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This was at a self-service kiosk, too, right?
That means the tip goes to the customer, right?
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30% is “soso” but a 100% is only “Thank You”? In this case the 100% should be “Walk over to the other side of the register so the boss can blow You”.
Avoid joints that’s “require” tipping.
Deny the parasite profit.
Back when 15% was considered standard I liked tipping closer to 30%, but as a direct result of the push to try to make 15% seem low I no longer tip more than 15%.
My tipping follows the inverse of how much I am paying for the product. If the product is well priced and the service was good I have been known to tip 100% for excellent service. Now that everything is nearly double the cost of what it used to be I am more inclined to tip 50 cents to a dollar max.
They should be paying exceptionally well for what they are charging, but we know that isn’t the case. I don’t have unlimited wealth to spend either, fuck me for being poor and wanting some comfort “restaurant” food occasionally.
The food prices went up 20% so my logic is if I continue to tip the same % the waiters should still make more money. Increasing the food prices and also doubling the tip is just double dipping. My work isn’t paying me 20% more every year so I can’t be paying for everyone’s inflation.
Exactly, and the only thing they have is increasing the guilt factor. But they’re gonna learn when put up against a cliff and a little guilt trip I’m just gonna take the guilt.
All you are doing is punishing some poor server who has no control of the price. The owner who is actually fucking both you and the staff over is unaffected.
Don’t pretend they have no control. They could band together and refuse to play by the restaurant’s rules. Things would change pretty quickly.
So could you and your coworkers, but restaurant owners are the sleazist, scummiest, and greediest business owners in your community guaranteed. A restaurant in my town had the entire staff fired and the restaurant closed for a month because the owner would rather miss out on a month of business than pay a fair wage.
I’m punishing them by giving them what was until 10 years ago considered an excellent and standard tip?
Not to mention that servers are, as a general group, extremely opposed to dismantling the tip system as a whole. My complaint wasn’t about raised food prices, which the owner would be in control of - it was about raised tipping percentage expectations. I refuse to contribute to the steadily rising expectation of how much a tip should be, and regret my past contributions to that trend.
Rent has gone up a lot more than 15% in the past decade. The whole system is rotten and needs to be abolished, but all the servers i know are absolutely struggling right now and depend on getting a 20% tip on each table. How would you feel if half your paychecks were randomly 25% less? Stop going to restaurants that expect a tip by all means, but if you are going somewhere that expects it, you should tip.
15 is the percent of the tip, not the percent increase in tip income over the last decade. If the tip percentage stays constant, then the tip amount rises in direct proportion to the food cost. The fair comparison is rent increase vs. restaurant food price increase. The data I found indicates rent’s gone up at an average of 4% per year in the last decade, and that restaurant food prices have risen by a similar amount - anywhere from 3-7% depending on the industry.
Everyone is struggling. It is not unique to servers. And I do tip - just a reasonable 15%. If a server is struggling to get by on 15% tips, they should harass their boss and their senator, not their customers who are likely struggling as well.
“100€, keep the change.”
I’m not even paying the bill at that point.
Custom 0%
It ain’t my job to pay your employees salaries
Maybe it’s your job to avoid patronizing places that don’t pay their employees enough though?
Certainly not lol, what a ridiculous thing to say
I absolutely will pick the no-tips place given a choice, but I take issue with that wording. Basically every business pays as little as possible, by design.
“As little as possible” and “not enough” are two different things.
I suppose, but it’s really hard to separate. You have to pick a cutoff, which in the face of a world full of intangible wealth and costs is hard, and then if you come out with a number that’s too high you basically have nowhere you can shop.
There’s select industries that are super shitty, and I avoid those, but paying minimum wage for unskilled labour is a normal industry. (And, ironically, a lot of the fair-ethical-organic type businesses are super shitty themselves, because everyone wants to get paid extra and some will do horrible things to make that happen)
You’re saying this like it’s necessary to eat in restaurants with waiters. It isn’t. It’s a luxury.
Wait, where are you? I thought I recognised you from .ca, but it sounds like you might be thinking of the US system where they can pay nothing except tips. In my province you earn at least minimum wage as a waiter, and tips.
If I were to just straight up refuse to eat from restaurants under any circumstance, I’d be heavily incurring those intangible costs I mentioned, because it’s an expected social thing. That being said, I might consider it if I was in the US, but I’m not.
Also, tips have expanded well beyond servers, but that’s kind of beside the point.
Given a choice? There’s always a choice. You’re just leaving yourself a convenient back door to not tip while benefitting from tipping culture.
No, it’s not, however as a near-minimum wage worker myself, it is also not my job to cover a massive corporation’s lack of proper budgeting…
If you keep patronizing such businesses, why would they ever do that? They know they don’t have to in order to get your money. And it is the same with your own near-minimum wage job. You are working against your own best interests. Nothing will change while people are willing to give their money to companies that don’t pay their workers a fair wage.
Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against tipping if the person did a good job, but a company trying to guilt trip me into giving them a mandatory tip? Nah, that’s bullshit, it’s essentially “Oh, we can’t pay our employees enough, would you mind helping 🥺”. Outta here with that.
Right,so don’t use those businesses. You give them no reason to do anything differently.
All you are doing is helping to maintain the status quo.
I would not, that’s… what I’m trying to imply here… Yeah, businesses who don’t pay their employees enough bad.
