Most of us just want to fit in, and believe what everybody believes.

Coming to your beliefs this way is not actually intelligent. We don’t do it consciously. It’s just tribalism or herding instinct or whatever.

So if everybody agrees with you then that’s a pretty good sign that you are wrong.

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    If I was to say “the sky is blue” and everyone agrees with me, it’s actually because the sky is fucking blue.

    I don’t know how you came to such a wildly bad conclusion. There are other caveats needed to make what you said even remotely accurate. Like if you’re a billionaire and everyone always agrees with you, you’re probably wrong most of the time.

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      Because this person got absolutely roasted in their previous post, and even commented this post’s title to another comment there.

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    Things I must be wrong about because everyone agrees:

    Flapping my arms won’t cause me to fly.

    I can’t breathe underwater.

    Washing hands prevents disease.

    Eating food gives us energy.

    Yesterday was Christmas.

    If only everyone was as smart as you. 🙄

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    Being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian doesn’t make one interesting

    Edit: I gotta look at usernames before I comment

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      A contrarian isn’t one who always objects — that’s a confirmist of a different sort. A contrarian reasons independently, from the ground up, and resists pressure to conform.

      • Naval Ravikant
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    Sometimes most people are right. Sometimes most people are wrong. Come to your own conclusions as independently as possible from what other people think. It’s just as much a fallacy to assume the majority of people are wrong as to assume they are right.

    And some things aren’t even objectively true or false, they are just personal preferences or morals.

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      But independent thinking contradicts my 1000000 years of genetically programmed tribal instinct. You’re asking a lot.

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    It depends vastly on the subject, audience and source of information.

    I’m not going to disagree with a room of experts aligned on a conclusion based on data and verified study. Actual knowledge is in fact knowledge and a contrarian opinion, no matter how passionately expressed, is not equivalent to it.

    Being contrarian solely to go against the popular position is laughably simplistic.

    Everyone knows this.

    (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

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      People who don’t understand science don’t get this. When science changes it doesn’t mean the previous ideas were “wrong” - it usually just means that the framework and the data it is built around was incomplete or imprecise. That’s the entire premise of empiricism, and why there are differences between how theory, fact and axiom are handled.

      Far too many people believe that the history of overturned consensus suggests that modern consensus is also “wrong” when it was the empiricist framework which discovered both “truths” in the first place.

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      Yes.

      But to elaborate my point.

      The path of conformity and the path of reason are utterly different things. Therefore they lead to utterly different ends. Therefore if you find yourself in agreement with everybody then in all probability you have arrived at that other end and you didn’t get there via reason.

      (Ok so I said it twice now.)

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        Not contradicting anything you said or trying to make an argument, just thought it would be a cool thing to share and let people learn about.

        But if you do want some kind of argument, then I would say that while you are not wrong here, conformity has basically nothing to do with drawing reasonable conclusions and that really isn’t it’s purpose. Conformity is almost more of a defense mechanism (which can go wrong rather easily, hence this discussion) meant to keep us comfortable and prevent accidentally painting a social target on our own backs. It’s when conformity is conflated with logical reasoning that we start to get problems.