I have played Eve Online so many hours, and it’s a bad game. Don’t do it. you will spend hundreds of hours dreaming about the cool thing you’ll do later, but for 99% of players the cool thing will never happen. You will be part of the one percent’s cool thing.

Do you have a similar game?

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    It makes me sad to say it now because I used to love it so much, but Destiny.

    It’s just a micro-transaction shadow of its former self now.

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      Definitely destiny, I realized I was paying an absurd amount of money for seasonal content just to play once a month with friends, the separate dungeon pass was the last straw, wish I had moved on sooner

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      I’ve lost interest in the game, but in terms of bang for your buck entertainment, I have no regrets for the money I’ve spent on Destiny. Even at 100 bucks a year for the most recent expansion and all the seasons, it still feels like a deal to me, but I’ve never spent a dime on the cosmetics and that may not be the case for others.

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    i used to play clash royale, it is a massive credit card grab and a mental health nightmare

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        Its a live service game, so basically you gotta keep playing it or you will miss out on the next great weapon or some other thing. Its a fun game but if you get sucked in its ggs. I know cuz i got 5k hours in almost 4 years lol. Its hella addictive

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          Yeah it’s a fun one lol. I haven’t opened it in like two weeks so I’m sure I’ve missed out already.

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            Yeah lmao you actually did. A new exotic quest dropped yesterday. Pretty good mission honestly, the jury is still out on the weapon but the quest was fun.

            The quest is gonna be around for a while so you dont need to rush to play it tbh

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    You can find a variety of plans, each at a price that is affordable, by going to https://boosthive.eu/w-classic . Boosthive is the best choice for any gamer who wants to improve their performance and is looking for an option. They have earned my confidence, and as a result, we will keep doing business together.

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    Rainbow six: siege. I played it pretty religiously and had a pretty good ranked k/d. At some point the magic wore off and playing with randoms is insufferable. Very toxic too

  • Temtem.

    Extremely predatory design that tries damn hard to force you into micro transactions. And once you do, you have to spend so many hours to get what you already payed for. On top of that, the endgame is almost a completely different game with a different target audience than the rest of it. I regret all the money and time I wasted on it. Had to hide it in my steam library to get myself to stop as well. That kind of predatory shit should be illegal imo.

    Stay away from that game, especially if you have any past issues with impulse, micro transactions, and/or addictive tendencies.

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      Bro go play Nexomon extinction. It’s a really good single player mon game. Best I’ve found. Really funny story, cool monsters, and SO many good quality of life changes pokemon should have implemented a decade ago.

      EDIT: Oh and NO microtransactions if you play on switch/PC. The microtransactions on mobile are pointless and make no sense, so don’t play on mobile.

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      Ah, oof… I just picked it up with the Humble Choice. Thanks for the heads up that it’s filled with microtransactions :(

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      I have owned temtem for a few years and I haven’t spent a dime beyond the initial purchase. I enjoy the more modern Pokemon type experience but I haven’t played in about a year due to work and other interests. I had no idea ait had become so transaction focused.

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        It hasn’t, it just has a cosmetic battle-pass now. They said it was going to have that back in the original Kickstarter.

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      Ooh thank you. It’s on Humble Choice but I’m prone to microtransaction addictions so I think I’ll skip this one.

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      I really wanted to get into MOBA games, the idea seem really cool. But every one I’ve tried the meta/community seem infuriating.

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        I play Blizzard’s MOBA, Heroes of the Storm, every now and then.

        Similar to most others, the community can be toxic as fuck, but the “vs AI” mode is fun enough to keep me coming back.

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          It’s so good. I tried it first and then tried LOL. I couldn’t do it because it was such a step back.

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        It’s just annoying how everything has to follow the “meta” and if you do dare to try something else and you don’t perform above expectations you’ll get shit on. I just want to play the game the way I enjoy it sometimes.

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      Yep, this is mine. And I have barely any time in compared to serious players. But when it was first becoming a thing I think I probably put in 50+ hours playing with my friends. As someone who primarily plays single player games this is a lot. Then I realized I hated every minute playing, and it was making me hate my own friends. It was actually stressful to play. I would be angry after ever play session. So I quit.

      Fuck League of Legends. It’s shit and no one will convince me otherwise.

