Agree. But it’s not kids, it’s stupid people of all ages. Same thing happened with Reddit and with the Internet as a whole. Used to be you had to be a little smart to know you wanted to be on the Internet and figure out how to get it working. Then same was true of forums and IRC. Then same was true of Reddit. But then Reddit changed formats trying to be a TikTok style quick content scroll app, so idiots who just want to scroll started using the site and quality of discussions went down. I hope Lemmy grows but I hope the sign up process stays as it is, to weed out the extra stupid.
I think you‘re onto something. I read a lot of comments of people thinking the fediverse is too complicated to deal with and while I disagree - but also think it has issues - there does seem to be a barrier of entry for a good portion of people in the form of „inconvenience.“ So whoever is here really wants to be here and not just be an anonymous arse. I don‘t think you gotta be particularly smart, you gotta step out of your comfort zone.
Which part of it is supposed to be complicated? I’ve seen this argument many times, and while I’m still trying to figure out the user interface(s), the whole idea is pretty basic
I would guess the whole “federation” part. It can be confusing for non tech minded people to try and understand distributed sites. They might not understand that lemmy.world and lemmy.ml while both being lemmy are not the same site.
I can‘t tell you since I also disagree. I did basically the same thing I did on Reddit, I only got thrown off seeing multiple „subs“ with the same name.
Some people complained how complicated „explanations“ are. I saw these types of comments on the Reddit Alternatives sub.
I’m also a bit confused by it being ‘complex’. I created an account (I chose .world as it had world in the name, as it turned out that was a great decision lol), you log in, click on ‘all’ and sort by top/day you’ve essentially got ‘Reddit’, or am I missing something lol.
Yes, this exactly. I’m starting to suspect that either someone very misinformed or someone with an agenda started spreading this rumor.
It just takes one person to reaffirm that it really is “too much work to switch” and “you aren’t lazy for not trying” to keep a lot of folks in place.
This kept me off Lemmy until the blackout. I was interested prior to that, but so many people said it was complicated, I figured I’d look into it at some vague point in the future when I had time to untangle the fediverse. Then the baclout happened, and what do you know I had time, and lo and behold it was easy. I’m now a bit annoyed I was dissuaded for so long based on BS about it being complicated.
Getting one’s head around the concept of instances is hard for some people who aren’t used to dealing with tech beyond the basic social platforms.
Is it one social media platform, or is it a bunch of individual ones? The fact that the answer is “it depends” is confusing. Especially when you get into defederation and cross-platform interaction.
Very true. I often make the mistake of thinking that if something makes sense to me pretty quickly, it will be just as quick for others.
We should remember that those of us here now are more likely to be uniquely interested in this tech and thus more able to wrap our heads around these concepts without being deterred. We could always do a better job making it accessible for beginners who don’t benefit from the same background.
Hmm this is also a good point. I’ve been explaining to redditors that Lemmy is not that complicated and only takes a couple minutes to get started. But reading this, now I’m hoping Lemmy can find the balance between number of active users and quality of content. I’m wondering if my spreading the word on reddit was a bad idea.
Maybe the “work” required to make the jump to Lemmy will be enough to keep lower quality content (for whatever reason) at bay for a bit longer, though. Of course, it won’t last forever. All we can do is make our communities good spaces from the get-go and try to maintain them carefully as we grow.
I think it‘s good to grow. Lemmy (or the Fediverse, I suppose?) should be as inclusive, convenient, and engaging as can be. It has only just started (in my opinion), we‘ll see how it goes. I like it here so far, feels like people are less prone to jump at your throat for voicing a (harmless) opinion.
Then same was true of forums and IRC
When IRC was entirely people on command line clients that existed on *nix. But that has changed with the ease of use of clients for Windows, and then eventually web clients.
It was the worst thing to witness on reddit. A post with tens of thousands of likes and only a handfull of comments
I boosted from 1k karma to 20k by searching ‘pun’ on every top joke each day for a week.
It’s enough that good/bad posts get boosted up/down by votes without them generating Karma.
