bigit.”
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The electorate incarnation of “More worried about not being called a biggot than not being a biggot.”
Absolutely. This country is way more misogynistic and racist than I realized
Oh man, if you think it was bad under Biden…
Oh, man. If you were happy with the genocide under Biden…
It will be the same but liberals will be less asleep during atrocities.
Lol k. I bet things get better for everyone now, huh?
If you decide to be part of the right side of history, it will help that, yes. Are you going to?
What is the right side of history, dipshit? Letting Trump annihilate the rest of the Palestinians to prove a point of having some semblance of hope that someone else might do better?
Go fuck yourself.
What is the right side of history, dipshit?
Being against genocide. You should try it sometime.
They’re still gonna die under trump though, i don’t get your point
If you honestly believe the situation in Palestine will be better with the Cheeto in charge of the US, then you are insane.
The US is a deeply flawed democracy, and like it or not, any choice other than voting for the Democrats, including abstaining is a vote for the Cheeto.
But you are a .ml user, so you are either trolling or a useful idiot.
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I said this before, and I’ll say it again, since both parties in the election (don’t try and claim that the greens have any hope of winning, they only serve to split the Democrat vote) seem disinterested in the horrific situation in Palestine, you pick the least bad candidate.
If you don’t, you get the worst candidate for everyone.
I am not American, but if I were, I’d pick Harris no question.
Since you are supporting Trump, tell me, how does is feel supporting a sexist, racist, convicted felon who also supports genocide?
Remember that in the US idiotic election system, any vote other than the Dems is a vote for the Reps, and any vote for the Reps is a vote for a worse society.
I said this before, and I’ll say it again, since both parties in the election (don’t try and claim that the greens have any hope of winning, they only serve to split the Democrat vote) seem disinterested in the horrific situation in Palestine, you pick the least bad candidate.
And I’ve said this before: don’t both-sides a genocide. Never again means never again for anyone.
If you won’t listen to basic moralism, listen to your resounding strategic loss.
I guess we’ll get to find out if there is such a thing as “worse genocide”
Not in terms of American support, you won’t. Biden is already the maximum.
We’ll see.
You’re sitting in a throne made of shit, and you’re feeling right at home.
can you actually shut the fuck up right now. women and minorities have there lives on the line and all y’all can talk about is this. if kamala wins we can protest her stance. if trump wins and we protest his stance he’s already said he’ll deploy the national guard. y’all are so smug about ruining your chances of helping these people
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Trump is gonna triple-down on the Palestinian genocide and pull all support from Ukraine and probably pull out of NATO to let Putin do whatever he wants to Europe.
He’s also promised violence against Americans who oppose him.
You’re replying to a lemmy.ml user, they almost certainly think pulling out of NATO and allowing Putin to continue his genocide in Ukraine is a good thing.
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Nobody’s “souls” matter anymore. The world is completely fucked and our physical bodies are going to be going through the ringer very soon. I hope you’re on the right side of the people who can now do whatever they want with absolutely no guardrails. Otherwise you’re about to REALLY experience solidarity.
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I’ve learned no lesson. I secured a permanent residency abroad the first time this chucklefuck was in office, and I’ve already bought my plane ticket out. I feel so, so awful for people who voted reasonably and are stuck there, and I encourage everyone who can to get out now, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to let the self-righteous attitudes of people with no sense try to punish me for exercising logic.
If Trump wins because enough of you idiots couldn’t hold your nose and vote then the blood of those Palestinians is on your hands. You don’t get to absolve yourself because you chose not to participate in democracy.
You aren’t opposed to genocide because you couldn’t be assed to do the smallest thing to mitigate it.
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I’m not going to play chess with a pigeon but one day you’ll have your first moment of introspection and I hope it results in your realisation that while not complicit in the “Biden-Harris Genocide” you are absolutely 100% complicit in each and every consequence of a Trump-Vance administration which includes the genocide of Palestine.
Neither did you. Lol. Kamala was never gonna change her stance.
How do you know they support genocide? A lot of american voters are voting against Trump, not for this year’s insincere Wall Street spokeperson.
On the other hand, I know someone that should feel guilty about the fate of Palestinians starting January…
The IDF thanks you for your service!
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Ah, yes, the fine tankie minds literally going off vibes again 👍
Straight up fantasising death of innocents because your candidate lost. Obama, biden all of these guys were saints that maintained peace and never hurt any innocents.
Not an american citizen, leftist (so not interested in the democratic party). Try again!
