• Mango@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, but you’ve seen the dudes who have that anxiety thing going on about it. They’re not about to spell out their own repressed embarrassing stuff.

      • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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        It’s not “patriarchy”, it’s the collective of the social norms and pressures put in place by, perpetrated by, and maintained by, the majority of both sexes. The word implies it’s males’ fault society is the way it is, which is demonstrably bullshit.

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          I mean… No? I dont see where it would imply that its men fault. The word mean that men rule. The ODE define it by “a society, system, or country that is ruled or controlled by men” And the argument that both gender (sexes may not be the best word for what you were trying to say) are maintaining the system hold some truth, But you can t deny that men did vote in favour of the rapist in the last US election , or that it is men that are leading a war against feminism in Skorea.

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            I mean… No? I dont see where it would imply that its men fault. The word mean that men rule.

            But they don’t. Which is my point–people like you assert this is the case, so that when stuff is shitty, you can say things like ‘well, the men are in charge, so if it’s bad, it’s men’s fault’, and in turn imply that women have zero agency in society and exist as nothing more than victims. You seem not to realize how deeply misogynistic it is to infantilize women this way, not to mention misandrist as well.

            99.9% of men have no ‘ruling’ power whatsoever–they’re in the weeds right alongside the 99.9% of women who also don’t. To categorize either sex as ‘the ruler’ in American or any Western society is absolutely ridiculous.

            But you can t deny that men did vote in favour of the rapist in the last US election

            The majority of US voters are women. If all of the women voted for the same candidate, that candidate would be guaranteed to win, every time.

            But all of the women didn’t do that, did they? Well, guess what? Neither did all of the men.

            Well over thirty million women voted for Trump. Stop stereotyping the sexes and acting like they’re hiveminds, it’s plainly sexist bullshit.

            Face it: the blame for any societal ill does not belong to one sex.

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            But you can t deny that men did vote in favour of the rapist in the last US election

            So did women. 44% of them according to statistica

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      because its not only men perpetuating this shit, some just put up with it and guide younger women on how to gently move things along and the flimsy little dude forgets and gets mad about the next dumb thing. Literally my parents…