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  • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 年前

    The fact that the govt has the balls to tell me to figure out how much I owe them is hysterical. Especially when they supposedly know (at least roughly) how much I should owe

    • triptrapper@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 年前

      IRS: Guess how much you owe.

      Me: $20,000?

      IRS: Nope!

      Me: Okay how much do I owe?

      IRS: You have to guess!

    • M500@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      1 年前

      I think the irs is piloting its own tax filing software this year.

      I think it’s still in beta, but it’s a step in the right direction.

      • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 年前

        I was gonna say some snarky shit about govt software being ass but I think you’re right ultimately. It’s not perfect, it’ll probably suck, but it’s better than letting people like turbo tax profit off something we legally have to fucking do and is complicated for most people to do.

        There are lots of other free options to help file out there however, I will say that.

      • Altima NEO@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        1 年前

        Cant wait to try that. Real tired of the bullshit of dealing with tax prep software companies. Their bullshit, fake smiley happy cheery “were looking to do what we can to save you the most money”. My ass they do.

        • M500@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          1 年前

          Yeah, it’s so tiring figuring it all out. And I messaged an accountant that wanted like $700 to do my taxes.

          What the hell!? I’d rather just make a mistake and over pay too much.

      • tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.ukEnglish
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        1 年前

        Most people in the UK don’t think about tax, it just happens without their input.

        If you have a small business or something more complex there are forms, but they’re not that complex… you mostly just tick boxes.

        The US sounds like a dystopian nightmare the way they talk about tax.

    • no banana@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 年前

      Yeah in Sweden we just get the information and have to sign it or correct faults in their calculations (things they couldn’t have known etc). Takes 5 minutes for most people and can be done in the phone with digital identification.

      • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 年前

        UK ex-pat here. I was self employed. You typed in the numbers of what you earned, what you spent, hit send. That’s it. The American system is so fucked.

        • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 年前

          This is basically what we do also but we have a bunch of other fields and whatnot for other services and so on and so forth.

          It’s just more bs paperwork to trip up poor people on and let rich people navigate through.

    • Hikiru@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 年前

      Companies like TurboTax bribe politicians to not pass laws that would require you be told how much you owe

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 年前

      I think the idea is that if you do it and they do it, when they match, they can assume they are both right, and when they don’t, they can compare and update their side or suggest/demand correction on yours. And if things look fishy, have a closer look at everything with an audit.

      • Rolder@reddthat.comEnglish
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        1 年前

        I feel that taxes should just be automatic unless you do unusual things like own a personal business or trade a lot of stocks or some such. Doing taxes for those makes sense since you need to write off business expenses and similar

      • PeachMan@lemmy.oneEnglish
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        1 年前

        Okay, how bout they do the math, I check their work, and if I disagree I let them know? And what if that process didn’t involve a bunch of complicated bullshit rules, and what if I didn’t have to put money into garbage tax companies’ pockets?

        I have one source of income and I am not rich. I don’t have a trust, or investments, or multiple jobs. My taxes should be simple as hell, easy to file, and free.

    • r00ty@kbin.life
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      1 年前

      I think in most of Europe (speaking from UK here) if you have one job then it’s on the employer to sort your tax out. You get a form at the end of the year to add any other other gains (including benefit in kind etc). If you owe more they adjust your tax code next year to cover it. If they owe you they send a cheque, and then I have to remember how to deposit such ancient technology.

    • snootchiebootchies@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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      1 年前

      Every time I see this comment I wonder if that person has ever actually done taxes. Of course the IRS generally knows how much you owe, but we have so many freaking different types of tax exemptions and credits that you have to let them know if you qualify to get some of that money back. For example, how would they know if you had installed a solar panel on your house that year unless you tell them at tax time. But yes, our tax code is ridiculously complicated and should be simplified.