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        it was making me hate my own friends

        Yep. Other games it’s easy to brush off a mistake and laugh about it. Just something about this one (probably the massive time investment and amount of attention required for every game) had us seething at each other… I played for 10 years and probably played less in those 10 years than most of my friends I played with did in their first 2… Lol. I liked team fight tactics, but blizzard did it better in my opinion. And they removed Dominion. Was the only game type that was worth playing. >.>

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      I hate this game but I love Bard. He’s the only fun thing in the game. ARAM too.

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    Looking at my Steam, the game with the highest number of hours played, of which I would currently say unambiguously that you should avoid it, looks to be War Thunder. Among the reasons I’d tell you to stay away from it:

    • It’s a grindfest starting very early on.
    • It’s far too easy to lose as a result of what can reasonably be called bad luck.
    • Unless you specialise, or throw real money at it, the fun, high-tech stuff is probably thousands of hours into the future.
    • There’s content gated behind “if you were not around when this was regular stuff, you will never get it”
    • It calls itself an MMO, while there’s nothing MMO about it. It’s all instanced battles, with little to no world continuity as you progress.
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    SWTOR

    I’ve put at least 2000 hours into this game and completed all the endgame PvE content including an NA first/world second raid achievement and made a lot of friends in the game.

    It’s still a shit game with barely any new content and now Bioware has pawned off the game to some company called Broadsword that looks like it specializes in taking over dead MMORPGs

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      I remember having a ton of fun leveling up my first toon. It was a sith juggernaut I think? Had a cool thing where you could recruit a jedi woman to join you either by being so evil you corrupt her, or so good she decides she’d rather be with a good guy working in an openly evil society than a villain in one that always espoused goodness. I thought that was super cool.

      End game was awful, then the next expansion they utterly broke the companion system which was my favorite thing about the game.

      Sooo… yeah.

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      I mean the writing was on the wall like a month after launch. How did you not quit back then?

      It was fun to dominate Hutball for like 2 weeks and… that was basically it…

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        I actually stopped playing a couple months after launch and only played it sporadically every now and then to get a few levels. It took from release to 2014 for me to actually get one max level character lol

        After I got to level cap I dipped my toes into raiding and cleared what endgame content I could but stopped playing again in 4.0 when they didn’t release any new raids for the expansion. Then any time they release a new raid I’d pick the game back up again and hit up my old guildies to rejoin me

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      I enjoyed that game as a mostly solo casual from launch up until about KotFE/KotET. When they condensed stats and made a bunch of class changes that kind of erased what made classes unique I never had as much fun. After that I would pop in every few months, run through a class story again and then get bored.

      I gave up on it fully when I realized the 10th anniversary stuff they hyped up just never really came to be.

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    That is an extremely good description of the reality of Eve. For me this would be Arma 3. Such extraordinary potential but for every 15 hours you fiddle, you get 6 minutes of peak gaming. Absolutely not worth it.

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      I’ve tried to get into Arma 3 many times over the years. But it’s just way too much for me. I like some MilSim, but Arma is so complicated and just not worth it to me. To make it worse, everybody that I’ve linked up with to learn how to play with always says that the base game sucks and you have to install 15+ mods just to start having fun.

      Sorry, but if a base game isn’t worth playing unless you spend 2-3 hours fighting to get 15+ mods all working together just to then get barely 40 FPS, spend another hour planning the mission, and then trying to remember the dozens of hotkeys for the 10 unique ways you can crouch next to a wall, I’m just not interested and it probably isn’t a very good game.

      Most people recommend playing Minecraft with like 50 mods, but at least Minecraft is a good fully playable game in vanilla mode…

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      And of course our brains will say “Well if you just get better at the game, you will get more of the peak gaming!” But no, no we won’t. The game was not made for that.

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    Mordhau. Terrible toxic community, developers that cater only to the super hard core players. Content droughts… Yet I somehow stuck 500+ hours on it. Playing the lute was nice though.

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    I played a shit ton of WoW when I was younger. It stopped being fun a long time ago. Mostly it was only fun with friends.

    D3 also sucks. Played a lot of that at launch, and also when the expansion came out (can’t remember the name). D2 was always way better, and now with D2R, I don’t think I’ll ever need to buy another game in my life.