I think it is the case of “you think in the right direction, but you don’t do it all the way, so now I’m gonna attack you over this until you stop doing anything”.
Not paying tips is a good start.
Can you give an example of that ever working? Because boycotts sure as fuck work.
How? Those people just aren’t going to get the money. Its not like the company is going to pay them extra because you didnt tip. Theyve already decided that the wage will be low Your logic doesn’t really make sense
Rewarding the employer for underpaying the employees is not, in any way, the right direction, though? Not tipping is just telling the employees “I don’t care if you get paid, so long as I get what I want”
You don’t get it, I think? The point is to get the workers to quit or protest because they don’t get paid enough, so that the place can increase the prices instead so they can pay their workers. If the place is still providing a nice service or good food or whatever it may be, you don’t want it to go out of business. Just make a worker-positive change.
Most people won’t quit, especially in the US from what I know. If they are already underpaid, how can they quit? And if pretty much every place treats waiters the same, what choice do they have?
It takes everyone to fix these issues. It is not a one-sided job. Every time you give these establishments money, you help them.
And there is no shortage of replacement waiters out there for the ones who quit.
Custom: 0% HAHAFUCKYOU
Custom: -100%
Infinite money glitch
Be sure to make eye contact as you type in 0.00
I’ll tip them ¥0.50 if they started preaching communism and say “LONG LIVE CHAIRMAN XI”, out loud, in front of the FBI headquarter.
30%: underpaid
40%: immorally underpaid
50%; criminally underpaid
100%: Les Miserables
I know tipping culture is extreme, but I’ve never seen 100%. I don’t think this is real.
I have seen similar suggestion levels including 100% in Vegas, Seattle, and other large metro areas.
If I saw a 30% option described by the establishment as “soso”, I would strongly consider stepping away “to the bathroom” forever.
I can’t find the original image, it’s just been reshared dozens of times on Xitter, Threads, Facebook and Reddit, but nobody is adding context or naming and shaming.
So yeah, probably just ragebait.
Would you like a legit source? I found it in 10 seconds of googling, btw.
I reverse image searched on mobile to try find the origin / source of this specific image to see if it was legit.
I wasn’t excluding the possibility of some company in the world prompting for a 100% tip, hence why I didn’t spend 10 seconds googling for it.
Similar interface, different values. Not to say that the one in the article isn’t absolutely egregious as well though, so my point only really matters if you care about OP’s image specifically.
They both top out at 100%, which is what everybody in the thread is disputing for some reason.
Especially labelling 30% “soso” and 40% “ok”. Unless they are bussing my tables, they get 0%. Otherwise it’s 15-20.
Would you like a legit source? Why would you assume that just because you’ve never encountered something yourself it couldn’t possibly be real?
I’ve never seen 25% until 10 years ago
What… “I’ve never seen the least of those until a decade ago”. It’s such a weird comment, like if someone said they got their first EV and you reply with “I never had a vehicle at all until 25 years ago.” See how incredibly odd that is? It’s got major “I like turtles” feel, even though it’s on topic.
The moment they ask for a tip they are not getting anything nor a repeat customer.
Presenting the possibility to tip on the screen is ok, I think. The tone (and from my European perspective the percentages) is, what I find weird.
I agree, the %s are too high, and there should be a “no tip” option there (even though you should tip here especially full service but not counter service), but also the “30% soso?!” Even I’m not tipping this one.
We need to bring back the public stockades.
Nothing like a good pillory to brighten your day!
And they’re perfect for this kind of thing! What better way to punish rude tip demands? Despite how rude it is, you don’t want to throw someone in jail over this. A fine? You risk the fine being so low it’s just a cost of business or so high you just ruined some service worker’s life. This is exactly where the pillory shines!
Demand a tip like this? To the stockades with you! Spend an afternoon chained up by the sidewalk, while people throw tomatoes at you. No real harm done. Just public embarrassment.
I gu-ar-an-tea the server didn’t make up those tips, so we’re talking about the manager, or corporate flunky in the stocks, right?
This seems something done by the servers. The managers, let alone corporate, don’t care about the tip amounts. Why would corporate design a system to enrage customers, when corporate isn’t the one receiving the money?
it’s going to be corporate, In-store managers have practically no control. The person in charge of these practices is likely to be titled a regional director or similar, and even then they are going to be “translating” and implementing board/owner instructions.
Cool, do we make them wear their taylored suits while in the stocks? If so, I’m so in on this idea.
but of course. unless stripping them nude is an option.
This is clearly fake, right?
So, in the article, the tip amounts were 20%, 30%, 50%, and 100%. They also used capital letters correctly.
I’m not trying to say that a 100% tip isn’t crazy, but this photo seems suspicious without any branding, incorrect capitalization and a total of exactly $95.00. Hell, I can’t even be sure that this is an actual point of sale machine, it looks like it could just be a monitor.
Even if it is, at current rate, one day we’ll look back and go “remember when tipping was optional, and less than 100%, we were truly spoiled back then”
Dunno. I’ve seen this in the UK.
I thought y’all didn’t have a tipping culture?
It’s creeping in all over Europe with the card machines. Tipping requests are on by default.
We don’t, we will tip outstanding service for a meal say, usually just a few quid, but it’s slowly becoming more of a thing, like this at some busy bars in cities.
Nice corruption