Only a troll would think by reading my messages that I view the death of Palestinians as a good thing. Again, try harder. You tankies are not fooling anyone.
I’m well aware about the friendship between Israel and the democratic establishment. But I also believe the Cheeto guy when he says he’s going to make it worse, because I’m not an idiot.
What’s a tankie? I’m no American either. I just dislike the “lesser evil” is better narrative in lemmy. It’s not any better. I know trump may make it worse? But what does worse mean? White phosphorus is not worse? Killing peace keepers and journalists not worse? Maybe shooting kids point blank in the head is not worse. Define worse please.
It doesn’t matter what you stand for but your comment clearly reflects that you want it to happen, just to prove your point. Go to hell.
My condemnation of the IDF is clear to anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension. You shouldn’t have skipped class when you were a kid 😆
And what’s worse is, IDK, total eradication of Gazans? Trump did say he doesn’t believe in a two state solution, and that he wanted a quick end to the war, knowing full well that there aren’t 100 ways Israel can get the “win” he wants Israel to get.
If you actually cared about Palestine, you wouldn’t regurgitate propaganda for someone who wants a win for Israel. You’d want the US president to use his country’s resource to make Israel stop its invasion immediately, without going for a “win”.
While you pretend to care for Gazans, they keep dying to the hands of Israeli soldiers. And it’s not just Palestinians anymore (cf Lebanon, among others). Please stop using them as a talking point.
And, since I know tankie’s stance on LGBT rights and feminism is also insincere, I’d like to remind everyone else (because they don’t actually give a shit) that women and trans people are now in danger in the US on top of all that.
Is trump going to do anything different though?
Former President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that Israel must “finish the problem” in its war against Hamas
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
If the above is true, I don’t know why anyone would bring his up. It’s like choosing between two seats on a bus. One has broken glass on it, the other has broken glass and is on fire.
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I’m not sure you understood. The fire is all of the other nonsense policies that trump comes up with, and that his party is likely to impose.
If you think selling weapons is a maximalist policy, you are very naive.
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Seriously? Fuck you. This supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.
I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.
I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.
The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.
I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.
In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which may have been resolved), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.
Haha, yeah that’ll show em!
Now instead of having a president that supports the genocide of Palestinians you’ll have… checks notes … a president that supports the genocide of Palestinians. Wait there’s more here… doesn’t believe in climate change, a guy who actively wants to prove that vaccines don’t work actually in charge of health related shit, enabling the genocide of Ukraine (hey a whole new genocide!), pulling out of alliances and what’s this last fun one, threatening the already flawed foundations of US democracy by, among other things, threatening to deploy the military against political opponents.
Is that what winning and being morally superior looks like? Because it looks pretty awful from here.
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Why did you ignore all the other points? I’d love to hear someone accept what Trump has done and will do. If Trump pulls out of Ukraine and allows another genocide, what will be your argument then? “Never again”? Or are you just trolling?
I wouldn’t even bother replying to comments from hexbear mk II. I just automatically assume troll.
Oh, I wish I could. The moral high ground means doesn’t buy anyone their rights or life back unfortunately, so you got a pretty bad deal there.
I’m not American so not sure exactly who my camp is or what I was supposed to do. Enjoy your measles and smallpox, hope it was a good trade in exchange for making zero difference to Palestinians in the best case.
0 empathy for americans. You deserve what you get for either not voting or voting the baffoon. Even dems deserve it for stupidly changing the candidate and AGAIN acting like they already won everywhere which makes people think “oh then I dont have to vote”
Unfortunately my country loves to copy America in everything they do so we will be walking off the cliff soon too
Mine also has fascists getting 20-30% a lot of places. But we have more safeguards
I voted but I will still have to endure four more years of stupid self serving idiot.
My desperation is not foremost about sympathy for the US, but for the consequences for international politics.
This is certainly an enormous turning point for America, but it’s also a very dark day for the outlook of the future of… well basically everything.The continuation of our species on this earth are facing problems that are more complex than can be put into a slogan or a headline, and both Trump and his voters are to dumb to understand such matters. And that’s not said in hate or anger, it’s just an observable, testable fact that they’re literally unintelligent.
Yeah its terrible for everyone else. Especially Ukrainians, Taiwanese and Palestinians. Though the last group I feel less empathy for now since they called for not voting either so they are as responsible as Trump supporters.
i dont think swapping biden out was a bad move. i think it could have been someone better though
you all need to learn to distinguish between the people/the government/the country
The world: literally doesn’t care
