I have been on reddit for just about 12 years now. Something I’ve noticed over time is just how hateful the place has become. A complete outrage machine. Every single sub became filled with it. I’ve filtered so many subreddits over the last few years, it’s insane. I don’t know enough about this place to be sure, but I do hope it doesn’t become the same type of echo chamber of anger.

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    I don’t think the Chomsky sub going to shit matters much given the Epstein connections now tbh. Left needs to move on from him just as much as zizek

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      I think you focus too much on the messenger and not enough on the message, which is ironic that you complain about cult of personality. Manufactured Consent would be just as valuable even if Epstein write it himself.

      Have you read any works by either Zizek or Chomsky? I don’t ask this in a “gotcha” attempt. I’m genuinely curious if you have, and if yes what specifically do you take issue with? I’m a fan of both although Chomsky hates Zizek. I think Chomsky has done a massive public service cataloging and broadcasting US War crimes, while Zizek is a bit more theoretical

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        I think you focus too much on the messenger and not enough on the message

        Should the left say the same about Stalin?

        Serious question. I want to know if you apply this logic consistently or if you see an issue with it now.

        Have you read any works by either Zizek or Chomsky?

        Of course I have this is a strange question to be asking unless you think I’m a teenager new to the left or something, these people are very entry-level cringe-leftism 102 stuff, they were good gateways into various things for their time but nothing more radical because to be so would be to lose the platform and “prestige” they both covet provided to them by capitalists. Neither of them have made significant contributions to the left that were not made first by other people, Chomsky’s most known work Manufacturing Consent is just a rehash of Parenti’s work Inventing Reality, while Zizek on the other hand is focused on philosophy of ideology and media literacy rather than action.

        I think Chomsky has done a massive public service cataloging and broadcasting US War crimes, while Zizek is a bit more theoretical

        You have these backwards. Zizek is not theoretical, Zizek is philosophical. Theory can be applied as action, that is not what Zizek does.