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      Had to scroll way too far to find WoW. I’m still actively raiding wotlk classic with my small guild, but blizzard seems to have a policy of,

      • Step 1: determine what should be done
      • Step 2: do the opposite

      For everything. Server population management. Bots. Moderation. Customer support. It’s incredible how incompetent they are. Any patch now they’ll add RDF and I’ll unsub one last time and be done for ever. Cannot NOT recommend it enough.

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        Yeah. I feel like blizzard has always been that way. How long have you been playing WoW? I feel like it was a product of it’s time. I quit before WoW classic got started, but I started playing the original about 2 months after launch. It was incredibly fun back then, but I wasted way too much of my life on it.

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          It felt like vanilla wow was inherently more interesting than retail. Classic felt dated, but it also felt more interesting than modern MMOs, because the game wasn’t afraid of player interaction.

          I think today companies have found that the most profitable way to run an MMO is to prevent any player from being inconvenienced, especially by another player. So over time they got rid of mage portals, and quests that required you to have a player craft something, and gave everyone the ability to self heal and fight multiple mobs at once. And of course, RDF. Slowly WoW became a single player game, and any dependency on another player was seen as an outlier experience that provoked a toxic player response.

          I still wish there was a non-MMO game that replicated the wow raiding experience, but afaik nothing like it exists. Which is part of why I still play wrath classic.

          But classic wow as an MMO is functionally dead.

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          It felt like vanilla wow was inherently more interesting than retail. Classic felt dated, but it also felt more interesting than modern MMOs, because the game wasn’t afraid of player interaction.

          I think today companies have found that the most profitable way to run an MMO is to prevent any player from being inconvenienced, especially by another player. So over time they got rid of mage portals, and quests that required you to have a player craft something, and gave everyone the ability to self heal and fight multiple mobs at once. And of course, RDF. Slowly WoW became a single player game, and any dependency on another player was seen as an outlier experience that provoked a toxic player response.

          I still wish there was a non-MMO game that replicated the wow raiding experience, but afaik nothing like it exists. Which is part of why I still play wrath classic.

          But classic wow as an MMO is functionally dead.

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      Hard agree with you that D2 was better than D3 in every way. I also bought D2r and played it a bit at launch.

      Have you played any D4 yet? As someone who never loved D3 I will say that D4 has been refreshing. I have some low level gripes with it, but overall I am really enjoying it.

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        I haven’t played D4 yet, no. I rarely play games anymore. Not like I used to. And I’m too nostalgic for D2.

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          Makes sense, harder to do as you get older. If you catch it on a sale though and you’re curious I think it scratches the itch unlike D3.

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    My dumbass ex-brother-in-law is deep in the process of losing his wife and two kids largely because of his EVE Online addiction.

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      I can see it, I played a lot, but I never lost my job over it.

      But there were folks that were on no matter what, and as time has gone on the micro transactions have only gotten worse and more aggressive. So it’s easy to imagine that those folks who were on 24/7 were burning whatever money they had on the micro transactions.

      The high of the really good things happening felt SOO good. Like pulling off the perfect heist/ambush felt so good it pulled you through another 50 hours of grinding on the amount of adrenaline and endorphins you would get after that 5 minute victory.

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        I’ve only ever been a miner, and not a moon miner, but like the kind who goes to .4sec and just tries finding the most valuable ore… I know there is a huge pvp and pve scene, but like, where can I find it? I’ve also never been a multi boxer, so I have one character who over the course of 7+ years has trained every possible thing, and i have no idea what to do with that, besides maybe joining for a week and strip mining before gettin burnt out

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          How you were unable to find those is shocking to me, as they are everywhere. But I’m not going to tell anyone how to better find the good bits of eve.

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            Fair enough, that said, I was never much a social bug. Only ever joined a corp because someone would find me strip mining, and offer to help me out via a corp, and try to get me to moon mine with them.

            I definitely had my fun, but similar to others even just moon mining cut deep into time I should have spent with my family.

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      I feel like that game isn’t good enough to warrant that sort of sacrifice. It’s gotta be more than just his addiction to tanking a fake economy…

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    Melee: It’s an infinite timesuck and your poor hands will hate you!

    It’s actually a wonderful game and a technological marvel for 2001.