The thing that worries me is if they do manage to get through this without losing anything significant, it’s only going to give them confidence to go further. How long before old.reddit goes? NSFW content? Blocking users with adblockers?
Then the people who still use Reddit can leave or just suck it up.
I expect the people who actually gave a shit are long gone than already at that point, so the community can then shout into the void if they would disagree.
Nsfw got killed by that as well basically, moderating nsfw subs is one hell of a work, and they can’t use third party tools at all anymore because the api just doesn’t forward nsfw stuff anymore, all their bots will 100% go out and that will be the day reddit gets flooded with Child porn and billions of onlyfans links. You just cant moderate a sub without tools, and reddit itself offers absolutely nothing.
Not sure about the entirety of available options but one thing I think instances are able to do is block other instances… so I guess if an instance became flooded with illegal material, another instance could block it - though I’m not yet sure what that means exactly in this context.
Lemmy has no resistance whatsoever to such content except that while those instances can exist, other instances can defederate from them. Defederation by the larger lemmy instances puts up an effective wall so they’ll be more difficult to discover from within a smaller instance.
Thus, any instance can effectively “ban” any other instance that is okay to host whatever content they wish, while any other instance can continue to remain connectable. This makes it easier to get away from disgusting shit since you don’t need a team of site admins who pick and choose what’s advertiser friendly or not for you, but instead people who legitimately want the best for their communities.
Isn’t this what happened to raspberry.social when they started telling everyone to unfollow them if they don’t agree. They got defederated. ilIt’s not child porn bad but it’s a swift action if an instance don’t play nice.
Oh that was an interesting read! Thanks for the link! But yes, this is exactly the sort of behaviour I expect and envision for the future of the Fediverse.
The thing that worries me is if they do manage to get through this without losing anything significant, it’s only going to give them confidence to go further. How long before old.reddit goes? NSFW content? Blocking users with adblockers?
Then the people who still use Reddit can leave or just suck it up.
I expect the people who actually gave a shit are long gone than already at that point, so the community can then shout into the void if they would disagree.
Nsfw got killed by that as well basically, moderating nsfw subs is one hell of a work, and they can’t use third party tools at all anymore because the api just doesn’t forward nsfw stuff anymore, all their bots will 100% go out and that will be the day reddit gets flooded with Child porn and billions of onlyfans links. You just cant moderate a sub without tools, and reddit itself offers absolutely nothing.
Is Lemmy resistant to any of this, or is its future child porn etc.?
Not sure about the entirety of available options but one thing I think instances are able to do is block other instances… so I guess if an instance became flooded with illegal material, another instance could block it - though I’m not yet sure what that means exactly in this context.
Lemmy has no resistance whatsoever to such content except that while those instances can exist, other instances can defederate from them. Defederation by the larger lemmy instances puts up an effective wall so they’ll be more difficult to discover from within a smaller instance.
Thus, any instance can effectively “ban” any other instance that is okay to host whatever content they wish, while any other instance can continue to remain connectable. This makes it easier to get away from disgusting shit since you don’t need a team of site admins who pick and choose what’s advertiser friendly or not for you, but instead people who legitimately want the best for their communities.
Isn’t this what happened to raspberry.social when they started telling everyone to unfollow them if they don’t agree. They got defederated. ilIt’s not child porn bad but it’s a swift action if an instance don’t play nice.
Oh that was an interesting read! Thanks for the link! But yes, this is exactly the sort of behaviour I expect and envision for the future of the Fediverse.
It’s like fricking magic. Generating outrage doesn’t work. The same behaviour that would have gotten headlines elsewhere got them a timeout.
I hope for the sake of society that the Fediverse is the future of mainstream social media.
A instance that allows actual child porn would be blocked off completely and probably reported to the authoritys all around the world.