Intelligent answers aren’t always the most popular…
Reddit karma wasn’t about popularity or intelligence. It was about who got there first. If you shotgun enough comments into brand new threads your karma will skyrocket.
Also, making comments on the top comments. Plus that’s the only way for new replies to have visibility once a thread has over ~1000 replies.
Agreed. Reddit became horrible once everyone got on it.
Sounds like someone needs a good teabagging followed up with a dab… or are kids not doing that stuff anymore? I don’t even know what’s hip now.
What do you mean? I’m 16/f/cali
I don’t support age shaming. Let’s not be those people.
the kids are alright
This is like when people in 7th grade say that the 6th graders are sooo immature omg
I had a lovely conversation with a 19 yr old. He kind of reminded me of myself, only growing up in this crazy time. He was really thoughtful about his experiences. Any one here now is probably a touch more mindful, but we can all slip and be dumb or even bad people, and when there’s more people, it’s easier to do, especially when there are people who are sad or mad or whatever.
Is that considered a kid? Just curious about todays perception. When I was at that age it was considered young adult.
It’s about perspective, I think. A 19-year-old is technically a young adult, but is a “grown up” to a small child and a kid to an older adult. I feel like that 18-early 20s-ish range is some weird gray area that seriously depends on maturity level. I’ve met some very wise people in that age range who are far more adult than literal adults I’ve known, but I’ve also met some very, very immature straight-up children in that age range as well.
Then again, maybe that’s all ages? Hmm…
Editing to add: This is my first comment on here. I can see myself settling in and getting comfortable in this new space. I’m happy to have possibly found a new home. I’ll miss rif though.
Hmm I kinda typed that in after reading further down.
Imo, it depends on experience.
more often than not, even highly intelligent people just lack exposure to certain things, situations.
I’d rather talk to that 19 yr old than many many many many many people who are not internet strangers to me (:
I’m torn between “hey that’s ageism” and “yeah! those younger than me can rot in hell”
Bitches be like “I hate those elitists assholes” and then post shit like that
If you want, we can all pretend to be kids just like on /r/teenagers.
That place was so creepy.
I was ther euntil I turned 19, then I stopped being a teen and left the sub. I went back to see what I posted /commented.
Nothing just emptiness, idk how I didn’t realise
Typical /r/ teenagers post:
Oh my god I think this girl likes me but idk I might be gay does that make me bi?
This must be such a confusing time to be a kid.
man. i hope there would be an age barrier to those or something, or they be periodically flagged so they dont spread around. i had enough of kids and shitposters. is this heaven
we have to commit to our duty as users of the community if we want it the way we like it
Would you not consider people in their mid twenties kids?
✋?
I’m in my early 30s and still feel like a child most of the time
It doesn’t wear off. I fell off a skateboard when I was 59, only the torn rotator cuff (and 1 year of painful rehab) let me know I shouldn’t have tried going down that hill…
Second this. Older guy once told me and it always stuck since.
“I’ve always mentally felt 18, but my body tells me otherwise.”
I still get excited over childish things, and sometimes try to participate and wonder how I used to do some of these said things back then. Paintball is still fun and I can keep up, but I definitely feel it the next day.
I remember shortly after the death of digg rage comics being peak humor and suddenly an influx of kids not understanding how to make a rage comic killing that sub.
It reminds me of the day the internet died, when so many new AOL users overwhelmed the forums at the time and killed all the etiquette that had formed up to that point. Internet been stagnant for longer than it should have been. I’m excited to see where things go now.
For me, It’s the lack of advertising. Especially the constant guerilla advertising and flash marketing done in the larger subs.
At this point I’m just so burnt out on the constant advertisements. It’s literally shoved in your face at all times and not only does it make me actively avoid the products but its also exhausting.
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/S
Honestly though, if there was an anti-advertisement spray that worked I would buy it lol.
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1.5k upvotes, people fawning over the person, stupid gold and all the stupid badges attached to the post…. FFS.
Anti-advertisment, apply directly to the forehead.
foreheadeyes.
…“Barbie”, opening only in theaters July 21st.
It’s refreshing.
