YouTube Premium is the only media subscription I pay for because it’s the only one I consider worth it. I watch an unhealthy amount of YT, listen to tons of music, and even use YT as a kind of cloud storage for thousands of hours of recorded video.
I’d probably be paying for YouTube, if it were run by a normal media company instead of the world’s largest spy network and personal data broker. There’s no way in hell I’m giving them my credit card information.
Yeah I don’t really care about value when it comes to giving money to the guys who work with the NSA and CIA to find ways to more thoroughly spy on every user 24/7, and turned every search into “You asked for x, here’s a dozen pages of what the State Department thinks you should have searched for instead”
I exaggerated for effect, in the way that 99% sure might as well be a fact in this case:
I have never given them to YouTube, and they have no financial incentive to acquire them AFAIK - holding that kind of PI is a liability so if anything they wouldn’t want it without having a need for it. YouTube can’t even know what countries I live in, my digital identity from the POV of their servers is too fluid and non-unique for my viewing habits to meaningfully correlate; I blend in with many other people also trying to stay hidden from them.
As for other Alphabet companies, like those engaged in surveillance capitalism who want to scoop up all of the datas, it’s theoretically possible they’ve illegally acquired them from third parties and found a use for it, but there’s just no feasible way they could associate that with most of my online activities, say, this account I’m using. The only people who have a chance at that are certain state intelligence agencies who are eavesdropping the wires, and they have much bigger problems they’re paid to worry about. Hell, unless things have gotten better for them since Snowden, even they might struggle - most of their super cool hacker shit is only really useful if someone’s worth active targeting.
Sorry for the down votes, you’re 100% valid. YouTube Premium benefits me and the content creators I watch. Sure, it’s more complicated than that, but everything is, and sometimes you just have to make choices that make your life a little easier.
Personally, considering I can get it for free, and that Google bad, $22 is a bad deal for me. I’d rather donate $20 to the groups helping us get around it, and spend the other $2 on jawbreakers!
Yeah but my aging parents can’t, it’s about effort. Of course I could set up something that gets around all of it but then I still have to pay for their music streaming on their phone. And the second something breaks I’m not with them to fix it.
YouTube Premium is the only media subscription I pay for because it’s the only one I consider worth it. I watch an unhealthy amount of YT, listen to tons of music, and even use YT as a kind of cloud storage for thousands of hours of recorded video.
I’d probably be paying for YouTube, if it were run by a normal media company instead of the world’s largest spy network and personal data broker. There’s no way in hell I’m giving them my credit card information.
Yeah I don’t really care about value when it comes to giving money to the guys who work with the NSA and CIA to find ways to more thoroughly spy on every user 24/7, and turned every search into “You asked for x, here’s a dozen pages of what the State Department thinks you should have searched for instead”
Not to mention their genocide profiteering: https://www.mintpressnews.com/project-nimbus-billion-google-amazon-partners-israel/280087/
It’s not even about the money, it’s literally about the credit card information, and the massive amount of data linked to it.
I would pay for a lot more things if I could do it anonymously
Do they not already know who you are and what you purchase anyway? I’m wondering how much of a difference it makes.
Whether they do or not, Google doesn’t know that that person is the same person as the one who is using YouTube.
Except…
They do already. That’s info you can just buy.
As I just said, whether they already do or not is beside the point.
Fair
I’d like to think they’re advising on how to keep ISIS propaganda, gore / executions, child endangerment, etc, from popping up on clearnet results…
…but * sigh * , former (not ex, let’s be honest lol) spooks…so, why wouldn’t it include some kind of pro-employer propaganda plan, right?
Data gathering/brokering and payment information security are not really connected. PCI compliance standards are well standardized and fairly strict.
I would trust Google to handle payment information securely over any ‘media’ company.
If personal data was regulated at even the fraction of what payment data goes through we would all be better off.
They already have your information, bud. Sorry.
They quite literally don’t have my credit card information. What are you even trying to say here?
how can you be so sure about that?
I exaggerated for effect, in the way that 99% sure might as well be a fact in this case:
I have never given them to YouTube, and they have no financial incentive to acquire them AFAIK - holding that kind of PI is a liability so if anything they wouldn’t want it without having a need for it. YouTube can’t even know what countries I live in, my digital identity from the POV of their servers is too fluid and non-unique for my viewing habits to meaningfully correlate; I blend in with many other people also trying to stay hidden from them.
As for other Alphabet companies, like those engaged in surveillance capitalism who want to scoop up all of the datas, it’s theoretically possible they’ve illegally acquired them from third parties and found a use for it, but there’s just no feasible way they could associate that with most of my online activities, say, this account I’m using. The only people who have a chance at that are certain state intelligence agencies who are eavesdropping the wires, and they have much bigger problems they’re paid to worry about. Hell, unless things have gotten better for them since Snowden, even they might struggle - most of their super cool hacker shit is only really useful if someone’s worth active targeting.
Sorry for the down votes, you’re 100% valid. YouTube Premium benefits me and the content creators I watch. Sure, it’s more complicated than that, but everything is, and sometimes you just have to make choices that make your life a little easier.
Doesn’t bother me, I know that it’s an insanely hot take on Lemmy and reddit. I appreciate the vocal backup though.
You got backup from me too. Its the only subscription in our home.
I paid for premium, until they wanted PayPal to share my address with Google.
I used to pay for it, for the same reasons. They stopped taking my money, i don’t know why, and I noticed zero change in the quality of the service.
I’m paying for other google services, so I don’t know why youtube specifically stopped. Oh well.
Yup.
Family plan is 22$ for ad free yt and music subscription for 5 or 6 people
I get that Google bad an all that, but it’s a good deal
Personally, considering I can get it for free, and that
Google bad, $22 is a bad deal for me. I’d rather donate $20 to the groups helping us get around it, and spend the other $2 on jawbreakers!Yeah but my aging parents can’t, it’s about effort. Of course I could set up something that gets around all of it but then I still have to pay for their music streaming on their phone. And the second something breaks I’m not with them to fix it.
A very hot take on Lemmy.